User talk:Elitemagroup

needed?
The article needer was deleted because it was essentially a dictionary definition and not an encyclopedia article. Also it failed to state the context - martial arts - in the first sentence nor did it give any references to demonstrate how widely the term is used in this context. -- RHaworth 14:55, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Kool
I will change that when I get to my business. I will cover all the areas you posted about and make it so that it will not be deleted. It seems to me that it wasn't a jumble of words that is required for it to be deleted by your own rulings. No big deal, I have a lot of time on my hands. This term is in use by more than 100 Dojo's so I will push to allow it to stay. There is a lot of BS out there, it seems that this article that has stayed on here for way over a month, has found an enemy for some reason. I believe it would be better served to actually delete the articles that are truly fitting the definition.

please dont make unneeded articles
please do not make ant articles that are dictionary definitions. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a dictionary.

You can leave me a message at my talk page.

WmCliff 05:36, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I understand that it is a term in martial arts, but it is written as a dictionary definition. if you change it to an encyclopadaeic entry, im sure it will be welcomed. thank you.

please sign you name with four tildes on disscussion/talk pagesWmCliff 05:52, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

And please read the rules for inclusion. It is not I who is abusing the site. You were politely asked several times not to post an unsourced dictionary definition and you chose to ignore those requests. - Lucky 6.9 06:03, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

fixing it
Yes, I was in the process of fixing it. A little patience is sometimes a good thing. Please unblock it now so I can post it as a correct article.

Please do not try and avoid the block by varying the title. This is viewed as vandalism. Please stop. - Lucky 6.9 06:19, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually, this isn't a democracy. There really is no freedom of speech here. Tell you what: I'll look at the article, clean it up and repost it. I'll leave it up to you to provide the notability. - Lucky 6.9 06:24, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

OK, you're up. I've hung an "under construction" tag on the content at Karate needer and I'll leave word on the talk page to alert other users that it's being worked on. - Lucky 6.9 06:26, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I just restored it. Which is the proper term?  One can be made into a redirect to the other if necessary. - Lucky 6.9 06:27, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Proper term
I would say "needer" would be the proper term as it is used by a lot of other Martial Arts groups now so there would be Aikido needers, Kung Fu needers and so on. If you wish, delete Karate Needer and just leave needer. Thank you for your post backElitemagroup 06:33, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

i am sorry that Needer was deleted
i am sorry that your page was deleted, i did not do the stated action. perhaps you could start the page under a new title such as Needer (Martial Arts). as long as you write in an encyclopadaeic way, i am sure it will not be deleted.

WmCliff 17:44, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Karate Needer
I would make your case on the articles deletion page. I did help you fix it up but even so I just don't see the term as relevant to wikipedia for the reasons being given.Peter Rehse 08:52, 11 December 2006 (UTC)