User talk:Emir Arven/Archives 2

Was the Cetina-Una line the historic border of Croats and Serbs in the Early Medieval Ages? HolyRomanEmperor 17:10, 5 November 2005 (UTC)


 * No, it was not. There were Slav tribes between Serbs and Croats, that called themselves Bosniaks, according to Noel Malcolm's "Short History of Bosnia". Emir Arven 19:44, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Could you elaborate this to me a little more (I love history) And on my talk page, please. Thank you in advance. HolyRomanEmperor 21:43, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

I am very interested in this subject. Where are you? HolyRomanEmperor 15:02, 12 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I can give u just an advice to read serious history books about Bosnia, not those books from the Balkans (Serb/Croat/Bosniak books), because those books are full of mithology not the history. I prefer books by English and German authors. I can tell you that the nationalism in the Balkans is very strong and determins the shape of history books. Emir Arven 17:14, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Too bad... I was very interested in how does the Bosniak civilization fit-in with the De Regno Sclavorum, De Administrando Imperio and the Frankish Annals. HolyRomanEmperor 19:04, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

...or Bosnian Medieval rulers' statements... HolyRomanEmperor 19:31, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Are you busy or what? Because I wanted to start a long discussion with you... You're not ignoring me intentionally, are you??? HolyRomanEmperor 16:36, 15 November 2005 (UTC)


 * No I am not ignoring you. I gave you an advice and that is all. My contribution. Probably you will find some interesting people to discuss with...But be aware of nationalism...Emir Arven 16:41, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

With whome? User:Mir Harven who claims that all peoples came from Croats? HolyRomanEmperor 14:42, 16 November 2005 (UTC)


 * A good point. The same thing is with Serb nationalists. And to be honest, I think that you are also a nationalist. That is my impression. Because a normal people would not seek for anachronistic discussions to feed themselves (I made that conclusion based on your questions about statements of Bosnian rulers etc). There are many good books by very relevant authors. Emir Arven 20:18, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

I am sorry if you got that impression. You should see user:Dado's page and read what I told him a little about me. HolyRomanEmperor 15:19, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

The only reason is that I am - I admit it - a history fan (freak, if you go far enough) :S HolyRomanEmperor 15:23, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

To be honest, I think that you are a nationalist as well. I saw your contributions, and they're all on pages regarding Serbian history with comments like Serb lies, etc. HolyRomanEmperor 17:15, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

I think that I know what is the problem with you. I have been fighting Greater Croatian propaganda on this wiki since the day I came and without realising it; I made myself look like a nationalist I have overran myself, my friend. And I think that the same thing is happening with you... HolyRomanEmperor 18:35, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

I heard that you had a fight with User:Millish. He sounds OK to me. May I know the reason? HolyRomanEmperor 18:37, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

Millosh, sorry

And, it appears that you were frequently acused of xenophobia (don't shoot the messenger) HolyRomanEmperor 18:50, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

There are 10 ministers in the Serbian government; one of them being a Muslim; four (now three) deputy ministers are Muslims HolyRomanEmperor 19:07, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

Bosnian language (dialect) older than Bosan&#269;ica???

I am sorry? What is wrong, my friend? HolyRomanEmperor 15:32, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Why are you atempting to nationalise the article of Meša Selimović? No one is interested in his wonderful works... who cares what is he by religion (muslim), ethnicity (muslim Yugoslav?) and nationality (Serb) HolyRomanEmperor 16:39, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

I myself have passed through an ethnic cleansing camp, a third of myfamily was subjected to brutal slaughter and afet more then a decade, I still can't return to my home... But I try hard not to express any form of nationalist tendencies. HolyRomanEmperor 16:39, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

And it is to my believe that not only Bosniaks, Muslims and Montenegrins don't exist; but Croats and Serbs as well. After all, we all were one people when we came to the Balkans and formed Regnum Sclavorum (the Realm of Slavs) HolyRomanEmperor 16:44, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

We all were one people when we came to the Balkans and formed Regnum Sclavorum (the Realm of Slavs) HolyRomanEmperor 16:44, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Unfortunatly, foreign influences, religion and vicious separatism destroyed our people and created tiny little warmongering tribes that hate each other endlessly (and pointlessly) HolyRomanEmperor 16:46, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Ivo Andrić, Meša Selimović, King Petar I Karađorđević, King Alexander Karađorđević, Ivan Gundulić, Ljudevit Gaj, Josip Juraj Strossermayer all come from the same cultural, national and in every other way one entity. HolyRomanEmperor 16:52, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Politics and art (Mesha) don't mix - it is not appropriate to mention political demagogues like Alija Izetbegovich in an article like Meša Selimović. HolyRomanEmperor 17:04, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

This might be interesting to you: in the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy, the name Bosniaks was used (then it was invented, not in the 1990s) according to a Hungarian plan to denationalise Bosnia and Herzegovina. The name was used for all residents of Bosnia and Herzegovina, regardless of their ethnicity and/or origin HolyRomanEmperor 17:11, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

I am not welcome in your talk page? Why? HolyRomanEmperor 17:12, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

I am being friendly to you and I am helping you. I don't see the reason for your silent deleting of my posts. HolyRomanEmperor 21:27, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Da li pomaže to što mi je bosanski jezik maternji (prije nego srpski ili hrvatski) ? HolyRomanEmperor 13:49, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

I must point out that I will request for administer assistence if you continue vandilising articles like Njegos; I will have no part in the nationalist argues of you and Nikola, but I strongly object of your vandalising of history and literature. PS Njegos never wrote тко. HolyRomanEmperor 19:34, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

You may continue to fight endless and pointless nationalist wars with Greater Serbian and Greater Croatian propaganda spreaders, but I, from the point-of-view of an excellent and well-educated historian, will not allow you to re-write history. HolyRomanEmperor 19:37, 24 November 2005 (UTC)