User talk:Emilfarb/2009

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As you may know, I'm doing an hard work to clean up the wikiproject maps. Facing the fact that the map conventions are spreading, I have to manage to ease the futur updates, and check the correctness [not vandalised] of the several duplicata tables, That's means that I will replace all know duplicata of the color table by a template {Wikipedia:WikiProject Maps/Conventions/Areas maps}. So, I look what is the most spread usage, and I apply it.

The mapcolor template have been smoothly use in WikiProject Indian maps, Manual of Style (diagrams and maps), WikiProject Pakistan/Cartography, as well as on fr:Projet:Cartographie/Recommandation/Carte_topographique, etc. for some time already and with some variations. I understand that this shape is accepted by a wide range of users.

From what I know, Wikipedia:WikiProject Maps is the only one to use a fully coded code.

If really need, this variation may be more to your taste. I also think this display may be interesting.

We have to act efficiently. Regards, Yug (talk)  09:53, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I do not mind at all if any style is used, as I already know, what are these colors. And not going to engage in an edit war of any sort. But I have to say, that if some person looks at this palette for the first time, he may feel a bit dizzy. The main reason is something unreadable by a normal person like #000000 being imposed over various colors. An newbie doesn't even know, what does this all mean. And an experienced editor doesn't need #000000 at all: he will look in the code, or simply pick the color with his favorite application. If this new palette is used somewhere, it doesn't mean it is any good. The previous one has bee voted on the talk page, by the way. I seriously recommend not to introduce any overlays of text on color. But I have no time fighting for it :-) Good luck! Emilfaro (talk) 10:12, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, I do my best to progress smoothly, but I also know that editing and changing things means get such small scale conflicts. This is wiki. O.o Here, the best solution I see is to pick up this variation, which should be an acceptable compromise.
 * I do my best. See you. Yug (talk)  10:44, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Almost forgot. Do you think it is possible to solve French vs. English colors on the blank maps for Wikipedia to have a common standard? If the blank map stays grey, everyone will use grey. Emilfaro (talk) 10:48, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I think this is not solvable. Frenchs, AND Germans, and polishs, russians, and netherlanders have express preference toward soft colors (softgrey/softyellow/softblue). In this, the opposition to a CIA (!!!!) based colours, and the will to create a specific Wiki-based convention make for many the CIA style unacceptable. I'm one of those who think so. On the otherside, the English users, the strongest community, have express their attachment to such pink/orange/red colors. The both side are of equal strengh. -> We are lock, nobody want to move.
 * Accordingly, I plan to make a de facto compromise proposal as a "Potsdam Agreement", following the current 'line of control' in maps activity. I hope that will work, otherwise we will have an unneed heavy time-consuming map creation/edit war, and the full victory of one team on the other in ~3-4 years -___- Really a miserable way to work, especially bad for generous map makers ! Yug (talk)  11:27, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually I am Russian :-) I see your point. Good luck! Emilfaro (talk) 12:22, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

A nice picture, but maybe an inconsistency?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Customs_unions.png The picture is nice, but as far as I remember, Turkey is not a European Union, nor EFTA, nor EEA member state! Could you correct the picture? Kazkaskazkasako (talk) 13:11, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, Turkey is in Customs union with EFTA and EU :D Found Wikipedia article explaining this. Something new to me... As I've said before - a nice picture! Kazkaskazkasako (talk) 13:39, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * An important thing to study :-) See Customs Unions. But remember, not all the documents are limited to GATT/WTO, and some are temporary in nature. Emilfaro (talk) 18:13, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

I thought we had a discussion about this already
Didn't we have a similar discussion awhile ago? A representative for the organization ASEAN attends the SCO meetings, but representatives of the individual member states of ASEAN do not. Vietnam, for example, as the state of Vietnam, has no representative at the SCO meeting. The ASEAN representative is representing ASEAN the organization only, not Vietnam (even though Vietnam is a member of ASEAN). Another example, a representative of the United Nations attends meetings on peacekeeping in in the Mideast - Microneasia is a member of the UN, but Micronesia is obviously not directly involved in the Mideast peace process. There's a difference between organizational-level and state-level representatives. Only the observer states (Mongolia, India, Pakistan, Iran) and Afghanistan have state-level representatives at SCO meetings (which is why they are highlighted on the map on the top of the article). Representatives from CIS and ASEAN attend only representing the organization itself - highlighting all the states of the organization gives the completely wrong impression that those countries are some way involved at a state level. Otebig (talk) 22:47, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * We did not have a discussion about this. And I do not see any reason after all said, why not to use that map. But, as I understand, you have privatized that article, so I won't push :-) Best regards! Emilfaro (talk) 22:59, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Irreligion by country
I note that you added the Gallup poll data to the Irreligion by country article. The figures vary widely with respect to the other two columns. Can you find out how the survey was done? I would like to see that column replaced with census figures if availability. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 10:34, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The question asked was: "Is religion important?" I have put the "No" answer. Look in the free version of their database. They have as well published some ideas here. Other information is being held under the paid subscription to which I have no access. Regards! Emilfaro (talk) 10:40, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Irreligion Map
Hey, I see you created the, and I was wondering, where did you get the data for Chile? I couldn't find it in the links provided (maybe because I can't read Japanese). Oh, and the other source, the one in English, seems to have unreliable data. The numbers are based on mere speculation in most cases. For example, Sweden has between 46 and 85 percent of atheists...that's quite a large margin of error. There is a Gallup poll with more accurate data.

--xkoalax (talk) 21:35, 11 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I do not judge the sources. All of them could be unreliable, including Gallup. Sorry, for the late reply. Emilfaro (talk) 18:22, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

East Asian Community.PNG
Hi, I've uploaded your [[Media:East Asian Community.PNG|East Asian Community.PNG]] to commons. I hope you don't mind. Thx. --IvanLanin 17:53, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Of course, I don't mind. Being a bit lazy myself) Emilfaro (talk) 18:01, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

New EU map
Hello, if you do not like the new EU map, I invite you to explain your reasons on the Talk:European Union. Thank you, Laurent (talk) 14:04, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

File:Kyzyl Kum.png
Hello, I've transferred [[Media:Kyzyl_Kum.png]] to the without your permission, hope you don't mind. And I want to suggest you transfer more your pictures to Common.Thx.----WWBread (talk) 11:35, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I never mind about transfers to Commons, but I'll do that myself only if I have nothing else to do :-) Good luck! Emilfaro (talk) 08:35, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Alcoholism map
You show on your userpage a map labelled as "Alcoholism". However, what the map shows is the consumption of alcohol in a country, not how many people are addicted to alcohol. Munci (talk) 15:57, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, this is my userpage :-) Emilfaro (talk) 17:19, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

praise
Emilfaro, your work here on wikipedia is so awesome. thank youSpencerk (talk) 07:01, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks :-) Emilfaro (talk) 01:00, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Soviet Union graph
Could you come up with graphs of former soviet union GDP ajusted for perchasing power parity?--J intela (talk) 03:16, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the late reply... Unfortunately I do not respect the PPP concept, especially the one used by the IMF since Summer 2007. Emilfaro (talk) 00:59, 14 January 2010 (UTC)