User talk:EncMstr/Archive8

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A new user right for New Page Patrollers
Hi.

A new user group, New Page Reviewer, has been created in a move to greatly improve the standard of new page patrolling. The user right can be granted by any admin at PERM. It is highly recommended that admins look beyond the simple numerical threshold and satisfy themselves that the candidates have the required skills of communication and an advanced knowledge of notability and deletion. Admins are automatically included in this user right.

It is anticipated that this user right will significantly reduce the work load of admins who patrol the performance of the patrollers. However,due to the complexity of the rollout, some rights may have been accorded that may later need to be withdrawn, so some help will still be needed to some extent when discovering wrongly applied deletion tags or inappropriate pages that escape the attention of less experienced reviewers, and above all, hasty and bitey tagging for maintenance. User warnings are available here but very often a friendly custom message works best.

If you have any questions about this user right, don't hesitate to join us at WT:NPR. (Sent to all admins) .MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:46, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Well that was ham-fisted
You elected to block block User:Cliff1911 on October 7, 2016 so I would call that a trifecta. I would recommend in the future that you read WP:HURTS before taking actions which have the effect of removing good editors (Master Editor, 3 barnstars) from the project.
 * with no escalating levels of warning
 * when the editor had done, quite literally, nothing wrong
 * with the result that this productive editor has left the project

Your block reason was "You have been blocked temporarily from editing for unexplained deletions on Bend of the River, and multi-years of ignoring requests to include edit summaries."

Taking the first, the editors only edit to Bend of the River was this one, and it's a perfectly fine edit -- not only not a blockable offense, but not an offense of any kind, by any stretch.

The editor removed unsourced material which was idiosyncratic. All, or almost all, of the many film articles I have seen list cast members either as "Joe Smith" or "Joe Smith, as Pinckney Pruddle", not as "Joe Smith as Pinckney Pruddle, an itinerant pinboy". There's nothing necessarily wrong with the latter form -- our articles differ in the way the handle details like this, and fine -- but it's certainly not a requirement to include a description of the character's role or profession. As I say, most (I would even say practically all) of our movie articles don't.

So to block an editor for removing this material, especially considering that it is unsourced -- don't do stuff like that. Are you in the habit of doing stuff like this? If so, please stop. If you are frustrated that the editor did not summarize his edit, well too bad, because I can summarize it for you by clear and obvious inference: "Remove unsourced extraneous material, we do not generally include role characterizations in cast lists". You should have been able to easily infer this motive for the edit and if you are unable to so it does not speak well of your acuity, to be honest.

By the way you could have simply and legitimately reverted the edit per WP:BRD. This would have been the correct thing to do.

As to your second point, "You have been blocked [for] multi-years of ignoring requests to include edit summaries", may I point out two facts, of which you ought to be aware:
 * 1) Edit summmaries are not required. They are optional. WP:ES says only "It is good practice to fill in the Edit summary field".
 * 2) This particular editor, User:Cliff1911, has been hauled to WP:ANI a few times where his idiosyncratic editing, including failure to provide edit summaries, has been discussed, and the consensus always has been "He's easily a net positive to the project, and he's not going to change, so leave him alone".

If you want WP:ES to say "Failure to provide edit summaries can result in editors being blocked or banned", them you need to run a WP:RfC and get the wording changed. Until you do that, you are not supposed to act on your own just because you, personally, are irritated or in a bad mood or whatever.

As has been pointed out by editors who are familiar with User:Cliff1911, this editor does not engage, and may not know he has a talk page, so upon finding himself blocked, he may have either assumed the block was permanent, or felt unwelcome. Either way, he has apparently left the project for good, not having edited since his block and IMO very unlikely to do so.

So by blocking this editor, you effectively removed him from the project, as I could have predicted, and per point #2 above you have done so in direct contravention of the consensus of even your fellow admins. If you don't want to listen to me, fine, but you ought at least give some respect to admin corps, for goodness' sake.

So not a good move, no. Herostratus (talk) 17:09, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Just so you know, EncMstr, there's something of a discussion kind of about it here. ansh 666 02:01, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

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13:36, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

"Unexplained deletions"
As per consensus we don't include birth places in the (born birth date) field. (talk page stalker) Crash Under ride  20:41, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

MGM Grand Fire
Thanks for fixing my "fix"; I didn't know soffit was a real word and thought someone just misspelled socket. :) 68.156.95.34 (talk) 02:15, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Art+Feminism @ Portland Institute for Contemporary Art (March 18, 2017)
You are invited to the upcoming Art+Feminism edit-athon, which will be held at the Portland Institute for Contemporary Art (415 Southwest 10th Avenue #300, Portland 97205) on Saturday, March 18, 2017 from 10:00am – 5:00pm. For more information, visit Eventbrite.

