User talk:Elockid/Archive 8

Human Development Index
Would you like to semi-protect Human Development Index? It is being vandalized again and again. HOOTmag (talk) 18:44, 1 September 2011 (UTC)


 * ✅. Elockid  ( Talk ) 19:26, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you. HOOTmag (talk) 19:28, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Email
Just sent you one. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 01:44, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

User talk:Poobutton33337
Needs talk page revocation. Calabe1992 (talk) 03:17, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


 * ✅. Elockid  ( Talk ) 03:18, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Fail
Heh, epic fail. I've poked another admin to lift editing protection but keep move protection in place. Steven Zhang The clock is ticking....  23:46, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Oops (Feels embarrassed, lol). Elockid  ( Talk ) 00:02, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
 Kudu ~I/O~ 13:16, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Vote X soc
It seems that Vote X like to continue posting on discussions on the RSN and restoring his comments as they get deleted. Might try manually archiving the two threads (Rogue Admins and the new one) to see if that slows him down any. Ravensfire ( talk ) 18:15, 16 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I would, but I'm basically the main subject being talked about there. I think others would consider it bad practice if I archived it. Would it be possible for you to archive the discussions? Elockid  ( Talk ) 18:18, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Certainly. Looks like MuZemike rev-del's the latest thread, so just the earlier one will need archiving.  Persistent bugger, isn't he?.  Ravensfire ( talk ) 18:25, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yup. Thank you very much for helping out. Elockid  ( Talk ) 18:29, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Help with Perpetual Calendar
I see you've addressed 86.135.240.243 and the "Exigian" Calendar on Hebrew Calendar by semi-protecting the page. The same controversy exists on Perpetual Calendar, where the word "Exigian" itself never appeared until a dispute between me and that same anonymous editor led to him/her referring to this new __00 leap year proposal by that name. The anonymous editor insists on reverting every change I make to Perpetual Calendar to make it accurately depict a true perpetual calendar table for both Julian and Gregorian reckonings. I've tried to hold a constructive dialogue about how the article could include some coverage of this "Exegian" reckoning in addition to Gregorian and Julian if some consensus could be reached that "Exegian" were worthy of inclusion (to which I do not stipulate), but that under no circumstances is it appropriate to cover a proposed calendar reform that has not been adopted by any government, religious, scientific, or standards body at the expense of losing coverage of the current world standard (Gregorian).

Do you think Perpetual Calendar could be semi-protected as well?The Monster (talk) 22:39, 16 September 2011 (UTC)


 * ✅. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 03:37, 17 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you. The Monster (talk) 05:09, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Advice
Hey Elockid. I was wondering if I could get some advice from you. I am thinking about submitting an RfA. I've always been interested in becoming an admin, and in the past I've set up goal posts for when I would apply, but I keep pushing them back. One of goalposts was to wait till I went two years without a block. That was achieve in June. My other goalpost was to wait till I started grad school, which was officially achieved last month. I was wondering, how time consuming is the RfA process and you could give me advice on how I should prepare for it. I am thinking about waiting until December when I will have a lot more free time Thegreyanomaly (talk) 05:17, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Depending on the number of questions and the type of questions you get, RFA can be time consuming. Be sure to have enough time to keep an eye on the RFA at least once or twice a day and answer the questions added. It can also be an emotional experience for some when people. See Giftiger wunsch's RFA. December seems like a good time to me. Don't have to worry about finals, right? Here's what I can tell you so far:
 * 1) You should probably create User:Thegreyanomaly/EditCounterOptIn.js first.
 * 2) Answer the first question. Lot's of RFAs fail because the reason why the person wants to be an admin don't require the admin tools.
 * 3) Look at what places in the Wikipedia space you have participated the most. This is a good hint where you should be stating that you will be working at. Don't say ANI. People don't want any more drama. Be sure to have plenty of edits in the Wikipedia space especially in the place where you indicated you wanted to work at. If you think you don't have enough contributions, I would start helping out there immediately.
 * 4) Brush up on the policies that will be used in the places where you will be planning to work. For example, if you plan to work at AIV, the blocking policy would apply. Questions you might get are:
 * What is the difference between a block and a ban?
 * When should cool down blocks be used?
 * How many warnings is sufficient for a block?
 * 5) Take a look at your contribs and see which ones people would most likely criticize about. Some people are willing to go even a year or two back.
 * 6) The first three questions are the same for RFA and crucial. So be sure to be thorough and concise on those to give a good first impression.
 * 7) May or may not appear, but some people might throw in a BLP question even though a person might not plan to work there. That's a policy I suggest you should know. You might get a question like:
 * How important is the BLP policy to Wikipedia?
 * Do you believe the BLP policy does enough to stop vandalism?
 * 8) Be prepared for the drama.
 * That's what I can think of so far. If I come up with anything else, I'll tell you. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 12:57, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I hope I'm not being too indiscrete nor cold, but at 5,500 edits, it seems like you still have some way to go before becoming an admin. Also, you've been somewhat inactive in the past few months. However, you still seem like a great contributor and I would definitely consider you for admin candidacy in a few months. — <span style="font-family: Georgia, Garamond, serif;"> Kudu ~I/O~ 13:44, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

@Elockid, thanks for the advice. I think I will wait till Christmas-time when I'm home for winter break. @KuduIO I know I only have 5000-some edits, but I've been on wikipedia for about six years. I just go through lulls and highs. Sometimes I edit a lot, sometimes I retreat. In the past few months, I've been editing the Infosphere (non-wikia Futurama wiki) primarily instead of Wikipedia; now that the Futurama season is over, I won't be splitting my wiki time between the two. Thegreyanomaly (talk) 20:21, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Template:Bagong_Alyansang_Makabayan/meta/shortname
Could you create this template with the following contents Aksyon This is needed for the Philippine Senate election, 2013 page. Thank you. Frietjes (talk) 19:58, 20 September 2011 (UTC)


 * ✅. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 22:50, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Arbitration Committee/CheckUser and Oversight/2011 CUOS appointments
Your candidate subpage has been created and transcluded to the above-noted location.

Please answer the standard questions and also keep watch for additional questions that may be posted by the community.

