User talk:Elockid/Archive 1

Welcome
Hi, Elockid. This is NOT some automated message...it's from a real person. You can talk to me right now. Welcome to Wikipedia! I noticed you've just joined, and wanted to give you a few tips to get you started. If you have any questions, please talk to us. The tips below should help you to get started. Best of luck!  Chzz  ►  00:48, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Tornado warning
Thanks for doing the revert - my system (for some reason) refused to do it, saying I had a banned link that kicked in the filter... Might be down to the JavaScript I installed earlier. Who knows. Thanks anyway.  Ron h jones (Talk) 23:29, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments/Disputes/Mistakes?
The information user TylerKnew is posting concerning Governor Beshear and Mr. Kelley is exaggerations at best and slander at worst. I have a pretty good take on who the user is or is aligned with, and he's trying to slander certain individuals as part of a Ballard County political pissing match, which does not need to spill into Wikipedia. Mr. Kelley is not a known figure outside of that county, and does not warrant mention in a biography concerning the Governor.


 * I'll look into this. Elockid (talk) 01:46, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Just saw this, thought I'd throw in...I did not write what was originally stated about Kelley and the Governor, I'm just trying to protect it against vandalism because it is, IMO, well-sourced. As I've said to many of these individuals editing the article, please take it up in the Talk: Steve Beshear page and don't remove content just because.  Wikipedia is supposed to be neutral.  We're trying to get the page protected against vandalism right now.  Thanks! TylerKnew (talk) 01:59, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Just saw what you wrote on my talk page, I was working off the understanding that 3RR didn't apply in regards to vandalism. You can see further up on my talk page where I came under this understanding.  It would have been easier to report it under 3RR.  Thanks!TylerKnew (talk) 02:02, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Just to update, if you check the Beshear edit history, I believe the user who started this thread is trying to post false personal details about myself (i.e. name) in an attempt to intimidate me, which is barred under Wikipedia. Nice try. TylerKnew He got an idea that it was someone named Cale from one of the sources linked (the PageOneKentucky one)(talk) 02:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you believe that the person who started and keeps doing this is the same person? If it is truly vandalism, you should try maybe requesting to see if the users are using sockpuppet accounts. Elockid (talk) 02:11, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually I do. I keep warning them about deleting randomly and when it gets to the point that I have to place the template stating that the next time they do it, they will be blocked...a new account surfaces and that one never is seen again.  Check out WP:PA and see what can be done if you would...trying to post personal details in an attempt to harass people is strictly against WP policy. I'm not entirely familiar with the process so if you could help I'd appreciate it. As far as posting the notice on my page, the way I look at it, no harm, no foul, that's the way it's supposed to work, don't sweat it :) TylerKnew (talk) 02:15, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for being understanding. The best advice I can give is ask help from an admin about the WP Policy. They should be more familiar with this than me. I'm not entirely familiar with the WP policy myself as I never encountered that really pertained to it yet. Sorry, I can't be of more help. Elockid (talk) 02:22, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Question
Hello Elockid, I noticed you do quite a bit of vandal-fighting. Would you like me to grant your account rollback rights to give you an additional tool in reverting vandalism? Tell me what you think. Thanks. Acalamari 22:14, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * That would be great if you can. Thank you for the opportunity. Elockid (talk) 22:16, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep, I can, and have done so. Just remember that rollback, like other anti-vandalism tools, should be used just to revert vandalism, and misuse/abuse by either reverting edits you disagree with or using them to revert-war with other editors can lead to the tool being removed, sometimes without any warning, depending on the admin. For practice, you may wish to see New admin school/Rollback. Good luck! Acalamari 22:23, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Filipino people
Just wanted to drop you a note about this. Though Orsahnses was clearly pushing war with all of us, you technically violated WP:3RR with your reverts. It's very easy to get pulled in to a war even when you are acting in good faith. The trick is to fight back without engaging in warring yourself - Dispute resolution is a good way to go. In this case, a report to Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring was called for, as Orsahnses had violated WP:3RR well before your fourth revert. Happy editing! Cheers, Vicenarian  (T · C) 03:32, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for the info. I didn't know where to go and it seems that I panicked a bit. Now I'm more informed. Elockid (talk) 03:39, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You're most welcome. I've been there myself. Cheers, Vicenarian  (T · C) 03:43, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Excellent work handling the Orsahnses sock! My only note would be that sockpuppet investigations should be opened under the name of the "master" account, which is usually the first multiple account identified (in this case, ). Vicenarian (T · C) 16:28, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the compliment. This was my first time reporting a sockpuppet account, so again, I wasn't too experienced. I read the sockpuppet guidelines before reporting the user and it help, but apparently I was still a bit off. Again, thanks a lot for the info and help! Elockid (talk) 16:33, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Augusto César Sandino
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Augusto_C%C3%A9sar_Sandino&diff=prev&oldid=299798613 Hello. With this edit you restored] negative unsourced material and vandalism that the anon had removed. Please look closely before reverting. Cheers,  Dloh  cierekim  01:48, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oops, that was a mistake on my part. Thank you for informing me. The bold lettering probably threw me off. I didn't catch that there was so match vandalism on the page. I'll try to be more careful next time. I put a warning on the user but I retracted it by putting a strikethrough. I hope that's enough/okay. Elockid (talk) 04:26, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Cross posted reply on welcoming
''Hi there and thanks for the heads up on the mistake I made. Also, I noticed that you also commented for User talk:98.21.130.13. Before I put the speedy deletion template, I noticed that it was this user who created it, User:67.82.60.241 not User:98.21.130.13, that's why I put it up and user 67.82.60.241 just added some nonsense to the user talk page. Just for future reference, should I just put up a welcome template and remove the nonsense if this kind of situation happens again where a different user creates someone else's user talk page and add nonsense? --Elockid (talk) 04:37, 2 July 2009 (UTC)''
 * Yes. Never be afraid to give a welcome template! I know, some users shriek about, "how can you welcome a vandal?" There are actually two templates for welcoming the underly constructive, so "yeah, I did." There's also a template for welcoming anon's.
 * But welcoming is not about being nice primarily. It is an opportunity to let a new user know about the expectations held by the community. Can we honestly say, "I'm blocking you for not going by the rules," when we've not made sure they had links to the rules? Where welcoming is pretty inappropriate, for attack pages, I use a template that explains in no uncertain terms how I feel about such and includes links and admonishments to the appropriate rules.
 * If an anon has no prior warnings, I use unless it involves so egregious an edit as to eliminate WP:AGF. Even if it was a dumb, totally wrong, probably vandalistic edit, I try to WP:AGF the first time, 'cause ultimately I have the power to block them, and will cheerfully do so if they wear out my AGF. Hope that helps. Cheers,   Dloh  cierekim  13:15, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That really helps. Thanks for info! Elockid (talk) 13:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * U R certainly welcome.  Dloh  cierekim  14:39, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Edit war redux
So much for WP:AGF, eh? Can't say we didn't try. I've filed a notice regarding our fellow editor's behavior here. Vicenarian (T · C) 14:25, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * At least we tried and gave him a chance. Elockid (talk) 18:52, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Indeed. And now he has a 24 hour block. Vicenarian  (T · C) 19:07, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

