User talk:Eloiseeyvette

Concerns about your edits at Cheb i Sabbah
Hello, I'm sure you meant well, but your recent edits at Cheb i Sabbah made the article notably worse, so I've gone to fix it. Importantly, you removed mention of his birth-name (why???), and you cut out several clearly and properly-footnoted sentences and just wrote whatever you thought of him without providing any references whatsoever.

Here is the link to the changes you made (I have since fixed them): http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cheb_i_Sabbah&diff=558321754&oldid=558046340

Why did you remove good material like that? Information from outside sources is more helpful than just quoting his own page, since it gives us the value of neutral perspective. MatthewVanitas (talk) 17:46, 7 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Greetings Matthew, I'm new at editing, I'm still working on fixing the edits and the errors. These edits are based DIRECTLY on Cheb i Sabbah's wishes...not what others wish to say. His birth name included (which by the way may be cited but is INCORRECT and in fact is not his birthname)....Thanks for the patience, respect and understanding. i.e....Category: American Jew..he is NOT an american jew and does not wish to be categorized as such. I'm currently working on linking what I have posted and more..if you know a quick reference on linking..i appreciate the help otherwise it's a work in progress. Thanks!


 * Not a problem, these things take practise. Regarding his birthname: we have media articles that say that is his birthname. What evidence do we have that this is not his birthname? If there is no more authoritative evidence saying "his birthname is XYZ" we have to defer to reliable sources. Similarly, in at least one interview he specifically identifies himself as Jewish, so how is this inaccurate? Maybe "American Jewish" is not, but some other category of Jewish identity perhaps?


 * One important thing, please be sure to use the WP:Edit summary box each time you save an edit. That way people won't have to guess your intentions. If you remove the birthname and leave no edit summary (the little box below the editing window) someone might mistake your edits as vandalism. If instead you summarise "Checked www.example.com and it says there his birthname is Joe Johnson, so removing old name as inaccurate" then we all know what you changed and why, so it's clearer for everyone. How does this sound? MatthewVanitas (talk) 18:44, 7 June 2013 (UTC)