Hope to see you there! -MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:46, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

The problem is your revert is wrong
The problem here, where your revert is wrong is the name Blue Mountain (Singular) is inappropriate to a ridgeline with a length of 255 miles, or at least 150 miles as the crow flies. Older topo maps show it appropriately as Blue Mountain Ridge, acknowledging it has many peaks; that is also distinct from GNIS name Blue Ridge Mountain. That another disambig page Blue Mountain already includes a link to the article is to the good. Someone looking for the page can find it easier. No logically good reason two disambig pages can't link such, when the case is the difference and the problem . Kindly undo your revert, least I need to do so. // Fra nkB 21:00, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the heads up. The dab page Blue Mountains contains 22 entries, all of which are plural.  In a discussion years ago, I pointed out that having both Blue Mountain and Blue Mountains dab pages is a little confusing even for English literate persons, but those for which English is a second language may find it completely befuddling.  Maybe the proper course is to combine them?  Unless there is some aspect I am unaware of, Black Mountain/Black Mountains and White Mountain/White Mountains have the same issue.  —EncMstr (talk) 21:19, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Heh, heh. Those and many others. Actually think the issue is decades old and rooted in inconsistent policy or division inside the USGS and/or GNIS community. As a railroad buff, I acquired quite a few 1890s-1820s series USGS topo maps when they were available via some University servers years back.  These are particularly valuable for showing railroading in its prime - nearly a maximum extent - but also because auto-clubs hadn't yet lobbied to create later road networks junking up the terrain.  In those, these Ridge-and-Valley systems are generally labeled with Ridges, or occasionally by Mountains.  Mountain Singular, I conjecture came about as an advertising side dish, like 'Lehigh Valley' and 'Delaware Valley', in announcements.  Since 2004, this sort of issue generally gets limp noodle enthusiasm put to a vote, so best to resolve in a conversation like this.  Its not worth the time to be politically engaged over.  // Fra nkB  00:32, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
 * On reading your prior discussion and your response, I note two differences
 * Blue Mountains - is for Australia, a world class chain, so important there as they have so few chains. (I Skype on line with a few Aussies, 16 hr diffs in schedules permitting).
 * IMHO, the proper name for Blue Mountain (Pennsylvania) is not as I pipetricked it in my edit, but Blue Mountains, Pennsylvania which would emphasize its cross-state extent. But THAT battle was one I haven't yet decided to fight, you know!? // Fra nkB 00:40, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Art+Feminism Wikipedia Edit-a-thon @ PNCA Library (April 29, 2017)
You are invited to the upcoming Art+Feminism edit-athon, which will be held at the Pacific Northwest College of Art (PNCA) Library at 511 NW Broadway on Saturday, April 29, 2017, from 11am to 4pm. For more information, visit the Facebook event page.

Hope to see you there! -MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:32, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Meetup Invitation
You are invited to the upcoming Asian Pacific American Heritage month edit-athon.

This will be held on the first floor of the Knight library at the University of Oregon.

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Homechallenge55
Please hurry and ban him, he keeps yelling in his edit summaries and keeps threatening people to pay attention to him. Please ban him, he's taken issues way too far! 2600:1000:B020:A66:793C:17A6:58CA:AAC5 (talk) 18:23, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Invitation to comment on Template:Link language RfC
As you've commented on this subject before, I wanted to invite you to join Template talk:Link language.

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Wiki Loves Pride at PNCA: Tuesday, June 27
You are invited to the upcoming Wiki Loves Pride edit-athon, which will be held at the Pacific Northwest College of Art (511 NW Broadway) on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, from 5–8pm. For more information, visit the meetup page or Facebook event page.

Hope to see you there! -MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:38, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Request
Can you please semi-protect the article Deportation of the Crimean Tatars for unregistered users? An anonymous IP keeps inserting a lot of undue weight in the article. If he has questions, he can always try to reach consensus on the talk page before disruptive editing.--Seiya (talk) 17:02, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Upcoming Wikipedia edit-a-thon dedicated to artists of color - Thursday, Oct. 26 at PNCA
On Thursday, October 26, a Wikipedia edit-a-thon dedicated to artists of color will be held from 4–8pm at the Pacific Northwest College of Art (511 NW Broadway). Learn more at Facebook. Hope to see you there! -MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:27, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

Unusual message/activity on my talk page
EncMstr, somebody left an unusual message on my talk page and I noticed some activity associated to it: User_talk:ICE77. I'm not sure how to interpret it. I assume it's a form of spam or some kind of scam. Could you comment on it please and let me know what you think is the situation?

ICE77 (talk) 04:13, 15 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I think you can safely ignore it. It appears to be adolescent ranting.  —EncMstr (talk) 18:01, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

EncMstr, thank you for the suggestion.

ICE77 (talk) 05:55, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

10 years of adminship, today.
Wishing EncMstr a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Chris Troutman ( talk ) 19:21, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Oregon articles update
Looks like you've gotten out of the habit of running your update to WikiProject Oregon/Admin. It's only been updated once in the past four months, and the last time was about seven weeks ago. So, when convenient, ..... (assuming it is still functioning fine). Thanks! SJ Morg (talk) 06:13, 9 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Last summer, some change was made to the Wikimedia API that the process used and broke its authetication resulting in denied writes (but it computes the new page just fine). I have made several attempts to figure out how to fix it, but it baffled me that no other bot had the same problem, or maybe it just wasn't discussed.  When it worked, it ran daily.  I can run the automatic part and manually write the result, which sounds easy but somehow was more work than I expected.  Perhaps over the weekend.  —EncMstr (talk) 06:23, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. Sorry to hear that it's so difficult now.  SJ Morg (talk) 11:22, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

wiki-links feedback
Hi! Thanks for checking out my fish wheel article and cleaning up my "over-linking." I wasn't sure what was too much or what was too little, so it's good to have a pair of expert eyes make the call. Thanks! Akenefick (talk) 23:47, 18 February 2018 (UTC)Akenefick