Thank you again for your offer to serve as a functionary. – xeno <sup style="color:black;">talk 12:44, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Jerry Goldsmith
Please, could you protect Jerry Goldsmith for a while. This page is a constant target of the same user that has attacked Small Soldiers, Small Soldiers (video game), Small Soldiers (soundtrack), and many others. He has only disrupted Wikipedia with no intention to stop. Thank you. Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions.  02:21, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 02:25, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much. Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!  See terms and conditions.  02:28, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Block evasion explanation
If you think it's appropriate, could you comment on 211.179.112.45's unblock request. I've denied it, but the user is claiming that they are not the banned user. I've never dealt with this situation and am unsure how to properly proceed. Thank you, Danger (talk) 11:09, 29 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the notification. I've directed the IP the place where to look to compare edits. If you're interested, I can send you an email with the relevant evidence why I've blocked the IP as a sockpuppet. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 11:46, 29 September 2011 (UTC)


 * If it wouldn't be too much trouble. Sockpuppetry investigations are, alas, a bit of a mystery to me. --Danger (talk) 11:48, 29 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Alrighty, sent. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 12:05, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Pontiac
Hey, looks like he's back. looks to be him, let me look around for more, but what do you think? cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  07:38, 1 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm pretty sure that's him. What made it more solidifying was the resurgence of the usual IPs he's editing from. I've blocked that range for another 6 months. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 12:36, 1 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok, so I thought; he's had a couple of ranges at his disposal, I'll resurrect the SPI to grab any sleepers. BTW some edit conflict! &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  12:40, 1 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Ooooh. Looks like great minds think alike. :) <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 12:41, 1 October 2011 (UTC)


 * What about looks similar to P, but wasn't unearthed on the SPI? cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  15:21, 4 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Agree, it looks like him. If the account was editing a different range from the other accounts listed at SPI, it's possible that an account won't be found. We know some of his ranges, so we could get a check on those too. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 03:09, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Blocking because of talk page contribution?
I just added something at the talk page. Why blocking because of this? --92.226.142.202 (talk) 15:59, 7 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I think you know why. You "just" didn't add something to the talk page. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 16:01, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

I created a seperate section at the end of the page. It is not to unserstand for why blocking for the reason. People should stop reverting without answering to my section. I have explained there why I reverted. It just can not be the "policy" of Wikipedia to block the people with other opinions. --85.179.85.101 (talk) 16:04, 7 October 2011 (UTC)


 * It is policy to block people who are disruptively editing as you done with . It is also policy to block any and all IPs and accounts the person uses to evade their block as you have been doing. Please see WP:Sockpuppetry. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 16:07, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Check user
Hello, I have granted you the access. Please contact me in order to sign up for chechuser-l and access to checkuserwiki. Use it wisely! :) Matanya (talk) 23:38, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Please review these blocks
There was a bug in MediaWiki 1.18 that caused blocks made via the API to have talk page access disabled when it should have been enabled. This also affected scripts such as User:Animum/easyblock.js. Please review the following blocks to make sure that you really intended talk page access to be disabled, and reblock if necessary. If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to post at User talk:Anomie. Thanks! Anomie⚔ 02:05, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
 * 1)  by Elockid at 2011-10-13T22:52:50Z, expires infinity: Abusing multiple accounts

Congratulations :-)
Welcome to the Checkuser team! FloNight&#9829;&#9829;&#9829;&#9829; 08:59, 14 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks! <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 10:55, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

changes in the list of most populous cities of india
r/sir, the changes which i made to the article of list of most populous cities in india was based on the figures announced by the official website of census of india 2011.i din't provide the pdf as i do not know how to upload and use it.do check the site.thank u.


 * You have to link to the source especially when there is another source present. You don't need to upload anything. All you have to do is add . <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 11:46, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Economy of Asia
Please could you semiprotect Economy of Asia where the ipsocks of Realhistorybuff are still active. Thanks, Mathsci (talk) 15:44, 21 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Wish I could. But I think if I IAR on that page, people might see that negatively since I'm involved (That's why I self rved). Let me put a request up on IRC. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 15:48, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Please could you at least block the IP sock 117.192.87.232 who is targeting my talk page? Thanks, Mathsci (talk) 15:52, 21 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm working out a solution right now. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 15:53, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Help with complex sock puppet case
Hello Elockid. I'd like to request your time and expertise to try to solve a complex sockpuppetry case. There's a user whose oldest-known account is. He has been discovered to sockpuppet multiple accounts since 2005. He has been blocked several times, but it seems that his indefinite block is never enforced properly so he returns from time to time. For years, I've been struggling with administrators that simple don't care about this case, or simply impose blocks based on behavior (3RR, uncivility) ignoring the fact that the person behind these accounts is a long-time sockpuppet abuser.

I've categorized all of his known sockpuppets and anonymous IPs here Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of E Pluribus Anthony.

It is very shocking to me that his 2 more used accounts were never blocked! (See User:E Pluribus Anthony and User:Corticopia) as sockmasters. I am very familiar with this case and I've produced a list of evidence ever since I discovered and reported several of his accounts. Please, please see my talk page, all the evidence as edit pattern and behavior is there.

Summarizing, I request your help with the following:
 * 1) To block and tag all obvious sockpuppets and masters: User:E Pluribus Anthony, User:Corticopia and User:User-216-234-60-106 (this last account name was based on one of his used and blocked anonymous IP, see User:216.234.60.106).
 * 2) To investigate (maybe perfrom a Checkuser) and open a SPI case to block account User:Bosonic dressing, that has the same edit pattern than those of the other already blocked accounts. I asked this to another admin but I was told to open a SPI case and then that it probably wouldn't work because it was an inactive account. I noticed that the account recently has been used now, so an SPI case will work. I think that based on behavior it is very obvious as per WP:DUCK. Please see my talk page, all the evidence is there, at the bottom.
 * 3) To investigate his Commons account "Corticopious"  that has edited recently in May 2011, despise being an indefinitely blocked user in WP.
 * 4) To investigate what others accounts he might be using. As an abusive user he has been banned from editing and based on this  and the recent activity of User:Bosonic dressing, it is clear that he is avoiding that block.

