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VisualEditor newsletter—July and August 2014
''The VisualEditor team is currently working mostly to fix bugs, improve performance, reduce technical debt, and other infrastructure needs. You can find on Mediawiki.org weekly updates detailing recent work.'' VisualEditor - Link editing inline box.png.

The user guide is also being updated.
 * alt=Screenshot of VisualEditor's link tool|240px]]

The biggest visible change since the last newsletter was to the dialog boxes. The design for each dialog box and window was simplified. The most commonly needed buttons are now at the top. Based on user feedback, the buttons are now labeled with simple words (like "Cancel" or "Done") instead of potentially confusing icons (like "<" or "X"). Many of the buttons to edit links, images, and other items now also show the linked page, image name, or other useful information when you click on them.
 * Hidden HTML comments (notes visible to editors, but not to readers) can now be read, edited, inserted, and removed. A small icon (a white exclamation mark on a dot) marks the location of each comments.  You can click on the icon to see the comment.
 * You can now drag and drop text and templates as well as images. A new placement line makes it much easier to see where you are dropping the item.  Images can no longer be dropped into the middle of paragraphs.
 * All references and footnotes (  tags) are now made through the "" menu, including the "" (manual formatting) footnotes and the ability to re-use an existing citation, both of which were previously accessible only through the "" menu. The "" is still added via the "" menu.
 * When you add an image or other media file, you are now prompted to add an image caption immediately. You can also replace an image whilst keeping the original caption and other settings.
 * All tablet users visiting the mobile web version of Wikipedias will be able to opt-in to a version of VisualEditor from 14 August. You can test the new tool by choosing the beta version of the mobile view in the Settings menu.
 * The link tool has a new "Open" button that will open a linked page in another tab so you can make sure a link is the right one.
 * The "Cancel" button in the toolbar has been removed based on user testing. To cancel any edit, you can leave the page by clicking the Read tab, the back button in your browser, or closing the browser window without saving your changes.

Looking ahead
The team posts details about planned work on the VisualEditor roadmap. The VisualEditor team plans to add auto-fill features for citations soon. Your ideas about making referencing quick and easy are still wanted. Support for upright image sizes is being developed. The designers are also working on support for adding rows and columns to tables. Work to support Internet Explorer is ongoing.

Feedback opportunities
The Editing team will be making two presentations this weekend at Wikimania in London. The first is with product manager James Forrester and developer Trevor Parscal on Saturday at 16:30. The second is with developers Roan Kattouw and Trevor Parscal on Sunday at 12:30.

Please share your questions, suggestions, or problems by posting a note at the VisualEditor feedback page or by joining the office hours discussion on Thursday, 14 August 2014 at 09:00 UTC (daytime for Europe, Middle East and Asia) or on Thursday, 18 September 2014 at 16:00 UTC (daytime for the Americas; evening for Europe).

If you'd like to get this newsletter on your own page (about once a month), please subscribe at w:en:Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Newsletter for English Wikipedia only or at Meta for any project. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:14, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Jalpaiguri
Yay!

I was wondering when the 'cavalry' would arrive! . Unfortunately, now the socking starts as  reverts you!--220  of  Borg 08:42, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Thus, we revert. And revert. And do not violate 3RR. Eman 235 / talk  08:44, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Trying to avoid that. I don't think this is a content dispute, the edits are overly promotional per wp:NOT (I hope :-\, Coming up on 5 years editing (including as an IP) with nary a block! ) The user has also been blanking content at North Bengal, and pasting it into 'new' pages.
 * Note that the username is the same as the towns supposed Mayor, so possibly a bit of COI. --220  of  Borg 09:04, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah... Eman 235 / talk  09:05, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I've gone for a wp:RFPP--220  of  Borg 09:20, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Profile Thingy
How'd you get that message to be displayed when someone goes to edit your profile? Thanks! ≺ Joseph Hawk ≻ 15:28, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Hahaha, you saw it? It's at User:Eman235/Editnotice. You would put one at User:JosephHawk/Editnotice.
 * The usual editnotice for userpage is, but I was experimenting with templates and such at the time when I made it. I've also got one for this page, at User talk:Eman235/Editnotice.
 * *bad cop stare* what were you doing in my userpage anyway? haha. Eman 235 / talk  00:00, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much! And... uh, no reason. ;) ≺ Joseph Hawk ≻ 02:54, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