Wikipedia Edit-a-Thon: Jewish Women Artists (March 8, Oregon Jewish Museum)
On March 8 (International Women's Day), the Oregon Jewish Museum and Center for Holocaust Education and artist Shoshana Gugenheim will be hosting a Wikipedia edit-a-thon to create and improve Wikipedia articles about Jewish women artists. Click here for more information. You can also express interest or suggest articles to create or improve here. This event is free and open to the public, and will serve as both a public art action and a public educational program. Participation is welcome in person and remotely (for those outside of Portland). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:25, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Art+Feminism Wikipedia Edit-a-thon (March 10, Pacific Northwest College of Art)
On Saturday, March 10 (11am to 4pm), the Pacific Northwest College of Art (PNCA) will be hosting a Wikipedia edit-a-thon to create and improve Wikipedia articles about art, feminism, and women. You can read details on the Facebook event page, or this Wikipedia meetup page. Tutorials for new editors, reference materials, childcare, and refreshments will be provided. Bring your laptop, power cord and ideas for entries that need updating or creation. For the editing-averse, you're welcome to stop by to show your support! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:50, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Ostroski
After a long absence, he's back, adding fictitious future species to Desmodus, and creating a nonsense article on a talk page which another editor has since moved to draft space, Draft:Land octopus, which needs a speedy deletion. The IP address resolves to the same area as before. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 22:46, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Blocked ;-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   23:19, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Art+Feminism Wikipedia Edit-a-thon (April 13, University of Oregon)
On Friday, April 13 (3pm to 6pm), the University of Oregon will be hosting a Wikipedia edit-a-thon to create and improve Wikipedia articles about art and feminism. You can learn more at the Dashboard page, or our Wikipedia meetup page. Tutorials for new editors, reference materials, and snacks will be provided. Please bring your laptop, power cord and ideas for entries that need updating or creation. For the editing-averse, we urge you to stop by to show your support and have snacks! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:01, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Your talk-archive navbox
Thanks for continuing to run the update to the list of Oregon-related articles periodically. It is very helpful.

This note, however, is mainly to point out that it appears your talk-archive navigation box needs updating. Current, the link labeled "January 2011 through present" goes to your Archive 6, but your most recent archive is Archive 8. Cheers, SJ Morg (talk) 08:17, 10 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for both notices. When I'm not so tired, I'll fix up the latter.  Thanks again!  —EncMstr (talk) 08:32, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Ali Farka Touré & Ry Cooder
Do we really do articles in the form of Ali Farka Touré & Ry Cooder? Colour me surprised. Talking Timbuktu is their collaboration. IMO we open up a can of worms if we can have articles combining the names of all of the people who have ever collaborated in the music scene. --Tagishsimon (talk) 03:28, 3 December 2018 (UTC)


 * I wrote a better article but it was lost before saving when I upgraded Firefox yesterday. It occurred to me something like a "multi-redirect" or disambiguation would be a better way to handle the situation because I think only two albums were produced by them, so it is a bold effort to improve Wikipedia.  The page itself is referenced by Radio Paradise when they play anything from the album.  That way, an RP listener can click to each article rather than reaching a dead end.  —EncMstr (talk) 06:42, 3 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Very well. Multi-redirects it is, then. About time we had some innovation. You're right - they also did In the Heart of the Moon with Toumani Diabaté (of whose 1988 album Songhai, and 1999 New Ancient Strings I cannot speak highly enough.) I guess the question is now begged whether the redirect should also provide pointers to the two albums. I leave that to you to contemplate. --Tagishsimon (talk) 06:52, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Hey there. I was unable to find any notable media coverage about the band Irya's Playground and they only seem to have been active in 2008 to very mild local success, so I have nominated it for deletion:

Speedy deletion nomination of Irya's Playground


A tag has been placed on Irya's Playground requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person, a group of people, an individual animal, an organization (band, club, company, etc.), web content, or an organized event that does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the. – Þjarkur (talk) 21:29, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia Editathon: The Visibility Project - Saturday, January 19
Make+Think+Code and the Pacific Northwest College of Art are hosting a Wikipedia editathon at the Shipley Collins Mediatheque (511 NW Broadway) on Saturday, January 19 from 10am to 2:30pm. The purpose of the event is to make Wikipedia a more vibrant, representative, inclusive and diverse resource. Please visit Meetup/MakeThinkCode/TheVisibilityProject for more information. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:46, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Oregon State University Black History Month Wikipedia Edit-a-thon, Friday, February 8
To commemorate Black History Month, Oregon State University, Wikimedia Nigeria, Federal University of Agriculture, Abeokuta, and AfroCROWD are hosting a Wikipedia edit-a-thon at the Oregon State University Valley Library on Friday, February 8 from 2–5pm. The purpose of the event is to reduce Wikipedia's diversity gap by creating and improving articles about African American culture and history, as well as notable people of African descent and the African diaspora in general. Please visit here for more information. Remote participation is welcome! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:37, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

