User talk:EnRoVe

July 2014
Hello, I'm Helpsome. I noticed that you recently removed some content without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; I restored the removed content. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! Helpsome (talk) 22:49, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. Helpsome (talk) 23:08, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

February 2023
Hello, I'm TylerBurden. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Kievan Rus', but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. TylerBurden (talk) 04:32, 9 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello TylerBurden.
 * I've added "Vlach" people to conglomerate of peoples and tribes that were included in Kievan Rus' territory. When I added "Vlach" I've included a clickable link to "Vlachs" Wikipedia page which is a reliable source. It is a well documented page about Vlach peoples in the Eastern Europe. In "Edit Summary" I've included the reason I've changed the content on your page. The single change I've made to the page was adding "Vlach" to conglomerate of peoples of Eastern Slavic, Norse, and Finnic ..and Vlach... heritage who all together became the bulk population of Kievan Rus'.
 * I've added Vlach population based on the fact that older sources highlight the fact that to the East of river Dniester (Ukrainian side) till up to Kiev, ((Romanian - river Nistru), river that is generally considered as a border between Moldovans and Ukrainians), up to Kiev, had many toponyms related to Vlach heritage. Even today you can find a town with the name "Balta" in Ukrainian Podolia (Podolia which I referred to as old Bolokhoveni land) as of Vlach heritage. We can find many more toponyms of Vlach heritage in this region if we go through the smaller place/village names. But Balta is a singular form of a "puddle", "pond" in Voloshin/Vlach/Romanian. We have its equivalent in Moldova's city of Bălți, which is nothing else than plural form for Balta. Balta, Bălți - "pond", "ponds" in old Vlach language. This is, if you wish, with no "reliable source", just by simple and reliable toponymics research. In Ukrainian Galicia region we can find other places called as Ushytsya, Nova Ushitsya which corresponds to Voloshin/Romanian Ushitsa which is nothing else than a diminutive from Usha, Ușa, "the door" in Vlach/Romanian. Check Italian for "uscia" which means not so nice phrasing of "check out the door", meaning "get out of here" in Italian. Nevertheless, in Vlach/Blach/Bolokh/Romanian it means just "the door". Ușa, Ușița - "door", "little door", in old Vlach language. This is related to Galicia toponymics and I can not provide so-called reliable evidence for that, at least for now.
 * When I added my change I did not include some Slovak and Czech references to arriving of significant amount of Vlachs (or Voloshins if you want to call them so) via Carpathian mountains in 15' century for example, in their countries, to not say that Vlachs/Voloshins were anyway a constant and stable population of Carpathians from ancestral times. In my try of change, small change on Kievan Rus' page, I was mostly referring to Podolia which became part of Kingdom of Galicia pretty early in history. Podolia, (and even Galicia itself), having lots of clues pointing towards its Vlach/Voloshin/Romanian ancestry. Even the name of Galicia is of Roman/Latin origin. It refers to Gauls, Gaelic and so on. In middle ages there is a constant fight between northern Germanic/Viking/Norse Europe and southern Latin/Romance/Gaelic Europe and its inhabitants. The Northern European populations were referring to southern Europeans as Valh, Wals, etc. When Gauls lost the war in favour of Greeks in Ancient Greece times it was in the place named Volca, in Balkans. Since then everybody in the Germanic (and Viking) northern world was calling southerners (apart from Greeks) Valh, or Valk, or Vlah, or Vlach. It was later transferred from Germanic world to Slavic languages as Voloshins, Vlasy, Vlachs. I don't want to enter into discussion about the name of Volhynia, which stands roughly for region of northern Galicia, Hutsulia, it is obvious to me that it is not of Slavic origins. But it is not a focal point in present discussion, because I was not looking for reference source about this here. My point was about Podolia, which in old sources was Bolokhovenia with old place names, from Slavic chronicles of 11 - 13 centuries, like Olohovets, Olshani, Voloschi and Vlodava, pointing towards their Voloshin/Vlach origins. The ending of .."dava" is a typical Dacian/Thracian ending for a city/town name, which means fortress.
 * So, do you think it's not enough to provide a Wikipedia page "Vlachs", a well resourced and documented page, as a reliable source for my little change on Kievan Rus' Wikipedia page ? Do you think it is not a reliable source ?
 * Please write me back to let me know what is your opinion.
 * Thank you EnRoVe (talk) 10:06, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Since Wikipedia articles are subject to change at any time and sometimes contain policy violations, they are not considered reliable references for use on other Wikipedia articles. It would need a reliable reference clearly stating the Kievan Rus' included the Vlach people. You can read more about citing sources on Wikipedia in the links above. TylerBurden (talk) 01:27, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your answer. I will look for reliable reference sources, go through chronicles, and other books. Have a good day. EnRoVe (talk) 19:51, 11 February 2023 (UTC)