User talk:EmadAghelmaleki

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Speedy deletion nomination of Michel Sicard


A tag has been placed on Michel Sicard, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a foreign language article that was copied and pasted from another Wikimedia project, or was transwikied out to another project. Please see Translation to learn about requests for, and coordination of, translations from foreign-language Wikipedias into English.

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 * This is the English Wikipedia. Please translate your article into English; unless translated it will be deleted, whatever its other merits may be. --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 20:53, 24 August 2013 (UTC)


 * For reasons connected with licensing and attribution, we cannot accept articles copy/pasted from another Wikipedia. Please see Translation for how to request translation into English.


 * From a first look, it seems to me that this article will need considerable work before being acceptable, and it may be sensible to wait for translation until it has been edited, developed and accepted on the French Wikipedia. Areas of concern seem to me:
 * Lack of cited sources for the statements made - see WP:Verifiability: "any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable, published source", fr:Wikipédia:Vérifiabilité: "toute affirmation contestée ou susceptible de l'être doit être explicitement attribuée à une publication de qualité"; also WP:No original research, fr:Wikipédia:Travaux inédits.
 * Promotional tone - see WP:Neutral point of view, fr:Wikipédia:Neutralité de point de vue
 * An unencyclopedic level of detail, more appropriate for the artist's own website than for a general encyclopedia.
 * There is good advice on how to write an acceptable article at WP:Your first article; I am sure there is an equivalent on the French Wikipedia, but I do not have a reference for it. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:35, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Michel Sicard
Bonjour EmadAghelmaleki. J'ai supprimé la page une deuxième fois, parce-qu'elle existe déjà dans la wikipédie francophone. Si vous croyez qu'il soit possible de trouver assez de sources dans des publications indépendentes, vous pouvez la recréer ici, mais il sera nécessaire de la recréer en anglais. Je suggère le faire ici, dans votre espace privée d'expérimentation, pour pouvoir y travailler sans risque qu'elle soit supprimée prématurement. Prière de m'excuser mon mauvais français!

EmadAghelmaleki: I have deleted this page a second time, because it already exists on the French-language Wikipedia. If you believe it is possible to find enough sources in independent publications, you can recreate it here, but you need to do so in English. I suggest doing so here, as a draft in your userspace, so that you can work on it without having it prematurely deleted. Please excuse my bad French! Yngvadottir (talk) 04:21, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Bonjour Yngvadottir. Well I don't understand, what should i do to have the page in both english and french wikipedia? Is there anyone in Wiki that can help me to fix it, I am very new to this environment. Thank you --95.80.43.248 (talk) 09:31, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Bonjour EmadAghelmaleki: You must write it in English (it can be very short) and have references to reliable sources. Note that the article on French Wikipedia has a notice at the top linking to the policy in French: fr:Wikipédia:Citez vos sources. You must demonstrate that multiple independent sources (such as newspapers and books) have written about him. Also notice the first point in the template that was put on your talk page at French Wikipedia: "encyclopédisme et vérifiabilité (s'appuyer sur des sources reconnues)." Since you understand French better than English, I suggest you also ask for help there; they have given you links for that as well as for information. (And your article is at risk on French Wikipedia; it has a lot of critical templates on it.) On English Wikipedia, click the red link I gave you above, or click here: User:EmadAghelmaleki/Michel Sicard (they go to the same place). Make your article there, in English, with references. (You can write it in French and then change it to English in that space if you like.) Feel free to ask for help making it better. When it's good enough, it can be moved to mainspace. Do you understand this? If not, I can repeat it in bad French :-) I can also give you the same kind of welcome template here, but it will be the same kind of information as the French one, only all in English. Yngvadottir (talk) 12:24, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Yngvadottir, I just understand English, and the article is made by Michel Sicard but since he has no idea how to do that I accept to help him. Therefore I don't understand french, I just use google translate and submit the article. I need someone to help me since I dont know how to use templates and so on. So now what is your suggestion about it ? Thanks Br --EmadAghelmaleki (talk) 18:09, 25 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Hmm, I'm not sure I fully understand this but M. Sicard needs to realize that a Wikipedia article is not like a professional listing; he can only have one if there are multiple independent sources talking about him at some length, and it should only cover the basic information about his life and career (basically what the sources have said). So, for example, not the long list of his publications and exhibits - just a selected list. And it has to be written neutrally. Therefore we strongly discourage people from writing about themselves - it's almost impossible for them to do it objectively enough. If you want to write an article about him, use that link I've given you and write just a basic account of the facts. Cite the independent sources that exist; they can always be formatted later. Then there are a number of places you can ask for help, starting with here. Alternatively, create the article using WP:Articles for creation, which is a project where (mostly new) editors submit an article to be critiqued, and when it is ready it is created for them. Either of those methods would ensure it would not get speedy deleted again, but you need to find out whether there are enough sources. The notability criteria specifically for writers and artists are here. Can he meet that standard? If so, I encourage you to go ahead and write a short article in either of those two places, but with sources - not just statements by him. Yngvadottir (talk) 18:30, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Looking at Google and talking to some other editors, I think he may meet the standard for academics, so you should look at that too: WP:PROF. Yngvadottir (talk) 04:23, 26 August 2013 (UTC)