PNCA Art+Feminism Wikipedia Editathon, Saturday, March 9
The Pacific Northwest College of Art (PNCA) is hosting a Wikipedia edit-a-thon in the Shipley Collins Mediatheque (511 NW Broadway) on Saturday, March 9 from 10am – 2:30pm. This is a free community event designed to teach people to add and edit information about cis and transgender women and nonbinary folks to Wikipedia. We'll have training sessions, artist talks, snacks, free childcare, and plenty of exciting energy and collaboration! You're welcome to drop in any time during the event. Participants are encouraged to bring their own laptops and charging cables, though if you are not able, computer stations will be available. Please visit this link for more information. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:02, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

International Women's Day Wikipedia Edit-a-thon, Oregon Jewish Museum, Thursday, March 7
The Oregon Jewish Museum and Center for Holocaust Education, in partnership with social practice artist Shoshana Gugenheim and as part of the Art+Feminism Project, will host the 2nd Annual International Women's Day Wikipedia Edit-a-thon to edit and/or create Wikipedia articles for Jewish women artists. The event will be held at the museum on Thursday, March 7 from 4 to 8 pm. Pre-registration is preferred but not required. Members of the public are invited to come to the museum to learn about the editing process, its history, its impact, and how to do it. We aim to collaboratively edit/enter 18 Jewish women artists into the canon. Support will be provided by an experienced local Wikipedian who will be on site to teach and guide the process. This edit-a-thon will serve as both a public art action and a public educational program. Participants will have an opportunity to select an artist/s ahead of time or on site.

Please visit this link and the meetup page for more information. Thanks! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:25, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Template:Libraries in the United States


A tag has been placed on Template:Libraries in the United States requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section T2 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here.  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:41, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks!
Not sure if you're tackling Category:Oregon articles missing geocoordinate data or not, but thanks for adding coordinates to some PDX articles recently. I'm following behind to add maps where applicable. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:59, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

I'll nibble away at them as time permits. I hadn't checked the backlog for several years until you mentioned it somewhere. It is way too beautiful a day to do it now, however. —EncMstr (talk) 22:02, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
 * For sure! Enjoy the day. I was able to get out and take some photographs, which I hope to upload to Commons soon. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:43, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

ArbCom 2019 special circular
   

This message was sent to all administrators following a recent motion. Thank you for your attention. For the Arbitration Committee, Cameron11598 02:54, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Administrator account security (Correction to Arbcom 2019 special circular)
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Since November 2018, six administrator accounts have been compromised and temporarily desysopped. In an effort to help improve account security, our intention was to remind administrators of existing policies on account security — that they are required to "have strong passwords and follow appropriate personal security practices." We have updated our procedures to ensure that we enforce these policies more strictly in the future. The policies themselves have not changed. In particular, two-factor authentication remains an optional means of adding extra security to your account. The choice not to enable 2FA will not be considered when deciding to restore sysop privileges to administrator accounts that were compromised.

We are sorry for the wording of our previous message, which did not accurately convey this, and deeply regret the tone in which it was delivered.

For the Arbitration Committee, -Cameron11598 21:03, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Lyman Mountain
Thanks for adding the coordinates to Lyman Mountain. But I'm concerned that you removed a couple wikilinks, and here's why: if there aren't at least 3 wikilinks in an article, other users browsing with AutoWikiBrowser will automatically tag it with Template:Underlinked. That's the rule as much as I disdain it. It doesn't matter how short an article is, if it doesn't contain at least 3 wikilinks, it will eventually be tagged with the ugly Underlinked template.

I believe it's preferable to have a little overlink than the Underlinked template.– Gilliam (talk) 06:24, 24 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Gah! Another annoyance of AWB!  I had no idea. Do you know if categorization "links" count as part of the three?  —EncMstr (talk) 14:32, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * No, any category "links" don't count towards the minimum. There have to be 3 Wikilinks (internal links) in the article body or else Underlinked template is automatically applied.– Gilliam (talk) 14:39, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay, I have added two useful links; see if that works. —EncMstr (talk) 15:00, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

60056 listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect 60056. Since you had some involvement with the 60056 redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 06:44, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!
 Happy First Edit Day! Have a very happy first edit anniversary!

From the Birthday Committee, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 02:41, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Me
Hi there! Here's a bit of a blast from the past: you semi-protected Me all the way back in 2008. What do you think about unprotecting it? I understand it may be a bit of a target for schoolkids, but as I'm sure you know, protection is supposed to be something of a "last resort". I'm all for opening a discussion somewhere if you think it'd be good for other people to weigh in. Thanks for your time! --47.146.63.87 (talk) 10:02, 7 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Wow! I didn't know I had been an admin for over ten years!
 * The article's history shows that—up until it was semi-protected—there was regular vandalism with many requiring version deletion (there are 79 revisions which most users cannot see). Since then, edits are highly civil and, as far as I looked, there are no bad faith edits.  Maybe that is cause to believe the protection is unnecessary or at least to experimentally unprotect with the hope that editors have collectively evolved and no longer will do what was commonplace over 11 years ago.
 * Naw. The desire for expressions of vanity hasn't decreased nor has a sense of abundant respect developed in schoolkids around the world, certainly not in North America.  I fully expect that reducing protection will result in a full assault requiring frequent reversions like it was before 2008.
 * However, if you or others have a personal motivation for improving the page, you have several options:
 * Add an edit request to the talk page, or
 * Create a Wikipedia editing account, log in, and improve some (other) articles until you have achieved confirmed status.
 * —EncMstr (talk) 19:24, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