I hope you are willing to help, because as a complex case, this situation needs a little reading in order to see how the history developed. Reading is the only way to see the obvious edit pattern, behaviors and writing style, very very obvious.

If you find this task too tedious, I would appreciate that you can refer me to another administrator that could be willing to help. Thanks for your time.  Alex Covarrubias  <sup style="font-size:x-small; color:green;">( Talk? )  19:55, 21 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll respond to each point separately:
 * 1) I think it would be better to open an SPI case or if you prefer, ANI. We can discuss this with other admins and clerks. I can also discuss this case with other clerks and admins on IRC. I'd feel more comfortable with this since this case goes way further than when I started editing here.


 * 2) All of the sockpuppets listed in the suspected sockpuppets are . There's nothing I can compare to.


 * 3) I don't have any extra set of tools on Commons, I can't really help if you need any administrator assistance there. Sorry


 * 4) See one.


 * I'm willing to help you out. But a case this complex as you state should probably have more eyes. It would also help if you could supply links to some evidence such as Corticopia saying he/she's from Toronto. I can already tell you though that Chipmunkdavis is probably ❌ (no check performed). Considering my previous statement, do you mind providing more comparisons for Bosonic dressing? <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 22:17, 21 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi and thanks for your willingness to help. I have some questions regarding this case. Why do we need to open a SPI case to block the obvious sockpuppet master account E Pluribus Anthony? There are at least two SPI cases about E Pluribus Anthony, so I wonder why they never indefinitely blocked that account! The same goes about Corticopia. Both accounts were found to be using sockpuppets but never were blocked! That's incredible and a terrible mistake.


 * I never opened a SPI case against Bosonic dressing, but now it is the time. I can easily show edit pattern consistency with those both accounts. It is a tedious task but I can do it. So I'd like to ask you if you know a tool that can compare contributions of two or more accounts, in order to simplify my task. I once came across one, but I can't remember what is was and where I found it. Can you ask your fellow administrators about this tool? Thanks.  Alex Covarrubias  <sup style="font-size:x-small; color:green;">( Talk? )  00:40, 22 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Wow, it took me 2 hours but I managed to create a comparative table to show the consistency of edit pattern. I think it is going to be very helpful .  Alex Covarrubias  <sup style="font-size:x-small; color:green;">( Talk? )  02:45, 22 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, there is a tool to compare edits. It's here. I'll forward some of the info when I get on IRC. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 15:23, 22 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Currently discussing with other clerks. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 01:12, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you Elockid!  Alex Covarrubias  <sup style="font-size:x-small; color:green;">( Talk? )  21:23, 24 October 2011 (UTC)


 * There's some consensus with some of the clerks to block. But do you mind though if I seek a couple more opinions to make a more definitive conclusion? <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 00:00, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I am glad that other clerks also see what's evident. Thanks for all your help! And yes, if you think it is the best to ask other clerks of course I don't mind.  Alex Covarrubias  <sup style="font-size:x-small; color:green;">( Talk? )  05:10, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Hello Elockid. One of the confirmed sockpuppets just edited and removed a SP template from his own page. That means that the person behind all these accounts is well aware of the ongoing investigation, very likely from another account we still don't know about, regardless of the fact that he's a banned user.  Alex Covarrubias  <sup style="font-size:x-small; color:green;">( Talk? )  16:45, 30 October 2011 (UTC)


 * is a ✅ match to . I've blocked both accounts indefinitely. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 18:17, 30 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I've also blocked the other accounts per above. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 18:20, 30 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your valuable help Elockid. I deeply appreciate it. I hope I can be useful to you in the near time. Sincerely,  Alex Covarrubias  <sup style="font-size:x-small; color:green;">( Talk? )  22:01, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Hello Elockid. I have another question. I have lately detected some other accounts that, in my opinion, are likely the same user. Mainly because as a long time editor, I now am very used to his POV, edit pattern and style writing. He always returns, from time to time, to add the same POV. It is easy to detect him because nobody else tries to add the same POV.

However, I was wondering that given the fact that he's a long-time sockpuppet abuser, does Wikipedia have a procedure or tool to detect any other possible sockpuppet we might not be aware of?

In my opinion, that user will learn from the clues he leaves that make him easy to recognize, and will change his behavior (mainly edit pattern in each account), to try to disguise as a "new user" and confuse possible detection. What can be done in these cases? Thanks.  Alex Covarrubias  <sup style="font-size:x-small; color:green;">( Talk? )  00:12, 4 November 2011 (UTC)


 * No tools are coming to mind. Sorry. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 00:19, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Asia article; Economy of Asia; India
Elockid!! Looks like I've run into you quite a few times on Wikipedia! Why on earth do you keep blocking me man???? I edit using VERY, VERY reliable sources. You keep blocking me for no reason. Why is there such a heavy pro - Chinese bias on Wikipedia?? Are you of Chinese decent? Or are you just another American who has been manipulated into believing that China was actually one of the leading civilizations of Asia??? India was the wealthiest civilization for ALL of human history except for the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries!

I think that the sentence added by "Philleason" or whatever the hell his name is should be deleted. CHINA WAS NEVER THE WEALTHIEST CIVILIZATION AT ANY POINT OF TIME IN HISTORY! Now, you may argue saying that India was a collection of kingdoms back then. THIS IS WRONG INFORMATION. INDIA WAS UNITED FOR THE FIRST TIME UNDER THE NAME "BHARATHVARSA" BY "ASHOKA THE GREAT" DURING THE REIGN OF THE MAURYAN EMPIRE IN 273 BC! THIS IS HOW INDIA GOT ITS IDENTITY! The treacherous, immoral and repulsive British pushed their own POV for almost half a century! They were no more than common thieves with a good plan who happened to be in the right place at the right time! They realised that the Mughal Empire was severely weakened, with a lot of internal conflicts between the local rulers. they swoooped in, funded both sides of the wars they themselves created and eventually took control of ONLY 60% OF INDIA. THE WHOLE OF INDIA WAS NEVER UNDER THE BRITISH! THIS IS BRITISH PROPAGANDA - THAT IS ALL IT IS! THE REMAINING 40% WAS NEVER UNDER THE BRITISH. HOWEVER, THE BRITISH HAD SIGNIFICANT INFLUENCE AS A RESULT OF THE TRADE REGULATIONS THEY ENFORCED IN THE 60% OF INDIA THAT THEY HAD UNDER THEIR CONTROL!

