User talk:EllenHewitt458

Conflict of interest and promotional editing
Hello, Roslyn Oxley. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


 * avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, company, organization or competitors;
 * propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (see the request edit template);
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In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Also please note that editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Melcous (talk) 22:46, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Daniel Boyd (artist) (November 2)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Yanjipy was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


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– Yanjipy (talk) 02:14, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Editing as part of your employment/business
Hello Roslyn Oxley. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, and that you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially egregious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to Black hat SEO.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists, and if it does not, from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Roslyn Oxley. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, please do not edit further until you answer this message. Melcous (talk) 07:50, 3 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi Melcous,

Thank you for making this note. Roslyn Oxley is the director of Roslyn Oxley9 Gallery. The gallery is not paid to make Wikipedia articles. No employee is directly paid to edit or make wiki articles. Nor is Roslyn. No income is made from doing so. We would like to make articles about the artists we represent, who are globally recognized and considered leaders of contemporary art, in a neutral manner. We would also like to update and improve existing articles on these artists as we are a primary source of accurate information regarding their careers. We do not wish to use Wikipedia as a marketing tool. We simply want to improve available knowledge about these important artists. Roslyn does not have an employer. She is not a client of anyone. She is not creating articles for any client in particular. More than one person at the gallery might work on an article. Thus it is difficult to use the template you describe above...Perhaps you could advise further? We will certainly take your advice and cease creating articles directly and instead attempt using the proposing articles process in the future. Thank you again. Roslyn Oxley (talk) 06:44, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your reply. As the director the gallery you have a clear conflict of interest regarding that article and any articles about any of the artists you represent, as so you must abide by the relevant guidelines, which includes not editing these articles directly but rather proposing changes as you have said you will do, thank you. The paid question I am not certain about here. While the artists may not be directly paying you to edit wikipedia for them, if you are receiving any kind of compensation (financial or otherwise) for representing them, then I would think you might still be seen as a paid editor. and  are two editors who do a lot of work here on wikipedia regarding conflicts of interest and paid editing and so might be able to advise more specifically? Thanks, Melcous (talk) 06:54, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pinging me. Whether this is strictly "paid editing" or not, is kind of an angels-dancing-on-the-head-of-a-pin thing.   (Most experienced editors would say that if PR is part of someone's work and they come here to do PR that it is what we call "paid editing", but again it is not super-important.)
 * Two things are absolutely important:
 * 1) this is very obviously a corporate account (it is the name of the gallery, and the person using it is saying "we"). This is not acceptable in WP per WP:CORPNAME. An account here is for a specific person and must be used that way. (I will open a new section on this).  The person using this account should do nothing further until this is addressed.
 * 2) the conflict of interest needs to be a) disclosed appropriately and b) edits should be put through prior review. This is our standard conflict of interest management process. I will be happy to help the person using this account get oriented to the process, once 1) is taken care of... Jytdog (talk) 16:40, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Daniel Boyd (artist) (November 4)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Frayae was:

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&mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 16:06, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

Corporate account, impersonation, group use
This is account's name and its use violate three parts of the WP:USERNAME policy, and must be fixed right away, before further editing is done.

The name of the account is the name of real person, and is apparently being used by employees of the person instead of only by the actual person, who is referred to in the third person above. This violates WP:IMPERSONATE.

In addition, the name of the account is the name of the real person's eponymous business, and accounts cannot have the name of the business. This violates WP:CORPNAME.

Finally, the person using it is using the first-person plural, implying it is being used as a group account, and this is not OK per WP:ISU. Accounts need to be used by one person only. If multiple people from the gallery have been using it, each one needs to get their own account (and will also need to follow the COI management process)

Please see the notice below, and change the name of this account so that it signifies one person working for the gallery.

Welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, "Roslyn Oxley", may not comply with our username policy. Please note that you may not use a username that represents the name of a company, group, organization, product, or website. Examples of usernames that are not allowed include "XYZ Company", "MyWidgetsUSA.com", and "Foobar Museum of Art". However, you are permitted to use a username that contains such a name if it identifies you individually, such as "Sara Smith at XYZ Company", "Mark at WidgetsUSA", or "FoobarFan87".

Please also note that Wikipedia does not allow accounts to be shared by multiple people, and that you may not advocate for or promote any company, group, organization, product, or website, regardless of your username. Please also read our paid editing policy and our conflict of interest guideline. If you are a single individual and are willing to contribute to Wikipedia in an unbiased manner, please request a change of username, by completing this form, choosing a username that complies with our username policy. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. Thank you. Jytdog (talk) 16:44, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Step 1
OK, thanks for going through the rename process. You disclosed above that you work for the Roslyn Oxley9 Gallery, and I have added the disclosure at Draft talk:Daniel Boyd (artist) and Draft talk:Sarah Contos (artist).

To finish the disclosure piece, would you please add to your userpage (which is User:EllenHewitt458 - a redlink, because you haven't written anything there yet). Just something simple like: "I work for Roslyn Oxley9 Gallery and have a conflict of interest with regard to that organization, artists it supports, and related topics" would be fine. If you want to add anything else there that is relevant to what you want to do in WP feel free to add it, but please don't add anything promotional about the gallery or yourself (see WP:USERPAGE for guidance if you like).

