User talk:Els3000

September 2023
Welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits to Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, it appears that you have added original research, which is against Wikipedia's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. Thank you. AntiDionysius (talk) 20:30, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. AntiDionysius (talk) 20:52, 27 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Hey, my addition was sourced, you had to go to the sixth frame to the right. https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/space/exclusive-look-sbirs-its-capabilities Els3000 (talk) 21:40, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't know how to specifically cite the sixth caption, can you help me? I didn't add any novel syntheses that I can recall. I just reported the Quote from the webpage. Els3000 (talk) 21:41, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I screenshot the page here but figure it is better to use the original page https://imgur.com/a/vQ8WWO3 Els3000 (talk) 21:42, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I saw that, yes. But the source only says that the satellites were used to assist in looking for the plane; it does not say the plane was found, nor does it say that discovery remains classified, nor does it speculate about why that classification might have occurred. AntiDionysius (talk) 21:43, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
 * So if you wanted to add a passage merely about how the satellites were used in the search: absolutely feel free; that is an interesting and worthwhile addition. But all the stuff beyond that is a WP:NOR issue. AntiDionysius (talk) 21:44, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh thanks for clarifying. It says "helped solve". For me that implies the mystery is solved. That doesn't mean that the plane wreckage was found.
 * Don't you think it is safe to infer that whatever was "solved" remains classified?
 * I'll attempt a more careful version. Els3000 (talk) 22:44, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, just want to mention this is my first ever wikipedia edit, learning on the go. Els3000 (talk) 22:48, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Of course, we're all always learning. You may find it easier to start off with something more straightforward, less contentious, and less wrapped up in multiple Wikipedia policies, and thereby gain experience; that's what I did. But it is up to you how you'd like to contribute, of course. AntiDionysius (talk) 22:52, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't think it implies that. I think it's badly phrased for sure, but ambiguous language in a throwaway line in an unrelated article is not sufficient to make a huge, controversial claim like "the government actually knows what happened to the missing plane". And no, we can't make big inferences like that either, that's a big plank of the No Original Research policy. AntiDionysius (talk) 22:49, 27 September 2023 (UTC)