2009 Major League Baseball Home Run Derby
Hey there! I didn't mean to step on your toes or anything regarding the RFPP I just didn't think it was quite time to protect it yet. But, of course, that's just my opinion. Anyway, looking forward working with you to revert the straggler vandals :) --Mpdelbuono (talk) 02:12, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I think you meant this article, Home Run Derby. But you didn't at all step on my toes or anything. Looking at the past edits compared to what they were 10 or 20 minutes ago, they seem much more constructive. That's why I retracted my request. Anyways, looking forward to work against vandals with you too. Elockid (talk) 02:16, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oops, I'm watching both. Got a bit confused :) But yeah... (I should go back to sleep) --Mpdelbuono (talk) 02:30, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

For Your Work...

 * Thanks so much for the award, Vicenarian! Elockid (talk) 20:41, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You are welcome, you deserve it! Vicenarian  (T · C) 20:46, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

thanks for the welcome =)
How do you add those little boxes at the bottom of your user page? What about pictures? I want to put one up of my dog. I figured out how to add pictures when the picture is hosted on wikipedia (hosted? if not hosted then already on wikipedia on some other article) but I can't seem to find something to upload my own pictures. Thanks! Drummondear (talk) 22:11, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks sooooooo much. This place is confusing! Drummondear (talk) 22:34, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Hotel Phillips
Hi,

Why did you remove the CSD tag I placed on this article? Have you declined the speedy? Crafty (talk) 00:13, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh no, I'm not an admin (I didn't decline it). But looking at the history of the page, there was a copyright notice. When I looked into it, it was an exact copy from the website listed on the notice. Copyright violations are generally more serious, so that's why I reverted back to that version. Elockid (talk) 00:16, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. :) Cheers! Crafty (talk) 00:23, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

New Section 1
Hey elockid, i don't know how to respond to you. So, using 'edit this page' option to leave a message.