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Request for semi-protection on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_people

 * ✅ —EncMstr (talk) 16:28, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi User talk:EncMstr

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_people

Can you please make this page semi-protected or direct me to the right template. Persistence vandalism by both unsigned and newly created usernames with the sole purpose of Vandalising. Many thanksMelroross (talk) 16:15, 21 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much EncMstr for the short-term protection of this page. If you go through the edit history you you identify flows of IP addresses and VandalUser profiles. Could you please make this permanently protected? Many thanks for your intervention Melroross (talk) 16:33, 21 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Permanent protection is not called for in this situation, especially since there are 152 page watchers. (See WP:PPINDEF for insight about permanent protection.)  I understand how frustrating it can feel to clean up after bad faith edits, but look around at other contentious articles and you should see that good prevails over evil because evil is so easily undone in this environment.  Be aware that there is a three revert (in any 24 hour interval) limit for each editor (per WP:3RR).  If you notice anyone exceeding that, report at WP:AIV.  I chose 12 hour protection in the hopes that some discussion might defuse the situation, but I didn't research the dispute at all (having just woke up).  I'll look into it deeper later today.  —EncMstr (talk) 17:11, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Request for PERMANENT Protection for Portuguese people page
Dear User talk:EncMstr

Thank you for the temporary protection of this page yesterday. I will elaborate on why I am now requesting a permanent semi-protection status on this page. I sent this request earlier today without realising that User:Paul2520|paul2520]] is not an administrator. My apologies for that. Have a nice day... I understand there’s a few hours between our respective timezones (UK):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_people

For the past couple of months, I’ve witnessed repeated vandalism against this page. The users are almost invariably from unsigned or VandalismUser temporary profiles based in Brazil or Spain or from Spanish/Hispanic users who, for different reasons have manifest anti-Portuguese sentiments. The most recent is this series of IP addresses I suspect by the same user who has an obsession with the racial contribution of Jews and Arabs being supposedly higher in Portugal than in Spain and also the Portuguese contributions in the New World discoveries. I’ve suggested making this page protected or semi-protected as it is highly counterproductive and tedious, having to deal with malicious and vandal edits. Can you help with this? What is the procedure for a semi-protection to be put in place? Many thanksMelroross (talk) 14:41, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Suspect Vandalism user: IP address 46.222.138.139 IP address 84.78.247.241 now also created user User:NormanGear same unique purpose: Vandaluser. Melroross (talk) 14:58, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, . Similar to (see discussion here), I feel ill-informed; I am nowhere near an expert on the topics being discussed. I did some maintenance edits, which is I believe why the other editor reached out to me.
 * Help desk and Dispute resolution would be better places; I'm not sure I'm the best editor to mediate this dispute.
 * I see the page has temporary restrictions; Requests for page protection is a good place to learn more about requesting page protections.
 * I would also encourage you to engage in the discussion at Talk:Portuguese people. A cursory exploration suggests to me that the anonymous editor is now using a registered account & is open to discussion.
 * Let me know if I can be of further assistance! Like I said, I'm not an expert on the content, but I am in favor of furthering our goals through collaboration. = paul2520 (talk) 00:00, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi Paul,

A permanent semi-protection as I see it from following this for a while, is the only way to keep this page protected from vandalism/malicious manipulation from users like the one reported above. For years I have been editing on and off until in the past few months I noticed something “intriguing”: Each time there was a “edit conflict” it was invariably caused by either Brazilians or Spaniards, or either of the two located elsewhere in the world but with ties to either or. Being partly Portuguese and having studied Humanities and Linguistics at the oldest and most prestigious Lusophone university, Coimbra, I am very confident in the History, Culture and Language of Portugal. I know only too well about the historical resentments from some Brazilians who blame the Portuguese as previous colonial power, for all which is wrong with Brazil today and some Spaniards who cannot comprehend why Portugal came to be, feel betrayed and to this day continue to resent the fact that for over 900 years their “small neighbour” repudiated their many attempts to impose a united Iberia. Basically by aligning with England militarily and commercially, Portugal has been perceived as traitor. Today even the timezone is the same in Portugal, UK and Ireland, different to mainland Europe. I believe that the current independent movements in Catalonia may make more Spaniards feel that Galicia where they basically speak “old Portuguese” despite many centuries of “Hispanisation” where even surnames, names of towns and the language itself were suppressed and replaced as late as 1974, may also want independence or worse, join the Lusophone league of countries. The Spanish issue is deeper as historically the Portuguese sided with the English and in fact were the inspiration for NATO for instance. The English humiliated Spain and spread a racial rumour of “beyond France it’s all Africa” which was an insult aimed at the Spanish and their long, deep-rooted Moorish influence. The Portuguese expelled their Moors almost 3 centuries earlier and in terms of Islamic legacy or importance, their presence was much smaller and fragmented in Portugal. Portuguese and Galician are mainly Iberian-Celtic peoples, the two language variations are Romance and stem from the medieval Galician-Portuguese which has little Arabic influence and more relevant Celtic components. The official Spanish language, Castilian has 8% of Arabic in their inventory and the Islamic heritage is also quite prevalent in architecture, cuisine, music etc. The Spanish have endured the “Hispanic” stigmatisation from America for many decades too. It is something many find hurtful and I know that a lot of Spaniards try now to separate themselves from the Hispanic definition meaning, they are not brown and semi-illiterate Latin-Americans but a European, first world people. The Portuguese are traditionally racially unaware and were never confronted with justifying their origins in a racial way... there’s not one Portuguese race but a melting pot of ancient peoples who settled in Portugal. If you see the two pages and compare the scrutiny, you will notice something very “intriguing” again. A lot of the genetic studies quoted here have been carried out by either Spaniards or Spanish-friendly scholars. The “Moors” are avoided like the plague and the Visigoths gain a legendary importance which even Boris Johnson, the current UK prime minister noticed and made a programme about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS07hDVoJcM

