User talk:Emmeliss

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I am trying to update a page about a charity. The information I have been trying to replace is out of date by many years and is highly misleading. I am new to editing on Wikipedia, but I recognise that there is a concern about potential conflicts of interest. I am a volunteer for the charity, the piece I have been trying to put up is factual, and all items can be verified on the charity's website. You have offered to proof-read a draft - how can I get this to you. I'm afraid the help pages on Wikipedia are very difficult to follow for anyone who is not used to working with Wikipedia! Many thanks.Emmeliss (talk) 08:10, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for being careful about Wikipedia's policies regarding conflict of interest.
 * What you need to do is pretty easy. Open the talk page associated with the page about the charity. In the desktop interface, that's a tab named "Talk" at the top of the page (it's in a pull down somewhere in the mobile interface). Select "New section" and call it something like "Corrections" or "Edit request". Then detail what you believe needs to be changed. You should ideally have independent references you can point to that verify the changes. You can just include them as links or give more detailed descriptions of the publication if they are not online. If all you have is something posted on the charity's own website, give that, but we don't necessarily consider such sources without some additional backup. You can use the template edit request to draw attention to your request and you can explain that you are working for the charity as a volunteer as the reason you are not making the change yourself.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 08:50, 19 October 2018 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict) Hi! I saw your question at the Teahouse. Learning the sometimes strange ways of WP takes time and patience, but it can and has been done.


 * To write at their talkpage, you could use the link placed in the words "my talk page" in their first message above. There is also a link to their talkpage hidden in the red "54129" number in their signature. On that page, you click "New section" near the top and write away.


 * Per what you write here, you should take a look at WP:ABOUTSELF. While an organisation's webpage can be used as a source for some things, it doesn't help in a discussion if WP should have an article on this org in the first place, for more on that, see Notability (organizations and companies). Happy editing! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:06, 19 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the ping, . I hope you're well, . Now then, the article. As I said in my edit summary, there was much that was wrong with the article as I found it. This was not your fault; it was like that long before you came to it. And indeed—mea maxima culpa—it was the condition that I appear to have left it in...it must have been a long day (although there were a few references in that version which seem to have been since lost). In any case, until yesterday, I'm afraid it read as being highly unencyclopaedic in tone, trying to [[WP:PROMO|promote the organisation, with over-the-top language. These issues have now been dealt with, and the references from the earlier version can be added to this which should demonstrate a degree of notability (which, I'm afraid, is absolutely essential) for the subject. As to what happens now: I suggest that I add the references to the article, and you suggest any changes you want to be made to it on the article talk page (per the guidelines mentioned above). In the meantime, I'll create a subpage in your own user space—here it is—for you to work on the old version in peace. Take care! ——  SerialNumber  54129  09:45, 19 October 2018 (UTC) Apologies for all the links, but they're worth looking at as it will explain much about various positions Wikipedia takes.  ——  SerialNumber  54129  09:45, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you all very much for your help, and for being so quick to reply. The following is in response to Serial Number 54129. I am happy with the version in the user space you have created for me. If I understand you correctly, you too are happy with it, except for the notability issue. I am not sure what references you were suggesting you might add, but those that have been added to the truncated page that currently exists should not be used (I am not clear how they got there?). They either relate to work we no longer do - hence the reason for the update - or link to our old website and therefore do not work in any case. I have a number of links I can provide, but am not sure how to do this. Does it make sense for me to slot them in, as ordinary links, to the article in the user space you have created?