Don't make unsubstantiated accusations against me. I edited and put appropriate information on list of countries by GDP to which you made some ridiculous accusations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.147.168.26 (talk) 21:19, 25 July 2009 (UTC)


 * They are absolutely correct accusations. They are not at all ridiculous. Your changes to Australia, Iran, Indonesia, and Bangladesh are not even supported by any source. They were absolutely wrong and incorrect. Even the figure for the Gulf Cooperation Council was not correct. Furthermore, it's not an organization like the European Union that exhibits country like powers. Otherwise organizations such as ASEAN and African Union would have been included. You can even check here: IMF, World Bank, and CIA to show indeed that my accusations are correct. Also, none of your changes matches the sources listed. If you think they are correct, then discuss your changes over the talk page of the article for better suggestions. Those lists should be up to date already, so there should be no reason why your changes are justified. Elockid (talk) 22:17, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Nangparbat
Looks like it, yes. The MO and IPs both seem familiar. I can semi protect the articles if needed, but blocking this user is akin to playing whack-a-mole; as you can see in your list there, they're able to jump IP ranges easily, so even large rangeblocks don't have much effect. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 21:33, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Hispanophone world map
Hi Elockid, I now see, along with the removal of this dubious map, my edit unintentionally removed the final bracket of the infobox - sorry about that. See my comment here, to which no one has responded. It seems odd that such a low-quality user-generated image would be used in such a prominent article.24.22.141.252 (talk) 16:49, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe you should add your comment to the talk page of the article instead of the talk page of the file. More people should be able to reply. Elockid (talk) 01:18, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes it is!
As you may not have known, Spanish/Argentinian people lived there in the first place. I have family in there and i've visited the country. they speak spanish and some tagolog, that's because it's their native language. I can tell you, they are certainly not asians, they don't even look like it. The country is near asia but it's not even connected, it's slightly further away. But the population increased as more foreigners went to lived in philippines, calling themselves filipinos or whatever and making the country a part of asia. Minority of the people are confused if it's part of asia or part of pacific island even. but just like how spain is in europe, argentina is in south america, well philippines happened to be asia but it really should be something else. it simply should be just an island by itself but as a latin country —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aneyeforyou (talk • contribs) 05:59, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Argentine people? Never heard of them settling in the Philippines. Mainly Spanish via Mexico, not Argentina. The country used to speak Spanish back before the 1970's and 80's. Spanish isn't even an official language in the Philippines or a recognized regional language, that's just how significant it is. I have lots of Filipino friends and I can tell you that almost every single response they get when being asked what nationality/country they are from are Chinese, Japanese, or Korean. I think that really supports that Filipinos are Asian looking people. Also, your family might be part of a minority (Mestizos), that speak Spanish. That doesn't necessarily mean that everyone else speaks Spanish. You can also see that I'm not the only person who disagrees with you, Talk: Philippines

Maybe this wiki...
...could use a little pink? ;) Good catch. Vicenarian  (Said · Done) 22:05, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Lol. I was actually a bit confused what this user was doing at first. Their edit showed up on Huggle for this and I thought it was just something minor until somewhat reverted it. Then they edited another page on the page you posted. I checked it out, everything was pink! The pink was nice change from the all black, blue, and red text. Elockid (talk) 22:12, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey whats up man
Just wanted to say hi :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skchandon (talk • contribs) 01:03, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

thanks for help with stupid typo "<" vs. ">" on mumbai article
the article takes over one minute to load/preview, even to look at history. i'm on FIOS broadband with 2+GB of RAM (without a lot of browser windows going). i have quick, painless access to other sites that are much larger and jazzier than the mumbai article. --98.116.115.180 (talk) 03:15, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. Glad I could be of some help. I know about the issues with Mumbai. Sometimes it takes me forever to go and view the article. Elockid ( Talk·Contribs ) 04:20, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Athens and Thessaloniki parts, Greece at List of cities proper by population density
I think that Neapoli, Ampelokipoi, Kallithea and Nea Smyrni except Athens, should be removed from this list and transferred to List of the most densely populated country subdivisions. All these neighbourhoods are parts of either Athens or Thessaloniki, no matter if they constitute seperate municipalities. They cannot be characterized as different cities as they are absolutely integrated into a whole urban area. On the other hand, the List of the most densely populated country subdivisions explains that it includes every kind of country or urban division. Dimboukas (talk) 13:20, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Looking at the list from List of the most densely populated country subdivisions, it doesn't seem like it would fit in that much because almost all the places listed there seem to be part of a city district and not part of an urban area (suburb). The places you listed seem to have their own jurisdiction and own boundaries. To your other concern, although they are part of an urban area, they are still considered separate and I think should be included. But we'll just have to wait what other editors have to say in the meanwhile. Why not also ask Pjred since he's also a major contributor to the article? Elockid ( Talk·Contribs ) 13:37, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Mumbai modification
My reasoning for the changing of Mumbai to Bombay is the fact that most of the locals refer to it as Bombay as opposed to Mumbai, so I did this as a mark of respect for their views.

