User talk:Elsiemobbs

Archiving
Please be careful in keeping your talk archives within your own userspace. i.e. under User:Elsiemobbs/ or User talk:Elsiemobbs/ at all times. I've moved your archives back to User talk:Elsiemobbs/Archive 1. Cheers,  Netsnipe  (Talk)  17:40, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Whoops, I took Freud and Newman out of the references for Freudian oral stage. Anybody out there who knows how to put refs 1 and 2 back?

RE:Thumbsucking has not been previously and adequately explained
You sent your reply to the wrong person. It was, not I. --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  18:48, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Human imprinting
Human Imprinting stub has been deleted. Any chance of help with an undeletion? Human Imprinting is such important information for mothers who want to breastfeed as they can then better direct the newborn behaviour in a helpful way. Freud, Piaget and Lorenz did not quite get it quite right because they have never had the 24/7/365 care of the newborn. Give mums some help if you can. ElsiemobbsElsiemobbs 16:12, 27 August 2006 (UTC)


 * The subject is notable, but your approach has been wrong. If I remember correctly you were citing from your own masters thesis rather than from papers published in peer-reviewed journals. We take No original research very seriously around here because of the conflict of interest problem inherent in basing an encyclopedia entirely on what you believe is to be fact instead of say a commonly held view in the scientific community. Some of the other editors on Articles for Deletion review also interpreted your article as vanity for increasing your exposure/reputation as a researcher through Wikipedia. If you wish to rewrite your article, I suggest that do so with the neutral point of view policy in mind. Make sure you cite 3rd party reliable sources and offer alternative views or theories apart from yours. Finally, don't recreate your article in the main encyclopedia. Start and work on it at User:Elsiemobbs/Human imprinting (anything under User:Elsiemobbs/ is your personal space and won't be deleted). From time to time get other editors to review it or submit it to Peer review and when you think it's a real encyclopedia article, you can then move it back into the encyclopedia proper. Good luck,  Netsnipe  (Talk)  16:37, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Your considered reply was very much appreciated. Unfortunately I am the first person to put forward the evidence and I would have to quote people quoting me! Apart from Freud, Piaget (who tied his infant's hands to the cot to stop thumbsucking) and Lorenz, there is just no orginal work other than my own. Karger (Switzerland) published my PhD on male short stature in full (worldwide distribution) so I'll approach them to look at my Masters as well. If I can give a better explanation than 3 Noble prize winners then it should eventually get noticed. Wish me luck. ElsiemobbsElsiemobbs 11:56, 28 August 2006 (UTC) Thumbsucking and Dummysucking: Evidence for human imprinting. by Elsie Mobbs ISBN 9780646470832 $15 AUD post free —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.170.49.157 (talk) 02:48, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Minor edit checkbox
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Thumb sucking
Welcome back. I can see that you're trying to add more information to the thumb sucking article. As you know, we require everything to be referenced with verifiable sources. Would you be able to provide a link to the actual essay (Australian and New Zealand Journal of Psychiatry (2007) 41 (Supp.2) Page:A351) online somewhere so that we can be sure that this was really published? Without it, there isn't really a good justification for leaving your original writing there, let alone adding new information. I tried looking for it in my university's library but they didn't seem to have it available. Please reply and if you have any questions you can talk to me on my talk page. Soap Talk/Contributions 02:59, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Just a note that I do have access to these journals, which causes you several problems. Firstly, you're citing yourself. Secondly, the thing you're citing completely fails WP:RS; it isn't a peer-reviewed journal article, it's an account of an oral presentation you made at the 2007 Psychiatric Congress. I think you can understand why the second one, particularly, is a problem - you're presenting facts as coming from a peer-reviewed journal article, when they're not. Please make sure to follow WP:RS and, if you're going for academic journals, cite peer reviewed things. Ironholds (talk) 23:24, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

At conferences one looks for arguments against "Human Imprinting" but none have yet been found. Some of the conferences at which it has been presented are: Department of Obstetrics & Gynaecology Clinical Program, Westmead Hospital, Australia 8/2/1989; Australian Scty for the Psychosomatic Aspects of Reproductive Medicine 16th Annual Conference, Australia Mch 1989; Australian Perinatal Scty 7th Congress Adelaide Australia 5/10/1989; X11 European Congress of Perinatal Medicine Lyon France 11-14/9/1990; Silver Jubilee Conference Australian Psychological Scty, Melbourne Australia 23-28/9/1990; Inservice meeting The Nepean Hospital Penrith Australia 11/10/1990; The Federation of the Asia-Oceanic Perinatal Societies 6th Congress Perth 26/10/1990; Scty for Reproductive and Infant Psychology Annual Conference Durham UK 25/9/1991; XXV International Congress of Psychology Brussels, Belgium 1994; Australian Lactation Consultants Assoc Breastfeeding General Practice and the Community Conference Westmead Hospital Australia, 12/7/1997; Australian Lactation Consultants Assoc 7th Biennial Conference Parramatta Australia, 18-22/9/1994; and I'll add more conference past presentations when I find time to update. Being a proposal based on logic and a paradigm shift of a different explanation of the same evidence, it is much easier to present showing how evidence is available demonstrating each mammal fixating on a sucking object when deprived of the maternal nipple - I don't know that carrying out another Harlow experiment would be an ethically acceptable strategy. However I have just found a publisher interested in a referenced book so will start work on it very soon. Elsie Mobbs RN RM BSc DipEd MStud Psychol MA PhD(Syd) 9/9/2009. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.170.41.70 (talk) 12:26, 9 September 2009 (UTC)