Now here is a list of things I want you to do, for me, and for Wikipedia:

1) Delete the following sentence in the economy of Asia section: "China was the largest and most advanced economy on earth for much of recorded history, until the British Empire (excluding India) overtook it in the mid 19th century." IT IS WRONG INFORMATION AND SLIGHTLY INSULTING TO INDIA! The links used are dubious! One of the links is a news article. The other links have used the first link as a reference in their work! My link is from a reputed British economic historian named Angus Maddison who attended the University of Cambridge - one of the best universities in the world. China was never the wealthiest civilization at any point of time in human history! This is Horseshit spoonfed by the comm party of China and eaten up wholeheartedly by SOME Americans. If you want to mention that China was one of the wealthiest, or the second wealthiest throughout its history, then be my guest.

2) Remove the map of British India in the "India" article and replace it with a map of the Mauryan Empire under Ashoka the Great. All the Britishers did was loot India.

3) In the "Economy of Asia" section, it is mentioned that China was never under European rule. THIS IS ALSO FALSE INFORMATION! China has the dubious distinction of being the only civilization to have been colonised by both Asians and Europeans! Japan colonised almost the whole of the east coast of China and the British(Europeans, if you didn't know)ruled Hong Kong and Kowloon!

4) The introduction to the India article does not do justice to what is arguably the greatest civilization in human history! The introduction should mention that India is the oldest and the oldest living civilization on the planet. A special mention has to be made about the wealth of Ancient India, and the inventions and discoveries made by ancient Indians should have separate section and should be broken down by the field in which the invention/discovery was made.

5) There should be a separate section called "Quotes on India" in the main page of the India article! People should know the quotes that have been made about India by some of the greatest historical figures.

Whaddya think? And stop blocking me, man!

117.192.65.189 (talk) 11:22, 23 October 2011 (UTC)


 * 1) First of all, you are blocked meaning that you are not allowed to edit until your block is rescinded. To enforce this block any user may revert any edits you make and it is customary to block any and all socks. Note that I also haven't blocked you. I have reverted your edits though.


 * 2) Clear deceit right there. That's a clear cut case of sockpuppetry which is not allowed. I think this might be third time you've done this. If you ever want to start editing again, you need to earn back the trust of the community. Continuing to deceive the community will not help you.


 * 3) Just because a person graduated from a prestigious university, that doesn't make them a reliable. Ever heard of Bill O'Reilly? He's definitely not a reliable source of information.


 * 4) China was never under European rule (entirely colonized). There were colonies such as Hong Kong and Macau, but that doesn't mean China was under European rule. There were unequal treaties with Britain for example the Opium War treaties, but that did not bring British rule over China. I do recall you somewhere saying that China was only one that was conquered by both Eastern and Western Empires. Now, the Indus River valley was part of Indian Civilization. Parts of the Indus River valley was conquered by the Persians, namely the Achaemenids. The Indus River valley was even conquered by the Greeks. You might argue that the Indus River valley is part of Pakistan today, but in history, it was still part of the Indian civilization. By your logic then, India was also conquered by Eastern and Western Empires. Note, the Mongols also conquered parts of India, and also the Indus River valley, the Arabs also conquered parts of the Indus River Valley.


 * 5) I would hardly call India as the greatest civilization on earth. India had a long history of social discrimination namely the extremely rigid caste system. People such as the Untouchables hardly have any opportunity or if any opportunity to better their lives. Even today, there are still parts of India that still follow the caste system. In modern history, it's lagging behind current societies.


 * 6) Your edits are pure POV and plenty of it is incorrect information. For example, just right here. India was the wealthiest civilization for ALL of human history except for the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries! This is wrong on so many levels. An obvious fact is that India is not the richest in the 21st century which we are in now. Secondly, other empires such as the Arab Caliphates or the Roman Empire had greater wealth than India during their peaks. The other editors have also identified this. There isn't a lot of pro-Chinese views in Wikipedia. It's just that your information isn't accepted and is not thereal history that the majority of world accepts. Other obviously false information that you've been trying to introduce is that Sanskrit is the mother of all languages (original statement: Sanskrit is the mother of all languages. It has been proven time and time again that Sanskrit was the first language to originate. We've already disproved that India is NOT the oldest civilization nor the oldest continuing civilization.


 * Perhaps if you actually delved into other history, you'll realize that a lot the things you've been saying is just plain wrong. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 00:01, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks! <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 00:48, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Brucejenner
Hi Elockid. I hope this isn't too beansy, but what tipped you off that Anderson Cooper's Boyfriend was a sock of BJ? Lady of  Shalott  01:00, 24 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I initially thought it was BJ. But based on where Anderson Cooper's Boyfriend was editing from, it probably isn't BJ unless he moved. Might have missed the memo. I did run a check on the account and there were plenty of other socks. I just blocked it since because of that. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 01:04, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Gothcha ok, thanks. Lady  of  Shalott  01:07, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Difference
Do you think there is a difference between List of most populous metropolitan areas in India and List of million-plus agglomerations in India. In India a city is called a "Metropolitan area" only if it has a minimum population of 4 million. The census authorities don't define any area like Metropolitan area for a city. They consider all as Urban agglomerations. -- Commander (Ping Me) 04:49, 24 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I think there is a difference. Take Delhi for example. Most of the metropolitan area definitions of Delhi I know extend their boundaries past the NCT to include Gurgaon and Ghaziabad. The article on Delhi also makes a similar reference to this. The UA is only for the NCT. Some sources like the UN, where for some cities like Jakarta and Seoul, suburbs that would be generally included based on common conception of a metropolitan area are not included. This is what it seems like is going on here. In the general though, metropolitan area is not the same as agglomeration in terms of definition. People do interchange them though, but that can lead to problems. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid (Alternate)</b> ( Talk ) 14:52, 24 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Cities like Delhi, Mumbai, Chennai, Kolkata and Bangalore have Metropolitan Development Authorities but some of them do not define the population/area. I don't think there is something called as a "Metropolitan Area" for cities other than the metros. -- Commander (Ping Me) 15:13, 24 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Perhaps then there needs to be an explanation for the discrepancy between a common conception of a metropolitan area and the term metropolitan areas for the current article? Alternatively, the article could be redirected if other editors felt that there is no difference. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid (Alternate)</b> ( Talk ) 15:22, 24 October 2011 (UTC)