I understand that the city's name was changed a decade ago, however there should be some sort of reconciliation over the name on wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.53.67.133 (talk) 22:33, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The name of the article is Mumbai and in general terms, Wikipedia articles start with the name of title Deleting "formerly named Bombay" is misleading and untrue as the city was truly formerly named Bombay, as you have stated yourself. There is no need to change a colloquial name from the proper name as the proper name is the more preferred way of addressing the city and it's already mentioned that the city was named was Bombay. Furthermore, replacing everything with Mumbai is not very constructive because again, the city is known today as Mumbai and replacing it with Bombay is misleading. Rectifying that locally it still referred to as Bombay does not justify the change from Mumbai to Bombay since the world knows the city as Mumbai and not Bombay now. You have to take into account other view points as well. Since this is very controversial, I suggest that you talk this over in Talk: Mumbai. Elockid ( Talk·Contribs ) 22:43, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Mumbai article
I understand your justification and shall let matters rest there. Would it be possible if I could insert a piece of information stating simply, that 'most of the city's residents still refer to the city as Bombay' and footnote a source?

Sorry if there was any inconvenience, but I just wanted to raise this issue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.53.67.133 (talk) 22:46, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes you could do that. It would also help if you add a citation to it. If you know a published source but don't know how to cite it here, I can do it for you. Thank you for understanding. Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 22:50, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Source for the section above
The source is here: http://www.fodors.com/world/asia/india/mumbai-bombay-and-maharashtra/more.html. Could you reference this the piece, 'The city is still commonly referred to as Bombay by many of its residents howevever' in the Name section, please.

Many thanks for your help on this issue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.53.67.133 (talk) 23:04, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Will do that. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 23:06, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 23:17, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Posting
The posting looks great, i'm really appreciative of your patience and ammendment.

With regards.86.53.67.133 (talk) 23:17, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I also appreciate your cooperation. Happy editing! <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 23:23, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

The referendum article
I am going to delete the section on India and Pakistan in the Referendum article, it just serves as a POV magnet for opposing editors from Pakistan and India and has no sources. Pahari Sahib 13:57, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That's fine with me. To what Nangparbat was talking about. I don't simply revert because he thinks I'm anti-Pakistan. But it's just standard WP policy to revert actions by banned users to enforce a ban. I hope that this didn't cause you to think differently. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 14:00, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh don't worry, I didn't ;-) Pahari Sahib  14:02, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Taiwan included in high income economy
See this. --211.179.112.25 (talk) 08:47, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay. But you have to add the source in with that with the current source. Because this (the current source does not support it. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 09:20, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

my contributions to 'kolkata' article, and the justifications to include them.
Hi ,

if you notice closely i have actually not inserted anything new. i have just taken parts of the current existing 'kolkata' article which are very widely accepted and edited the introduction part to give it a better description of the city. as it stands in the current version i really feel it conveys a rather 'pessimistic' and 'negative' image of kolkata ,my contribution was not 'too optimistic', rather just wanted to make it sound more neutral to a reader who is reading about the city for the first time.

'riots, political violence , poverty , congestion , trade unionism ' etc is Not what defines kolkata. so in the present form of the article, the introduction stands really disappointing about one of the most remarkable cities on this planet. i am currently writing from UK, and i can assert you that this is a generally shared view of many of this article. kolkata is an unique city and should have been introduced in a more sensitive and glorious way.

as per verifications-

1) calcutta WAS the capital of british india, and the 'first city 'by population , influence and commerce even long after the capital was shifted to delhi in 1911.

2)it WAS the seat of 'modern indian renaissance' . ( english and european education, abolition of 'sati' , women education , influence of swami vivekananda , rabindranath tagore , first library , first printing press , indian independance movement , presidency college , first medical college , bengal art movement .. etc. ). much of this is ALREADY CONTAINED in the LATTER SECTIONS of the current revision and is THEREFORE ACCEPTED BY YOU BEFORE.