Once you disclose on your user page, the disclosure piece of this will be done, and we can move on to the second step... Jytdog (talk) 04:42, 17 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Great. Waiting for step 2, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EllenHewitt458 (talk • contribs) 04:59, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Step 1.5 - indenting and signing
Thanks for replying above, and sorry that I missed your post. This is a quick 1.5 step, about the logistics of discussing things on Talk pages, which are essential for everything that happens here. In Talk page discussions, we "thread" comments by indenting (see WP:THREAD) - when you reply to someone, you put a colon in front of your comment, which the Wikipedia software will render into an indent when you save your edit; if the other person has indented once, then you indent twice by putting two colons in front of your comment, which the WP software converts into two indents, and so on, and when that gets ridiculous you reset back to the margin (or "outdent") by putting this in front of your comment. Threading/indenting also allows you to make it clear if you are also responding to something that someone else responded to if there are more than two people in the discussion; in that case you would indent the same amount as the person just above you in the thread. I hope that all makes sense.

Also, at the end of the comment, please "sign" by typing exactly four (not 3 or 5) tildas "~" which the WP software converts into a date stamp and links to your talk and user pages when you save your edit.

Threading and signing, are how we know who said what to whom and when.

Please be aware that threading and signing are fundamental etiquette here, as basic as "please" and "thank you", and continually failing to thread and sign communicates rudeness, and eventually people may start to ignore you (see here).

I know this is unwieldy, but this is the software environment we have to work on. Will open a new section for the real step 2. Jytdog (talk) 07:06, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Step 2
OK, so thanks for making the disclosure. So you have a COI for the gallery and the artists it represents, as we define "conflict of interest" in Wikipedia.

As I noted above, there are two pieces to COI management in WP. The first is disclosure. The second is a form of peer review. This piece may seem a bit strange to you at first, but if you think about it, it will make sense. In Wikipedia, editors can immediately publish their work, with no intervening publisher or standard peer review -- you can just create an article, click save, and voilà there is a new article, and you can go into any article, make changes, click save, and done. No intermediary - no publisher, no "editors" as that term is used in the real world. So the bias that conflicted editors tend to have, can go right into the article. Conflicted editors are also really driven to try to make the article fit with their external interest. If they edit directly, this often leads to big battles with other editors.

What we ask of editors who have a COI or who are paid, and want to work on articles where their COI is relevant, is:
 * a) if you want to create an article relevant to a COI you have, create the article as a draft through the WP:AFC process, disclose your COI on the Talk page with the Template:Connected contributor (paid) tag, and then submit the draft article for review (the AfC process sets up a nice big button for you to click when it is ready) so it can be reviewed before it publishes. This is all underway with two drafts you are working on, which is great. When you get feedback, please listen to it and try to follow it. If you don't understand the feedback, please ask!  People are happy to help if you ask and put the work in to try to understand the answer.
 * b) And if you want to change content in any existing article on a topic where you have a COI, we ask you to
 * (i) disclose at the Talk page of the article with the Template:Connected contributor (paid) tag, putting it at the bottom of the beige box at the top of the page; and
 * (ii) propose content on the Talk page for others to review and implement before it goes live, instead of doing it directly yourself. Just open a new section on the talk page, put the proposed content there formatted just as you would if you were adding it directly to the article, and just below the header (at the top of the editing window) place the  tag to flag it for other editors to review.  In general it should be relatively short so that it is not too much review at once.  Sometimes editors propose complete rewrites, providing a link to their sandbox for example.  This is OK to do but please be aware that it is lot more for volunteers to process and will probably take longer.

By following those "peer review" processes, editors with a COI can contribute where they have a COI, and the integrity of WP can be protected. We get some great contributions that way, when conflicted editors take the time to understand what kinds of proposals are OK under the content policies. (There are good faith paid editors here, who have signed and follow the Statement on Wikipedia from participating communications firms, and there are "black hat" paid editors here who lie about what they do and really harm Wikipedia).

But understanding the mission, and the policies and guidelines through which we realize the mission, is very important! There are a whole slew of policies and guidelines that govern content and behavior here in Wikipedia. Please see User:Jytdog/How for an overview of what Wikipedia is and is not (we are not a directory or a place to promote anything), and for an overview of the content and behavior policies and guidelines. Learning and following these is very important, and takes time. Please be aware that you have created a Wikipedia account, and this makes you a Wikipedian - you are obligated to pursue Wikipedia's mission first and foremost when you work here, and you are obligated to edit according to the policies and guidelines. Editing Wikipedia is a privilege that is freely offered to all, but the community restricts or completely takes that privilege away from people who will not edit and behave as Wikipedians.

I hope that makes sense to you.

Will you please agree to learn and follow the content and behavioral policies and guidelines, and to follow the peer review processes going forward when you want to work on any article where your COI is relevant? Do let me know, and if anything above doesn't make sense I would be happy to discuss. Please do read User:Jytdog/How - it also has a section on writing a new article, which I think you will find helpful. Best regards Jytdog (talk) 07:10, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Copyright problem: Draft:Sarah Contos (artist)
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Thank you, and please feel welcome to continue contributing to Wikipedia. Happy editing! Dial911 (talk) 01:38, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Sarah Contos (artist) (November 28)
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Dial911 (talk) 01:33, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

Your editing
As you have acknowledged you have a conflict of interest and that you work for the gallery whose article you have been editing, you are requested again not to directly edit the article, but rather to propose any changes on the talk page so they can be reviewed by other editors. You can most easily do this using the Template:Request edit. Thank you Melcous (talk) 08:09, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

User:EllenHewitt458/sandbox


Hello, EllenHewitt458. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, User:EllenHewitt458/sandbox.

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 01:49, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Sarah Contos (artist)


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In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the, , or  code.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! - Rich T&#124;C&#124;E-Mail 19:50, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Daniel Boyd (artist) concern
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Your draft article, Draft:Daniel Boyd (artist)


Hello, EllenHewitt458. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Daniel Boyd".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. kingboyk (talk) 18:40, 6 February 2020 (UTC)