 * It looks like some calculations have been carried out this time by the cenusus authorities. See and . They say the Delhi UA is smaller than Mumbai's where as Delhi Metropolitan area is the largest in the country. We should go ahead and change everything. -- Commander  (Ping Me) 17:32, 1 November 2011 (UTC)


 * According to this link there are extended UA (Metropolitan areas) for some cities while some do not have. -- Commander (Ping Me) 18:03, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Iamtrhino/Archive
Behaviorally looks like P, don't you think? If it is, then maybe we need to merge the cases? cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  06:14, 24 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll do a check against the other socks later on today to confirm whether or not it's P. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid (Alternate)</b> ( Talk ) 14:54, 24 October 2011 (UTC)


 * The UAs of the socks match with Shail Kap. Looks like a common UA though based on other checks I've done. The IPs Iamtrhino were almost completely different, except for one IP. Same region though. Might be a work and home thing. Based on behavior and location, I'd say that there's probably a relation. I'll ask a clerk to merge the cases when I get on IRC. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 20:32, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

looks like a duck case for and. Making the same edits --Sodabottle (talk) 06:50, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * ✅ + . Looked to see if a rangeblock was possible to. Doesn't look like it unfortunately. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 11:07, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Bros
Sorry to bother you, but it didn't take the sock long to realize the protection is down, and they are back again. Can you please re-protect the article? Best regards. --Muhandes (talk) 07:16, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Hehe, I was filling up an SPI when I saw them already blocked. Thanks. --Muhandes (talk) 11:16, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm doing a sleeper check now. I'll protect the article shortly. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 11:17, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 11:21, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks again. There was also an edit by an IP which might be connected. --Muhandes (talk) 11:35, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You don't need to worry about it right now. But if you do see the same disruption, please feel free to stop by. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 11:52, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

IRC
Can you come on Freenode for a bit? Need to talk to you. DS (talk) 11:52, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm leaving right around now. Mind sending me an email instead? <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 11:53, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Your opinion in Nagorno Karabakh
Hello Elockid, recently Ali55te added some controversial information to the Contemporary situation in the Nagorno Karabakh article. I have raised concerns regarding these edits as I believe that they add no value to the article for multiple reasons. The information in the contemporary situation headline is based on resolutions and declarations while the information by Ali55te is statement of personal nature and cherry picking (UAV). Could you please take a look at the ongoing discussion regarding this matter. I would very much appreciate your opinion on this subject in the ongoing discussion in the talkpage. I ask you because you are a neutral party and have experience in these subjects. Please see here for the discussion section. Mursel (talk) 15:23, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Reporting vandalism
Hi, Elockid. Sorry to bother you, but since you are the most active admin in the article and the one that warned the vandalizer, I thought I should ask your help. The user Dhruvgupta97 just vandalized the List of countries by GDP (PPP) article again, doing the same thing he did before and after being warned by you. He also vandalized the GDP (Nominal) article. I already undid the vandalism, but I'm reporting to you for you to take any measure is aplicable in this case. 201.82.134.33 (talk) 11:18, 27 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Blocked for 1 week and warned for future vandalism. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 23:57, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Dangerpatel
Are and  ?


 * Probably not unless he decided to take a trip to the US. If you see phrases like "Retrieve census of india", then it's them. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 11:02, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Hahaha. I've come across his POV only on Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel International Airport (since I maintain airport articles of India). I'm unaware of his other POVs. But it's quite possible he's taken a trip to US, maybe on the direct Air India Ahmedabad–Newark flight. Anyways I'll keep an eye on him. &mdash;  Abhishek   Talk 14:14, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol. Last time I saw him though (last week), he was still in India. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 15:34, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

oye hoye.so, m popular enough ha.of course if pepole's like abhishek sir and elock sir remember me it's more than enough 4 me.hahaha :).thanks both of u for remembering me.& abhishek sir, don't worry, now i do not have enough time 2 vandalise wiki.anyways wish u & elock sir a vry vry happy diwali.cheeers :)-

user:Ultrasupergaben
Unless there is some other reason a straight indefinite block for something that looks like testing vandalism is probably a bit excessive.©Geni 14:46, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * If I may butt in, the user was taking part in a 4chan raid. Users such as these are quickly (and correctly) shown the door as soon as possible. --Bongwarrior (talk) 15:00, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Bongwarrior pretty much explained it. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 15:32, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * thankyou for the explanation.©Geni 09:45, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

IRC
When you get a chance, could you stop by and give me a ping please? -- DQ  (t)   (e)  23:28, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Realhistorybuff
Asia quack. I'm beginning to think year-long semi is needed or something, as this is just IP hopping. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 12:29, 1 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Different locations from the ones in the Asia page. I wouldn't rule out MEAT though. Anyways, I've updated the information where that user got the information. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid (Alternate)</b> ( Talk ) 13:56, 1 November 2011 (UTC)


