User talk:Ellen Shane

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Speedy deletion nomination of Dean Hale
A tag has been placed on Dean Hale requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you.  ttonyb (talk) 00:55, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

November 2009
Please stop. If you continue to add promotional material to Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  01:27, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * In his spare time, Hale is an avid family man ... Since making Tampa his permanent home, Hale has become very involved with his community and charitable organizations. ... He just filed and is already expected to beat the incumbent. ... He is a rising star on the political scene and there will be a lot more articles about him in the future. ... He is very well known in Tampa and people should have a chance to know a little about this guy. These do not read like the work of somebody trying to create an encyclopedic article, but rather like the words of somebody trying to get publicity for a candidate for a local office. Please read our guidelines for biographical articles. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  15:45, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Dean Hale
A tag has been placed on Dean Hale requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. ArcAngel (talk) 05:00, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Your recent edits
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Explanation
Hi Ellen. Welcome to Wikipedia. I understand you may be frustrated about the article you created getting deleted. Local officials and candidates for office are rarely included here. There is also an antagonism to articles that seem to be advertorial or promotional. If you have any questions or I can be of any assistance please let me know. The policy page explaining the community's rules in general is WP:notability, and there is also a policy on conflicts of interest at wp:COI. Take care and happy holidays. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:22, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Dean Hale - second opinion
Hi, your article was deleted quite properly because it did not establish notability within our guidelines. Candidates running for public office are generally not regarded as notable unless and until they succeed. In addition, the article was written in too informal a tone for an encyclopedia and much of it (Golf Tournament President?) was apparently irrelevant. Your comments to OrangeMike came close to breaching our policy of no legal threats, but did not, in my view, cross that line; I merely mention that so you may be aware of the serious consequences here of making such threats. Thank you. Rodhull andemu  18:25, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Suggestion
Edits like this one aren't going to help you. I understand you're frustrated, but please try and focus on the wikipedia policies that editors are trying to discuss with you. I'll try and help if I can, although from what I've seen, the original article as written didn't firmly establish notability, and was certainly written in a non-encyclopedic tone. That said, if you still want to try and get the article published, probably the best way to handle it would be to write the article in your user space (as you did before), and ask for comments on it before publishing it. Good luck! Dayewalker (talk) 18:50, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

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