and the issue is contentious at other levels:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQbY8xIAQuo

There’s no such sub-section as “Genetic History of the Iberian Peninsula” in the Spaniards page, contrasting with the Portuguese people page. Now as Iberia is at least 75% Spain how come this topic only touches Portugal, the tiny neighbour? Precisely because the Portuguese don’t have hang ups about their culture or genetics or language or racial qualification:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaniards. (the page is of course, protected already)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_people

Now what I will not tolerate is having more ignorant vandals from Spain or Brazil or wherever else try and use Wikipedia as a means of disseminating racial and cultural hatred or discrimination against a people and a culture which deserve respect. The continuous malicious, ill-willed and mordant edits are not just frustrating, they are counterproductive. Why would someone create an account on Wikipedia/other social media with the sole purpose of trying to denigrate others is beyond my comprehension and should be stopped. Too much hatred in the world already.

For all of the above I request you/whom it may concern to make this page permanently semi-protectd:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_people

Many thanks Melroross (talk) 15:30, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * I am not an administrator. You are asking the wrong editor.
 * Did you read my earlier message? = paul2520 (talk) 16:04, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Many thanks User talk:EncMstr Melroross (talk) 17:12, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * As I mentioned in the previous section, permanent protection is unlikely. Case in point:  the page protection expired about 17 hours ago and not a single edit has been made to it.  However, the talk page is having substantial use and could be helping to resolve the issue(s).  I'll be keeping an eye on things and intervene if necessary.  —EncMstr (talk) 21:45, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

I opened a discussion thread to reach a consensus, but if you look at Melroross's performance, you can see he has no intention of acting in good faith.

He has systematically deleted sources of a scientific nature, has also deleted literal text extracted from the current source used in this article, he deletes the messages and other opinions in the thread, and also he altered the title of the open Talk even though they have already warned him not to do so and which violates Wikipedia rules. And all this using (as you have surely observed) a fairly accusative language with many personal attacks that have nothing to do with the subject in question.

I am willing to dialogue in the open thread of discussion, my objective is to apply in this article what the source literally says, because the current statement is completely incoherent and doesnt adapt to the source. However, it is necessary for Melroross to compromise and stop deleting other people's messages. NormanGear (talk) 22:45, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

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Welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits to Solar eclipse of April 8, 2024, it appears that you have added original research, which is against Wikipedia's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. Thank you. Scjessey (talk) 14:32, 27 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the reminder. I have researched the topic in some depth and found that it probably does indeed warrant superlative treatment, at least for a few years.  ;-)  I expanded on the original addition and found three notable sources.  Regards,  —EncMstr (talk) 16:44, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

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AOP task
Hello EncMstr. I know that EncMstrBot has taken over the AOP task formerly carried out by TedderBot (operated by User:Tedder). Does EncMstrBot rely on TedderBot's /admin and /admin2 subpages? If yes, I was going to update the subpages because their data is more than 6 years old. If no, I was going to suggest to Tedder that the subpages be deleted or Userpage blanked to avoid similar confusion in the future. -- Black Falcon (talk) 22:11, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * No, EncMstrBot does not refer to those pages. It enumerates all transclusion references to template:WikiProject Oregon from the English Wikipedia, and the contributions to each article by each project member.  Also, for the Admin2 page, it reads WP:WikiProject Oregon/Participants.  The Bot writes only to the WP:WikiProject Oregon/Activity, WP:WikiProject Oregon/Admin, and WP:WikiProject Oregon/Admin2 pages (without reading anything from them).
 * actively edits; you should run your suggestions by him. Thanks!   —EncMstr (talk) 04:08, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll blank 'em, in case the breadcrumbs are helpful. tedder (talk) 04:18, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks to you both! -- Black Falcon (talk) 18:46, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Ostrowski, again


Hi EncMstr, after a long absence, he's made another appearance, typical MO (same IP provider and general location, creating a fictitious taxobox on a talk page). Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 08:48, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi again EncMstr, since you haven't responded I'm assuming that you're busy, so I've just tagged that talk page with a couple of speedy deletion templates (categories G3, G8). The editor hasn't made any new edits from that IP address, but since he's resumed activity, it's possible that there may be others.