 * 86.30.173.221? Chipmunkdavis (talk) 17:15, 1 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Looks like the same user as above (the IPs geolocate to England). <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid (Alternate)</b> ( Talk ) 21:06, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
Commander (Ping Me) 19:50, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
...for keeping an eye on my talkpage ( talk→  BWilkins   ←track ) 10:00, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for the vote of confidence in granting me the IP block exemption. Rest assured that I will make wise use of it and not abuse said right. — Holothurion (talk) 01:26, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for the quick protection at my talk page.&mdash; alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 01:12, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Unwarranted block
Please explain why you blocked User:194.80.246.1 for the reason "Continued abuse after block expired", when in fact only one edit was made after the block expired, which was a spelling correction. Cheesemaster2000 (talk) 20:41, 6 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Because there is checkuser evidence involved. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 20:44, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * So why is it necessary to block the IP address instead of just whatever accounts are involved? How does it in any way stop registered users from vandalising? All you've done is stop legitimate editors from being able to contribute. Cheesemaster2000 (talk) 02:03, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) It prevents them from re-registering from that IP address/keep abusing the IP address
 * 2) Blocking the accounts only isn't blocking the source the of the abuse. This also ties in with #1
 * 3) To prevent further disruption from the encyclopedia, it is sometimes necessary to block the IP(s) to prevent further abuse. This IP has a long history of abuse as you can see from the block log. This is supported by CheckUser.
 * 4) Legitimate editors who wish to contribute constructively are given instructions how to edit. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 02:12, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

More revdeletion
I was unable to remove the content in this, so everything between these revisions must be summarily removed as well.Jasper Deng (talk) 01:56, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, you did it as I was writing this. Thanks for the quick action!Jasper Deng (talk) 01:56, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 01:57, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Rev Deletion
Hi, can you delete the versions made by the IP. They have abused the actor in Tamil language. -- Commander (Ping Me) 11:32, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * ✅. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 12:01, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * It's good to delete all the revisions made by that IP as all are purely disruptive edits. -- Commander (Ping Me) 13:14, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Thought you just meant that one version (was assuming the "versions" was a typo). I revdeleted the other one. The 3rd edit is the same as the edit you made to the article, so I didn't touch that. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 16:32, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Old chums
Special:Contributions/DerFreischutz, familiar? Also, global. Again. Ridiculous. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 00:56, 13 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I ran a check earlier. Looks technically . I'm keeping an eye out. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 00:58, 13 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Even if the CU is unlikely, I think it's a massive quack. A new user is changing the background images of templates, something I couldn't do for awhile, and is doing this as first edits. This new user is also doing it over multiple languages of templates, reminiscent of previous Satt 2 accounts. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 01:32, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I also thought it looked a bit like Satt 2; I agree that the four edits could not have been made by a new user. Mathsci (talk) 02:00, 13 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I definitely agree with you guys that it's definitely quacking. But, after reviewing some of the global contribs, some of them make me a little doubtful. The moment the account starts editing Georgian articles, I'll consider an immediate block. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 00:16, 14 November 2011 (UTC)


 * After another review, I'm confident in saying that they're ❌. Could be meat though<b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 00:44, 14 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Alternatively, the user may have moved locations due to shifting campuses or finishing a course or something. How do the global contributions make you more doubtful? Chipmunkdavis (talk) 01:32, 14 November 2011 (UTC)


 * He edited logged out today and also edited on the November 10th it seems. DerFreischutz's location is about 650 km from Satt 2's location. I'm a bit doubtful that he decided to travel during the school week. He usually sticks to here, Commons, Georgian or Russian wiki. The edits to the other wikis like nlwiktionary or cdowiki that quickly I've never seen him do. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 01:41, 14 November 2011 (UTC)


 * You somehow must have missed the accounts where they went through what seemed like every language wiki and changed their Georgia maps to the map showing Georgia in Europe. As far as I know that never even was undone, so they may have won a pointy battle there. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 02:27, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

I was mainly focusing on the every language aspect. Hopefully though it's just a one day account. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 02:32, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
-- DQ  (t)   (e)  15:15, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

User:ChocolateWolf
Looking through the archive for the SPI on Shakinglord, I see someone unblocked this account per a good faith assumption. I would say at this point that this was almost certainly not a good faith account. Should this account go as well? Calabe1992 03:10, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, User:Shakinglord's userpage is still untouched, should probably be marked. Calabe1992 03:12, 16 November 2011 (UTC)


 * The account hasn't been editing since it's block. So I'll keep on eye on for now if you don't mind. Also tagged. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 03:13, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Good enough. Thanks for following-up. Calabe1992 03:15, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Notice
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Unnessecary deletion of redirects. Thank you. Calabe1992 17:38, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Grawp email
I think this is related to Grawp, could you take a look at the account ? Thanks, <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap"> nableezy  - 19:11, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, that would be User:JarlaxleArtemis. Blocked.  NawlinWiki (talk) 19:36, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yup, that's him. Unsurprisingly, it's editing through an open proxy. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 21:25, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Rangeblock request
I have requested a rangeblock at AIV and AN, and am asking for you opinion on this since you've made a few good recent rangeblocks.Jasper Deng (talk) 04:05, 17 November 2011 (UTC)


 * There's only one IP editing from that range. I need two IPs, preferably more. Do you mind telling me who the banned user is? <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 04:10, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * - ban discussion here.Jasper Deng (talk) 04:11, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Based on the SPI archives, it doesn't seem like he/she is staying on one particular range. I'll gather some more data and see what I can do. I think MuZemike is also looking at the problem. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 04:16, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks! If you need me to protect your talk page, please feel free to ask. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 00:12, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Since the personal attacks by Yourname occurred almost immediately after my talk page was unprotected, can you please protect it again? Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 00:59, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 01:00, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It's useful to make an IP talk page like I did (User talk:Jasper Deng/Nonconfirmed) in order to divert this nonsense off your main talk page, thus sparing yourself a whole lot of annoying yellow "You have new messages" boxes.Jasper Deng (talk) 01:02, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Access denied from all our university servers
Dear Elockid,

I am a member of the creative writing faculty at University of Roehampton in south-west London. I teach a course called "Publishing for the Internet".

I am getting in touch because your name appears in a message that both myself and my students are receiving, when we try to edit anything on Wikipedia, from a computer on the university campus. For example, one student received the message:

Editing from 194.80.246.1 has been disabled by Elockid for the following reason(s): CheckUser evidence has determined that the IP address or network of your account has been used, not necessarily by you, to disrupt Wikipedia. It has been blocked from editing to prevent further abuse.

I can understand why Wikipedia wants to prevent abuse. But is it necessary to block any and all servers from the entire university? Many of our students do not have internet access at home and depend on their university access.