3)among noble laureates RABINDRANATH TAGORE, AMARTYA SEN hail from kolkata . MOTHER THERESA lived in kolkata for the significant part of her life . RONALD ROSS AND C.V. RAMAN were awarded noble prizes for all the work they had done in kolkata . SATYAJIT RAY , another distinguished calcuttan was the first indian to have been awarded a SPECIAL ACADEMY AWARD ON LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT ( OSCAR) . all these names already figure in latter sections of your current article .In music PANDIT RAVI SHANKAR and recent grammy award winner BIKRAM GHOSH hails from kolkata as well along with many others.

4)'WIDELY DUBBED AS THE CULTURAL CAPITAL OF INDIA' is an excerpt from your CURRENT ARTICLE in a latter section.

5) 'CITY OF JOY' is another widely accepted name, since the time dominic lapierre's famous novel of the same name was became an international hit , followed by a movie of the same name .REF: wikepedia.

6)kolkata was the FIRST city in india to have launched a cell phone service . it was the first and only city in india to have the underground METRO service till recently when delhi become the second city to have a functioning metro service . the details of above can be verified from 'WIKEPEDIA' by clicking on respective links or searches.

7)Kolkata IS the home to largest 'ANGLO INDIAN CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY, ARMENIAN COMMUNITY , CHINESE COMMUNITY , JAIN COMMUNITY AND TRADITIONALLY ONE OF THE LARGEST MUSLIM COMMUNITIES ( even before the creation of east pakistan and subsequently bangladesh ).kolkata IS very cosmopolitan , these are known facts ,and anybody denying these facts will be looked at with wonder by millions.

8)WHAT I HAD BASICALLY ATTEMPTED IN MY CONTRIBUTION WAS A TRANSPOSED SUMMARY OF WHAT KOLKATA STANDS FOR AND IS LOVED ABOUT FROM LATTER SECTIONS OF YOUR OWN ARTICLE, BECAUSE MANY OF MY FRIENDS HAVE EARLIER COMMENTED TO ME ON THE RATHER NEGATIVE SOUNDING INTRODUCTION THAT THE CURRENT VERSION OF THE ARTICLE HAS.

I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER REINSTALLING MY CONTRIBUTION ON THE ABOVE ARTICLE IF YOU THINK THAT WAY.

THANKS

SIGNED 'indian99 'Indian99 (talk) 11:57, 29 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Your contributions are appreciated and I know the information you added, however you have to understand that Kolkata is a featured article (you can see by the bronze star on the upper right corner of the article) which means that are certain guidelines . Check Featured articles. Also the edit is too optimistic and not very neutral. Please see WP: NPOV. Phrases such "City a class of its own", and also "Many countless admirers" is definitely not neutral. Furthermore some of the information is controversial and not mentioned anywhere else in the article such as the first city to have cell phone service and modern, vibrant, and cosmopolitan megalopolis. Maybe in India but compared to a person from Japan or Canada, I don't think that Kolkata would be a city that would come up that people would see as modern and cosmopolitan. Also, the edit was riddled with grammatical errors and wording issues. Like you said, the information is already stated in the article. So in this case, duplicating material is redundant. So a summary, while great is repetitive and not very helpful overall. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 15:05, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

thanks, and have a look
You just removed the inappropriate warning from Rjanag's talkpage. Same person keeps warring @ South Korea via IP. I've started an SPI, but I'm tired of reverting that stuff. Neither user nor (sockpuppet?)-IP leave any comments at Talk. Have a look if you can. thanks. Seb az86556 (talk) 12:09, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look. I've been trying to look into things ever since this user also gave me an inappropriate warning. But I did note something yesterday. In this user's talk page, User talk:HOOTmag:

"Where are you from? --Rayesworied (talk) 05:47, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Where are you from? HOOTmag (talk) 00:47, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

I am from in South Korea. --Rayesworied (talk) 08:27, 27 August 2009 (UTC)"


 * The IP geolocates to South Korea and Rayesworried is in or from South Korea. It's possible that they are related. So it wouldn't surprise me if they were the same person. Also base on the editing patterns (same pages and message patterns), it be the same person. Also it might be a good idea to ask for a rangeblock because I've seen the anon user use multiple IP's. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 12:19, 30 August 2009 (UTC)


 * The SPI is here. If you know other possible socks or would like to comment, go for it. Seb az86556 (talk) 12:27, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I added my comment to the SPI about the one above. I'm trying to find the other IP's but can't seem to find them at the moment. If I find anymore, I'll be sure to add them to the SPI case. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 12:29, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Added some IPs and commented on them. The bot seems to like to remove my comments however for some reason (I think it's the timestamp on my quote). I'll try to keep my comments on. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 12:44, 30 August 2009 (UTC)