Even though he only edits from IP addresses, is it worth submitting a WP:LTA report? Although some of his past edits have been obviously nonsensical, in some cases, such as his latest edits, it's sneaky abuse that requires more explanation, and may not be readily apparent to an admin not familiar with the case. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 09:13, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

List of Scottish monarchs
EncMstr,

On the 6th of June I made a fairly good amount of clean-up and standardization of tables for the list of Scottish monarchs. Surtsicna wiped out all the images for the first 3 tables claiming "Removing silly fanciful portraits. No serious work of reference includes these. Also removing unnecessary pipes per WP:NOPIPE and fixing excessive capitalization". The images have been there for a very long time and I never learned they were "fakes". Could you check on whether the images should really be removed and, if not, help me to take back the page to the version at 07:32 on 6 June 2020?

ICE77 (talk) 20:47, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, ICE77. Thanks for pinging me. Most of the images are 17th-century paintings. Some are from the 19th century even. They are not commonly associated with the kings in scholarly literature, and thus should not be used on Wikipedia without a very good reason. Using them without explanation and a good reason is misleading. We do not want the readers to think, for example, that these 10th-century people dressed in 17th-century fashion. Surtsicna (talk) 20:55, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Question
Would you be a Wikipedia administrator willing to provide copies of deleted articles? I saw your name on the page, so I was wondering before actually asking you. Thanks if so, and if not, so you know any such user? 2001:BB6:52F1:AB00:F0FD:1345:80A:1854 (talk) 16:28, 16 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Sure. What article?  (If you have a Wikipedia account, please log in before answering.  Otherwise, it might be difficult for you to get read access.)  —EncMstr (talk) 16:40, 16 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Monika (character), a previous version of it from before it was deleted and later redirected. 2001:BB6:52F1:AB00:F0FD:1345:80A:1854 (talk) 16:52, 16 June 2020 (UTC)


 * The history is a bit odd. The page was first created at 2020-04-14 08:10:08 (US Pacific time), revised (to delete categories present in the wikitext) about 50 minutes later.  Then it was changed at 2020-05-02 05:52:50.  The first and second revisions were a redirect to  Doki Doki Literature Club!.  The last version changed the redirect to Monika (given name).  The first revision placed the redirect into 4 categories (which has little useful effect):  Category:Female characters in video games, Category:Video game characters introduced in 2017, Category:Internet memes, and Category:Internet memes introduced in 2017.  Is there anything else I can do for you?  —EncMstr (talk) 05:04, 17 June 2020 (UTC)


 * That is when it was recreated. It was originally created as a full-length character page like GLaDOS, deleted on a rollback of its creator's edits, and then redirected by ItWillBeTossed a few days later, who used part of the original page on an old version of Sayori (character). My question is whether a previous revision of a page after it has been deleted and a new redirect has been added can still be viewed? I would assume one some level it should be. Can it? 2001:BB6:52F1:AB00:F0FD:1345:80A:1854 (talk) 09:48, 17 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I don't follow. The page Monika (character) has only three revisions and was always a redirect.  Are you looking for an old revision of Sayori (character)?  You should be able to see them (as here).  —EncMstr (talk) 19:19, 17 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Right, so it was not in fact always a redirect despite what you may see. Firstly there was a full-length in-detail page there, which was deleted on a rollback of its creator's edits in early to mid-April. And then later that same day, ItWillBeTossed created the page again, this time as a redirect rather than as an article. Earlier that same day, before the page was deleted, they used a fragment of the original Monika (character) to create this revision of Sayori (character), but there is an older revision of Monika (character) which I cannot see due to it being deleted, and then recreated as a redirect. 2001:BB6:52F1:AB00:F0FD:1345:80A:1854 (talk) 23:00, 17 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Ah! You are correct:  there are 31 deleted revisions (which, alas, I somehow didn't recognize at first).  I have created User:EncMstr/recovered/Monika (character) from the latest (deleted) revision.  It is exact except the categories which I have commented out (see the bottom of the page's wikitext) to avoid unwanted interactions with the main article namespace.  —EncMstr (talk) 16:24, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Arameans article
Hello there, could you please take a look at Arameans article from time to time due to countless edit warrings with a group of national vandalists, such as user Mugsalot, who have successfully established themselves here on English Wikipedia by spreading POV editing. This has been going for the last couple of years. Permanently violating Wikipedia's policy instead of being a neutral encyclopedia, welcoming high-quality academic sources even if it doesn't fit these people's views, which shouldn't matter here. Many thanks in advance. --Optra2021 (talk) 09:01, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 * —— Serial  10:16, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Breitenbush Hot Springs
Hello EncMstr, I have reverted the link you added to Breitenbush Hot Springs because it introduced a link for fundraising purposes. I understand that the commercial facility at the springs area has burned, and am deeply saddened by this event, as well as the ongoing wildfires on the West Coast. I wanted to reach out to you personally in the event that my edit summary came across as snippy. That was not my intention, and I apologize if it upset you, but to my mind, your edit ran the risk of setting a precedent for spam to fundraising sites. Respectfully, Netherzone (talk) 19:43, 16 September 2020 (UTC)