I look forward to hearing from you,

Regards, Susan Greenberg Senior Lecturer Department of English and Creative Writing University of Roehampton 80 ROehampton Lane London SW15 5PH s.greenberg@roehampton.ac.uk Editing56 (talk) 12:58, 19 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Email sent. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 01:08, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Is this anyone we know?
Could you check this for me? Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 17:45, 19 November 2011 (UTC)


 * That's JtV. Looks like Alison took care of the sleepers. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 00:53, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

68.57.42.31
May you please remove talk page access for this IP?Jasper Deng (talk) 04:49, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I think you unchecked the wrong box.Jasper Deng (talk) 04:52, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * But thanks for the quick job!Jasper Deng (talk) 04:53, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Should be good now. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 04:55, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

My edits
Why you keep undoing my edits? Is there something wrong with your automated bot account? 116.48.84.188 (talk) 18:32, 26 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Because you're banned. That's not a bot btw. I have a way of quickly making edits manually. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 18:34, 26 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Why am I banned? I found no clue why you first striked out my edits, then you undid my edits. What had happened? I don't think that's friendly. 116.48.84.188 (talk) 18:39, 26 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Try this. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 18:40, 26 November 2011 (UTC)


 * What is that? 116.48.84.188 (talk) 18:43, 26 November 2011 (UTC)


 * A list of your block and bans while you edited previously as . You can also find relevant information at Sockpuppet investigations/Instantnood/Archive. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 18:47, 26 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Why are you saying that I edited as Instantnood? Who is that? 116.48.84.188 (talk) 19:31, 26 November 2011 (UTC)


 * A comparison with the evidence from the SPI case (link above) pretty much summarizes it. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 19:38, 26 November 2011 (UTC)


 * What do you mean? 116.48.84.188 (talk) 19:44, 26 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Comparing your edits with the evidence from the SPI shows the connection. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 19:54, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Hope you don't mind, I'll keep contact with you on your talk. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 20:30, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd prefer keeping the dialogue at the same place. 116.48.84.188 (talk) 04:32, 27 November 2011 (UTC)


 * FYI, this page may be protected sometimes in response to vandalism. But please look at the SPI and compare. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#AD1C24;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 18:28, 4 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I am editing behind a Hong Kong IP address, and my view is shared with quite many Hong Kong Wikipedians editing with accounts or as IPs. It's ridiculous to conclude I am a sockpuppet just because of my views and positions. You many perhaps want to invite a Hong Kong administrators to review it. 116.48.84.188 (talk) 15:54, 5 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Know of any? I could invite since he/she knows all about your edits. My conclusions are not based on your views or positions. They are based on technical data (non-CU related) and behavioral evidence as presented in the SPI. You might want to come up with a better explanation of "there are people who share the same views as I" because that is not a good enough explanation for other admins. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#AD1C24;">Elockid (Alternate)</b> ( Talk )  16:10, 5 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Behavioural evidence is far from objective and concrete, and I don't know there was any technical data ever presented. You are effectively declaring that Hongkongers are not welcome on Wikipedia, and their views have to be suppressed. 116.48.84.188 (talk) 07:37, 9 December 2011 (UTC)


 * No technical data ever presented? Hardly. Here's some that are readily available: example 1, and example 2, and example 3. Same article field, same location, same ISP, same ranges, and experiencing striking behavioral similarities and familiarity with Wikipedia. You're basically saying is that all or the majority of Hong Kongers edit the same pages, experience the same edit, etc. as you do which is not true. If you really think that the behavioral evidence is far from concrete, then we can take it to SPI/ask the clerks for a second or higher opinion. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#AD1C24;">Elockid</b>   ( Talk ) 22:14, 9 December 2011 (UTC)


 * There are just a handful of ISPs in HK, and of which two or three are dominating the entire market. This is the reason why so many edits come from the same location and the same IP ranges. I'm not the only victim as a result of excessive blocks of HK's IP ranges. Behavioural similiarites is subjective, and familiarity with Wikipedia can be cultivated from other Wikipedia language versions, or even other mediawiki projects. 116.48.84.188 (talk) 12:08, 10 December 2011 (UTC)


 * There are other places similar places like Singapore. Speaking of Singapore, from what I've seen, it's busier than HK. It's not that hard to distinguish who's making the edits even though there is a large amount of edits present in a range. You also seem to be suggesting that you have experience in other Wikis. Please list them and with links. What about my suggestion about SPI or other people who are familiar with the case? <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#AD1C24;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 22:36, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

User:Bonowatcher
Caught part of this on ANI and then in the AIV block log ... the user is posting defamatory statements on their talk page, so it looks like time to revoke talk-page access, maybe. -- McDoob AU  93  03:16, 28 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Revoked and deleted. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#AD1C24;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 03:20, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Brand newbie and saw you posting on one of the noticeboards. Hoped you might be able to grace my talk page with one of the templates full of links to the pillars and policies..UnbelievableError (talk) 07:31, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you
Glad you noticed the request after I goofed and added it to an existing section. Thanks much.UnbelievableError (talk) 03:05, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