Many thanks once again. Emmeliss (talk) 10:13, 19 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Emmeliss, WP loves inline citations, see Help:Referencing for beginners. I found a few possibly useful sources, see Talk:Facing the World. I don't know what resources you have, but it may be interesting that per WP:NOENG sources do not have to be in English (or online), but of course it tends to make things easier when they are. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:35, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for helping and it was very kind of you to look for sources - one in particular was excellent, and I hadn't found it myself. I have now finished all the changes I want to make on the subpage SerialNumber 54129 set up for me, but is it possible to have it approved (or otherwise!) before publishing? I don't want to make any more errors of practice. Thank you once again.Emmeliss (talk) 14:57, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Pinging again (you may want to learn the secret of the ping, see Notifications). The text in it's current form is completely uncited, and can't be used for that reason. Verifiability is very important. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:44, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanking you again, ; who is absolutely correct, again. In fact, it being uncited was one of the reasons it was moved here in the first place. I also think that has had a slight misunderstanding: although they say above (@14:57 today) that I have now finished all the changes I want to make on the subpage SerialNumber 54129 set up for me, in fact the page hasn't been edited since I moved it there, and thus far touched by no hand human  :) let us await clarification. Cheers!  ——  SerialNumber  54129  15:57, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I hope it clear enough that if you click "Publish changes" when editing User:Emmeliss/Facing the World, you are only changing that page, not the mainspace article. The name of this button has confused several new editors. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:08, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! No it was not clear at all! I will now press that button.Emmeliss (talk) 16:31, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Ok - done. I really hope not to have to bother you again, but can you please tell me next steps. Thank you again.Emmeliss (talk) 16:31, 19 October 2018 (UTC) And apologies, I had forgotten to sign those last two posts.Emmeliss (talk) 16:31, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Proposed replacement article
I am a volunteer for the charity this article is about. The page needs updating because of developments within the charity, but I understand that I may be seen to have a COI, hence the edit request.

The article that follows is intended to replace the existing entry entirely.

Please let me know of any problems. Many thanks in advance.

Facing the World(FTW) is a UK-based charity that seeks to help children in Vietnam with devastating facial disfigurements. The focus is educational, with FTW providing training in craniofacial surgery, through its Fellowship Program, to doctors across Vietnam so that surgery can be offered to increasing numbers of children.

History
Founded in 2003, for the greater part of its history FTW has been been active in Vietnam. This is because the occurrence of birth defects in Vietnam is estimated to be some 10 times higher than in neighbouring countries. Since 2008, the charity has run missions in which its surgeons operate on children with craniofacial defects and provide on-site training for the local teams. In 2014, Da Nang General Hospital and the charity co-hosted the first national Vietnam Craniofacial Conference.

Operation
FTW's reach in Vietnam has expanded over time, and the charity now has intensive collaborations not only with Da Nang General Hospital but also with Hong Ngoc Hospital, Viet-Duc University Hospital and, recently, 108 Military Hospital in Hanoi. Further appropriate hospitals will be added to its program.

Fellowships in the UK for Vietnamese doctors are key to the charity’s overall success. Visiting doctors shadow FTW surgeons, and observe and learn new techniques and approaches. These fellowships are then built on during missions to the hospitals in Vietnam where UK and Vietnamese teams jointly operate and put the new approaches and techniques to use. Recently, FTW has begun working with The Toronto Hospital for Sick Children (SickKids), who are now also hosting Vietnamese doctors under the FTW Fellowship Program.

In addition to its training program, FTW seeks to enable donations of vital equipment to its partner hospitals that will improve efficiency, and enable increasing numbers of operations to be performed. Equipment needs are identified in collaboration with the hospitals.

The charity is run primarily by volunteers. All the doctors donate their time as does the CEO (Trustee).

Recognition
Official status in Vietnam has been granted through Paccom registration. The charity has signed Memorandum of Understanding agreements with VAVA (Vietnam Association of Victims of Agent Orange/Dioxin), the Vietnam Red Cross and Direct Relief. FTW has a Vietnamese patron and two long-term financial supporters, giving it a sound platform from which to continue to expand its services throughout Vietnam.

The charity was commended by the UK’s Prime Minister with a Points of Light award in recognition of excellence, and has been awarded the prestigious award for “Peace and Friendship among Nations” from the Vietnam Union of Friendship Organizations. The charity has received the official endorsement of the UK All-Party Parliamentary Group for Vietnam and the Vietnam-UK Network. Most recently, the highest State award in Vietnam, the Government Friendship Medal, was awarded to Katrin Kandel (FTW's Voluntary CEO) and Facing The World.

Category:2003 establishments in the United Kingdom Category:Children's charities based in the United Kingdom Category:Plastic surgery organizations Category:Oral and maxillofacial surgery organizations Category:Organizations established in 2003

Emmeliss (talk) 13:06, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Using the request edit template 20-OCT-2018
You are free to keep draft versions within your own talk page space, but edit request templates should not be used here. Please make any requests which use the  template at the article in question's talk page. Thank you!  Spintendo   20:28, 20 October 2018 (UTC)