 * No problem. I got rejected by WP's content filter when I tried to add a citation for the earliest possible reopening date.  Unfortunately, so far, the only authoritative source I have found is their GoFundMe page.  Hmmm, it looks like that edit was saved though, and the error I experienced I thought prevented it from appearing.  I left a wikicomment with more details which it looks like you reverted.  But now the "closed" state seems completely uncited.  I'll see if I can find a less spammy-looking source.  —EncMstr (talk) 20:53, 16 September 2020 (UTC)


 * I will look as well, as there may be a news article forthcoming. The fires are a huge tragedy. Netherzone (talk) 20:56, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Nice, you found a good citation, better than the one I found in [Willamette Week. Thanks!  —[[user:EncMstr|EncMstr]] (talk) 21:04, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

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Condolences
Sincerest condolences for your loss. I know I'm a stranger, but if you ever need anything, just let me know. All the best ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia  talk  19:48, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I appreciate the sentiment!  —EncMstr (talk) 03:41, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Breitenbush Hot Springs
Hello, I wanted to leave a personal message that I did not mean any disrespect by reverting your edit to Breitenbush Hot Springs. It is truly tragic the facility there burned in the wildfires, and I hope they are able to recover and reopen soon. I may have been a little trigger happy reverting (and with my edit summary) but only because I've spent a lot of time cleaning up promotional content from hot springs articles. Many of these articles tend to become magnets for spas & resorts to advertise, or to add links to hotel booking sites. Please extend my apologies to Kitteh too. Netherzone (talk) 21:40, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

No disrespect taken. The statement was in the gray region between future prediction and fact. Thanks for cleaning it up! —EncMstr (talk) 21:59, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

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Histmerge
Hi EncMstr. I happened to see User talk:Maxeto0910. If you think that heute-journal is a suitable title, I could go ahead and do a history merge. My only uncertainty is if a full move discussion is needed. What's your opinion? Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 02:51, 29 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for reminding me of that. So much has happened in the months since that exchange occurred, I doubt I would have followed up.  I did note that that one of the articles had almost trivial history, so maybe not much fussing around with it is appropriate.  Please see WP:HISTMERGE for a full explanation of the procedure and customs surrounding it.  Let me know if you need help or admin assistance.  —EncMstr (talk) 06:02, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Just checking
I've missed the updates to the WikiProject_Oregon/Activity for the past two weeks. I hope you are well and will be back soon! Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 04:26, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for alerting me. It seems there is a password expiration problem.  That will take a bit to unravel, but it should run around midnight normally.  Thanks!  —EncMstr (talk) 04:28, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * At last, I think I have it unraveled. The basis of the trouble was that my wikipedia authentication was on an old smart phone (which hasn't been used in 1.5 years) but there doesn't seem to be a way to move that to a newer smart phone.   Sheesh.   —EncMstr (talk) 06:21, 6 October 2021 (UTC)


 * We are becoming slaves to the technical details of our programs originally designed to make our work easier... Glad you came out on top of this particular SNAFU. Thanks for your persistence! Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 06:31, 6 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Looks like updates to WikiProject_Oregon/Activity stopped working again. Hope you can revive it. Darn those passwords! -- Esprqii (talk) 20:40, 22 October 2021 (UTC)


 * It is not a password problem this time. Just as soon as I resolved that, some change to the API broke a lot of aspects.  I do wish there was a log to look through to see what is needed—or, even better, a canned sequence of fixes since this must affect many (if not all) pywiki instances.....  —EncMstr (talk) 22:10, 22 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Ugh. Sorry to hear this is a pain. Thanks for trying to fix it. -- Esprqii (talk) 17:17, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

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Hiking records
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Oregon articles update 2022
Hi, EncMstr. I hope you are doing well. Just wanted to bring to your attention that the page WikiProject Oregon/Admin has not been updated in more than eight months now. Although it appears that you currently have almost no time for WP editing, having made only a single edit since January, I hope you can at least run an update at this time, and maybe every month or two, if not able to do it regularly. Thanks! SJ Morg (talk) 09:13, 13 June 2022 (UTC)


 * I am sad that the interface changed for PyWikiBot such that it broke my scripts and that makes an update difficult especially now since I am challenged physically. My wife passed almost two years ago and then I had a stroke in February.  Life goes on I guess....  —EncMstr (talk) 18:07, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I am so sorry to hear of your troubles (I don't know why I didn't see your response until now, more than two weeks later, as I thought I had watchlisted this page after leaving a message). Please accept my condolences on your wife's passing. Strokes vary in intensity, so (without asking you for any more detail) I hope that you have been recovering from yours and will continue to see progress. Under the circumstances, your absence from Wikipedia is understandable. Best wishes – Steve, aka SJ Morg (talk) 09:25, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I have come a long way physically already and have hopes for more.  Maybe I can resume some of my activity, but the breakage of PyWikiBot really makes me want to use profanity!  —EncMstr (talk) 16:24, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

DB Cooper
Hi: Is anyone monitoring the DB Cooper page anymore? There is a lot of new info that may need some admin review. KatDales (talk) 13:40, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

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