proxy?
Hey Elockid, I don't know much ("but I know I love you...") about proxies, but I am interested in this block. I don't know what prompted that block, which of the IP's edits triggered something, but if you check the history of Talk:Suicide methods, you'll find plenty of highly disruptive IP editing. Is your proxy among those IPs? Then block away. Or is this IP blocked for something totally unrelated? And should I go to geek school to learn these things? Thanks, Drmies (talk) 02:00, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I was investigating some possible socking in that page. An AIV or ANI report (can't remember which) prompted me to investigate. I usually check to see if the IPs are OPs or not during a sock investigation. If you do a simple Google search on 61.6.241.9, you'll see some good results. Google searching is a good place to start. This is also a good place to start: WikiProject on open proxies/Guide to checking open proxies. There are a few OPs editing that page which I've now blocked. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#AD1C24;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 02:34, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, I need to go to geek class, that's obvious. Lady, I hope you're reading over my shoulder. Thanks for your help, Elockid! Drmies (talk) 03:34, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Wow, that's mass slaughter. Well done; thanks again. Drmies (talk) 03:35, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but I'm going to have to leave it to the experts... Drmies (talk) 03:50, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Elockid. I'll have to look at that guide when I'm more awake. Lady  of  Shalott  03:54, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#AD1C24;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 16:42, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Realhistorybuff
looks like Realhistorybuff. Same areas of interest plus obsession with Angus Maddison. (Also someone similar has been mailing indian wikipedians recently about you and Fowler "thwarting real indian history"). Can you check.--Sodabottle (talk) 09:58, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't do a check but that's definitely him without a doubt. I'm going to IAR on this one and just blocked it to save everyone time. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#AD1C24;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 13:33, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Another one has appeared.--Sodabottle (talk) 10:38, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the report and gone. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#AD1C24;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 13:17, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, E, I'd asked Sodabottle to follow up with you on this one as I'm "involved". BTW, since he's so active, is a rangeblock feasible? &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  19:31, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Took care of it. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#AD1C24;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 02:11, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Semi-protection
Hi Elockid, List of most populous cities in India and List of most populous metropolitan areas in India needs to be semi-protected. It would be nice, if they are protected till the official release of final figures. &mdash; Commander (Ping me) 12:17, 5 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, sure. I'll do it when I get back on my main account. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#AD1C24;">Elockid (Alternate)</b> ( Talk ) 15:40, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Invitation to take part in Wikipedia research
Hello,

I am doing research on Wikipedia in multiple languages to see how different Wikipedia websites enable people differently to act and contribute in their ways. A brief description of the study can be found on our project page on Meta-Wiki. The results would give guidelines for further development of Wikipedia in less developed languages.

As an active member of Wikipedia community, you are invited to take part in the study and share your experience about and understanding of Wikipedia with us. It would take 30 to 60 minutes of your time to have an online conversation about Wikipedia. I would be delighted to hear any of your ideas or feedback about the study. Please feel free to contact me with your questions and concerns related to this study and your participation. You can also find the email address on the project page. Happy Christmas :) --WikiTafa (talk) 01:48, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Twitter status message Template
This is a template to generate a direct link to the Twitter status message. You can use this template to navigate directly to the Tweet or to refer someone directly to any Tweet in your wiki. You can use this template freely wherever you need to refer any tweets/twitter users of Twitter for your external references or some other places. --Jenith Michael Raj ( talk ) 06:27, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Twitter_status

Proxy revisited
Hi Elockid, I'm not smart enough, but you are. Help me out here please: this IP edits the same way as this one and this one and this one and this one and possibly this one (which I'm blocking right now) and this one and this one (which I just blocked) and especially this one. I am sure I could go on. You may say open proxy and block 'em for six months or a year; would you? Alternately, can I call it IP hopping vandalism per duck test and block the lot of 'em--but then, probably not for that length of time, no? Let me know. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 16:51, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Here's another (current) one.


 * The 101.108 IPs don't appear to be proxies. But it looks like there could be a rangeblock placed (haven't checked the collateral yet though). Do you mind if I ask a second opinion for the rest? I would say that you could call it IP hopping vandalism per the duck test (or meat depending on the circumstances) and play whack-a-mole with a shorter duration. Sometimes whack-a-mole is really advantageous for us. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#AD1C24;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 22:33, 9 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Blocked/modified a few. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#AD1C24;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 22:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Ledenierhomme
Hello Elockid. is back once again, see, and. Could you look into a rangeblock? <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap"> nableezy  - 14:37, 15 December 2011 (UTC)


 * ✅: rangeblocked. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#AD1C24;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 22:24, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Sockpuppet returns
Hello Elockid, I hope you're doing fine. Can you please take a look at this? . Yet another sockpuppet of Corticopia, that was inactive for some time, returned to edit war with other users. The username in question is "Corticopious". It is obvious that he's the same person not just because of the obvious name, but because that account was created to edit war with myself years ago. Thought it was abandoned but today I received a help request. Can you help please? As you know, he's a blocked user that has systematically abused Wikipedia in several ways since as early as 2006 (that I know of). I think it is time to stop this destructive and disruptive behaviour, since it is very obvious that he has not learned the lesson. Thank you. Very frustrated,  Alex Covarrubias  <sup style="font-size:x-small; color:green;">( Talk? )  03:31, 17 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Definitely looks like a duck. Unfortunately, the account is at Commons and it's not registered here. So I can't really do anything here. Have you tried contacting a Commons admin? <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#AD1C24;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 14:17, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Hello Elockid. No, I haven't tried to contact a Commons admin. I am really not very used to that site, I was hoping that you could contact one and explain how that user is a banned user for multiple violations of Wikipedia's rules. I hope you can help me out in a admin to admin kind of way.  Alex Covarrubias  <sup style="font-size:x-small; color:green;">( Talk? )  06:12, 19 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll try and contacting the commons admins when I go to IRC. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#AD1C24;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 13:33, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Your userpage
Hey Elockid, just stopped by to say you have a great userpage. I hope you have a merry Christmas and Happy New from a fellow Wikipedian. --   Luke      (Talk)   23:53, 22 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Tyvm. :) <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#AD1C24;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 14:15, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Teach and Learn with Georgia
Hi Elockid,

First of all I'm new to Wikipedia, so apologies if this is a silly question.

I am a volunteer with the Teach and Learn with Georgia program. I just requested that a wikipedia article be created about it on the Requested articles/Applied arts and sciences page, and after following the resulting link came to a notice that the page had been previously deleted due to having been a violation of a block or ban.

I just wanted to verify with you that the article wasn't deleted on its own merits - that is, because the TLG program is not sufficiently notable or because there isn't enough information out there about the program. Because I work for TLG, I don't know if I should try to write the article myself, but before I pursue the matter I wanted to make sure I wasn't wasting my time on an issue that had already been decided.

Thank you for putting your time into keeping Wikipedia great!

Zupancic (talk) 09:09, 23 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Only deleted because the article was created by a banned user. There were no other reasons involved. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#AD1C24;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 14:17, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Template:Bagong Alyansang Makabayan/meta/shortname


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If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Bulwersator (talk) 15:39, 23 December 2011 (UTC)