B_Verkin_Institute_for_Low_Temperature_Physics_and_Engineering
Jeez man, give me a few minutes before you nuke the page Lolz. I'm in the middle of building B_Verkin_Institute_for_Low_Temperature_Physics_and_Engineering. We had 5 articles redlinking it, all trying to use different spellings. I unified those links. I saw another half dozen articles mentioning it, that could be linking it. I decided to pull over the Russian Wikipedia copy of the article. How about you pull off the deletion tag and check back in an hour or two? Alsee (talk) 06:30, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Nice thing about PROD -- If you disagree, remove the tag. Maybe I was a bit hasty. Sorry! Eman 235 / talk  06:33, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanx, and no problem. You tagged it 12 minutes after creation :D
 * Anywho, I've got the lede pulled over if you want to glance at how it's going. Alsee (talk) 06:43, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
 * And now I added a refs section. "Haste makes waste." Eman 235 / talk  06:45, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Hooray! You created your Teahouse profile!
Hooray! You created your Teahouse profile!


 * Eman 235 / talk 20:32, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter—September and October 2014
Did you know? TemplateData is a separate program that organizes information about the parameters that can be used in a template. VisualEditor reads that data, and uses it to populate its simplified template dialogs.

With the new TemplateData editor, it is easier to add information about parameters, because the ones you need to use are pre-loaded.

See the help page for TemplateData for more information about adding TemplateData. The user guide has information about how to use VisualEditor. Since the last newsletter, the Editing team has reduced technical debt, simplified some workflows for template and citation editing, made major progress on Internet Explorer support, and fixed over 125 bugs and requests. Several performance improvements were made, especially to the system around re-using references and reference lists. Weekly updates are posted on Mediawiki.org.

There were three issues that required urgent fixes: a deployment error that meant that many buttons didn't work correctly (bugs 69856 and 69864), a problem with edit conflicts that left the editor with nowhere to go (bug 69150), and a problem in Internet Explorer 11 that caused replaced some categories with a link to the system message, MediaWiki:Badtitletext (bug 70894) when you saved. The developers apologize for the disruption, and thank the people who reported these problems quickly.

Increased support for devices and browsers
Internet Explorer 10 and 11 users now have access to VisualEditor. This means that about 5% of Wikimedia's users will now get an "Edit" tab alongside the existing "Edit source" tab. Support for Internet Explorer 9 is planned for the future.

Tablet users browsing the site's mobile mode now have the option of using a mobile-specific form of VisualEditor. More editing tools, and availability of VisualEditor on smartphones, is planned for the future. The mobile version of VisualEditor was tweaked to show the context menu for citations instead of basic references (bug 68897). A bug that broke the editor in iOS was corrected and released early (bug 68949). For mobile tablet users, three bugs related to scrolling were fixed (bug 66697, bug 68828, bug 69630). You can use VisualEditor on the mobile version of Wikipedia from your tablet by clicking on the cog in the top-right when editing a page and choosing which editor to use.

TemplateData editor
A tool for editing TemplateData will be deployed to more Wikipedias soon. Other Wikipedias and some other projects may receive access next month. This tool makes it easier to add TemplateData to the template's documentation. When the tool is enabled, it will add a button above every editing window for a template (including documentation subpages). To use it, edit the template or a subpage, and then click the "" button at the top. Read the help page for TemplateData. You can test the TemplateData editor in a sandbox at Mediawiki.org. Remember that TemplateData should be placed either on a documentation subpage or on the template page itself. Only one block of TemplateData will be used per template.

Other changes
Several interface messages and labels were changed to be simpler, clearer, or shorter, based on feedback from translators and editors. The formatting of dialogs was changed, and more changes to the appearance will be coming soon, when VisualEditor implements the new MediaWiki theme from Design. (A preview of the theme is available on Labs for developers.) The team also made some improvements for users of the Monobook skin that improved the size of text in toolbars and fixed selections that overlapped menus.

VisualEditor-MediaWiki now supplies the or  class on links to redirects and disambiguation pages, so that user gadgets that colour in these in types of links can be created.

