User talk:Elio Ciralli

PIANC
Hello Elio, thank you for your edits! For the moment I've reverted the major change to the World Association for Waterborne Transport Infrastructure article, as the text appears to have been copied directly from another website (www.pianc.org) which is not allowed, per WP:COPYVIO. I see that at an earlier time you prepared a large amount of content at User:Elio Ciralli/sandbox. Was this from-scratch work, I notice you included a number of references at User:Elio Ciralli/sandbox, but that strangely these were not then used in the changes made earlier today. I'd be happy to work with you on creating original-from scratch text suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia, as you clearly appear to have access to a number of sources. Once again, thank you for getting involved with Wikipedia. —Sladen (talk) 12:17, 8 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you (one year later) for making a number of additional edits, and contributing several supporting images to the Public Domain. Would you be able to explain why you tagged the article with, while at the same time deleting the previous references (I've restored this referenced material now).  —Sladen (talk) 18:43, 3 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Dear Sladen,
 * before all thank you very much for having cooperated in starting and taking care of the wiki page of PIANC.
 * Actually in PIANC I am a member of the board and this was a really good initiative. On behalf of PIANC, I am grateful.
 * May I ask you the courtesy to correct the PIANC International Commissions names in their real ones?
 * Furthermore: despite the fact that the Boat Classification references are correct and useful (in the Recreational Navigation Commission paragraph), leaving them there creates a difference of given details between the Commissions activities descriptions. This could annoy the Commissions members.
 * If it would be possible in future, the Commissions will enlarge and complete the references (really a huge amount of publications is produced by PIANC and a lot refer to these).
 * I am curious and I would be pleased to know how you know PIANC.
 * Thank you again.
 * Elio Ciralli — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elio Ciralli (talk • contribs) 10:48, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Elio Ciralli — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elio Ciralli (talk • contribs) 10:48, 4 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Greeting Elio Ciralli, to respond to your last question first: I encountered PIANC because of researching for the Classification of European Inland Waterways article, and in particular the smaller RA–RD dimensions initiated by PIANC. The CEMT wikilinks and the citations from the United Natations are the only information that (at the moment) makes the PIANC article demonstrably notable.  Arguably the entire sections Awards and individual Commissions within PIANC would be deleted, because they are not cited, verified, or referenced via a third-parties (publications not-connected with PIANC).  Annoyance should not come into it; the coverage on Wikipedia should reflect the academic coverage in the real world.
 * Regarding renaming, and your suggestion to rename the article to be PIANC, The World Association for Waterborne Transport Infrastructure. This would be like creating an article called EC, The Elio Ciralli; it would be inappropriate.  There are two realistic names for the article per Wikipedia's naming Guidelines, these are: World Association for Waterborne Transport InfrastructurePIANC
 * When linking-in from other articles, one is likely to write "Such-and-such was designed by the World Association for Waterborne Transport Infrastructure (PIANC)." The present name works correctly in this natural prose usage; having the acronym and the full name linked would not be appropriate.  Additionally there are policies about this per WP:NAMINGCRITERIA.  Definite articles ("The") are not used at the beginning of an article name, per WP:DEFINITE; and acronyms should not be used, per WP:ACRONYMTITLE.  Based on the Wikipedia guidelines, the present name would appear to be the correct and accurate one.
 * For citations, there may well be a large number of documents produced by PIANC itself; but these do not count. It is third-party references that matter, for example, the UN documents and news reports such as .  If you can locate additional third-party information, we can include that.  —Sladen (talk) 13:03, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of AIOM
Hello Elio Ciralli,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged AIOM for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. TRL (talk) 02:12, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Ways to improve AIOM Associazione di Ingegneria OffShore e Marina
Hi, I'm ScitDei. Elio Ciralli, thanks for creating AIOM Associazione di Ingegneria OffShore e Marina!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Hi, Please add few more references to validate your text. Also Put some categories like "Italian associations" etc.

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse. ScitDei talk 09:58, 19 October 2013 (UTC)