User talk:Elizabethc tva/Tva architects

Move?

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: speedy close. According to the instructions Requested moves a requested move is not the appropriate way to move a page from user space. Instead {{subst:AFC submission/submit}} should be added to the top of the article. Have done this for you. Dpmuk (talk) 20:36, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

User:Elizabethc tva/Tva architects → TVA Architects —
 * New page created by new user User:elizabethc_tva 19:55, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Not yet - this will be quickly tagged for deletion if it is moved to mainspace without citing reliable sources to demonstrate notability. Also, based on the username, creator has a conflict of interest. – ukexpat (talk) 20:14, 7 January 2011 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

suggestions
I noticed this article after investigating your change at Fox Tower.

There are several methods to bring this proposed article up to Wikipedia standards.

One way would be to take an hour or two to read the Five Pillars, the basis of Wikipedia policies, and all the top level articles it links to. Another would be to review the structure—and especially the tone—of these top-rated articles—featured articles—for great models of corporate articles: Yet another way would be to solicit input and help from WikiProject Oregon, a loose collection of individuals (which includes myself) who focus on Oregon-related articles. (WP:ORE is among the most organized, productive, and prolific WikiGroups.) —EncMstr (talk) 21:36, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * BAE Systems
 * Norwich Market
 * Oliver Typewriter Company


 * Maybe I am misunderstanding your points.


 * On the conflict of interest, I could've used my personal address to configure this page but that would be dishonest. Is it forbidden for someone to write about a company they currently work for? Are you saying the rules are setup for us to do nothing while several Wiki pages have dead links referencing our company?


 * On meeting Wikipedia standards, I read as much as I could in a day and tried to follow protocol. Nothing on the page I wrote is false or self-promoting.


 * On the "great models," your references are for companies that are centuries old, multi-national corporations (one started out as Marconi!). I cite these published pages as my reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olson_Kundig_Architects, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellerbe_Becket, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZGF_Architects_LLP, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boora_Architects, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MulvannyG2_Architecture — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elizabethc tva (talk • contribs) 01:20, 8 January 2011 (UTC)


 * It doesn't matter what your username is (provided it follows the guidelines). We are very experienced at spotting conflict of interest edits.


 * While it is not forbidden to work on your own company's article (or competitors, etc.), it is not a great idea since it is unlikely that you can be impartial. First is the bias.  Second is not perceiving the company and maybe the industry in a general context.  Third is that you would tend to benefit (financially and/or careerwise) if your company receives increased visibility.  If Wikipedia accepted and published material like Portland Business Journal does, I would not not work on it.


 * The great models are the few FA-level articles there are about corporations. I intended to highlight that they don't say Oliver Typewriter is the best, most outstanding company in the world.  The lead is quite neutral.  Also, they are a great source of ideas for what to write about a company.  It doesn't matter if they are hundreds of years old or not:  An encyclopedia article is timeless when well written.


 * Once you've finished making the current round of edits, I'll take a look and comment. I don't immediately see why the various citations you list (above) are mentioned.  —EncMstr (talk) 01:52, 8 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I mentioned the other architecture firms' Wiki pages as templates we used to try to match style and content, apparently with not much success. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.103.224.74 (talk) 02:04, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * "We used"? This is looking more and more like a concerted effort by the company to promote itself -- please note that sharing of accounts is not permitted. – ukexpat (talk) 05:02, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * *chuckle* I seriously doubt anyone at the company cares whether there's a Wikipedia page about their company. If you read the actual page I wrote, they've been doing fine for 25 years without it. At any rate, there is nothing self-promoting on the page. I merely wanted to provide a reference point for the various places "TVA Architects" appears on existing Wikipedia pages. The ability to embed a link to other information pages is what makes wikipedia work as well as it does, but I guess people can continue to just Google "tva architects" without a link to another wiki page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by elizabethc_tva 23:51, 8 January 2011 (UTC) 76.115.40.38 (talk) 23:48, 8 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Now that the article has been moved, can anyone guide me in finding instructions on the way to prevent my user page from showing up as the top result in a Google search for "TVA Architects?" May I use the Redirect template? Should I add the db-userreq template? 70.103.224.74 (talk) 20:33, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * There is nothing to do. Google will quickly prefer using the new article.  If you want, you can help train it by selecting the main space search hit and don't choose the non-main space hits.  —EncMstr (talk) 20:52, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * There is nothing to do. Google will quickly prefer using the new article.  If you want, you can help train it by selecting the main space search hit and don't choose the non-main space hits.  —EncMstr (talk) 20:52, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I see that it is already the second hit for "TVA Architects wikipedia". —EncMstr (talk) 20:53, 12 January 2011 (UTC)