Templates' fields can be marked as ' required ' in TemplateData. If a parameter is marked as required, then you cannot delete that field when you add a new template or edit an existing one (bug 60358).

Language support improved by making annotations use bi-directional isolation (so they display correctly with cursoring behaviour as expected) and by fixing a bug that crashed VisualEditor when trying to edit a page with a attribute but no  set (bug 69955).

Looking ahead
The team posts details about planned work on the VisualEditor roadmap. The VisualEditor team plans to add auto-fill features for citations soon, perhaps in late October.

The team is also working on support for adding rows and columns to tables, and early work for this may appear within the month. Please comment on the design at Mediawiki.org.

In the future, real-time collaborative editing may be possible in VisualEditor. Some early preparatory work for this was recently done.

Supporting your wiki
At Wikimania, several developers gave presentations about VisualEditor. A translation sprint focused on improving access to VisualEditor was supported by many people. Deryck Chan was the top translator. Special honors also go to संजीव कुमार (Sanjeev Kumar), Robby, Takot, Bachounda, Bjankuloski06 and Ата. A summary of the work achieved by the translation community has been posted here. Thank you all for your work.

VisualEditor can be made available to most non-Wikipedia projects. If your community would like to test VisualEditor, please contact product manager James Forrester or file an enhancement request in Bugzilla.

Please join the office hours on Saturday, 18 October 2014 at 18:00 UTC (daytime for the Americas; evening for Africa and Europe) and on Wednesday, 19 November at 16:00 UTC on IRC.

''Give feedback on VisualEditor at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback. Subscribe or unsubscribe at Meta. To help with translations, please subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact Elitre at Meta. Thank you!''

— Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 00:11, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the info about signatures! Keep up the good work! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cartermassey (talk • contribs) 05:54, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Cartermassey! Just make sure you do sign on talk pages. Eman 235 / talk  06:53, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

ANNOYING pic title on Cello article
I often find it amusing when an editor tells me my title font for a pic is annoying...Want to know why I find it amusing? Here ya go, I have played for over 25 years, I guess you might consider me advanced, I competed locally, and a case of bad arthritis basically stopped me from competing. SO as fate would have it, I decided, WHY NOT put up an image of a cello with all of the basic parts labelled? I mean, when you go to german wiki, and read that cello article, they happen to have a picture as well of the cello with its parts listed....AND HERE IS THE KNEE SLAPPER, its a Good Article.....SO what I gather is your best editing shot is to correct the image lettering while I suppose the glaringly obvious ABSENCE of a picture of a cello with its parts listed, AND HAVE AN ACTUAL DISCUSSION about it being a "good" article is just too much to ask......THANK GOD you were there to point out my epic failure...MY FAILURE, was to believe that anyone, would be serious enough to write paragraph after paragraph in an encyclopedia and NOT have a diagram of the instrument with its parts labelled..... LUCKILY you were there to provide yet another nugget of wisdom about not liking the title font. Can you imagine how lost we all would have been? I CANT IMAGINE why people would not want to edit.......Possibly, maybe, its your annoying edit remarks when you cant see the fact that having an article about a musical instrument without its parts labelled is a jaw dropping lapse.....BUT WELL DONE ON YOUR PART....just a thought, in the future when you are in that edit mode, you COULD consider that while annoying, its better than IMAGINING THE PART NAMES...isnt it??? Coal town guy (talk) 02:07, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry. I just uncapitalized the caption, that's all. I do not object to a picture of a cello's parts, I find it highly useful. I do find it a bit annoying to have Captions Like This, but I shouldn't have said so. Again, I'm sorry if I offended you. Eman 235 / talk  05:23, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
 * My apologies as well.....I felt no offense, its just the sardonic generating environment, where any edit is important, and it is, but there are times when, yes, scale and scope matter as wellCoal town guy (talk) 13:28, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes. Not everything is the most important thing possible. Eman 235 / talk  22:21, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
 * LOL, totally appreciate the feeling and act.......I very much appreciate this dialog, there have been times when it has not been so, fruitful as it were.....Coal town guy (talk) 22:26, 14 October 2014 (UTC)