User talk:EnglishShephard

November 2023
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Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Patriotic Alternative, you may be blocked from editing. — Czello (music) 14:42, 24 November 2023 (UTC)


 * I’m only updating with factual information EnglishShephard (talk) 14:43, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Why am I not allowed to update with factual information? EnglishShephard (talk) 14:44, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Because it's not factual. We don't give WP:UNDUE weight to a neo-Nazi party's self description, for obvious reasons. We go with what reliable sources describe them as, because they will only whitewash themselves. — Czello (music) 14:45, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * but putting “states on its website it is a community building and activism group” is a concrete fact. If you go onto their website, it states. Therefore the source, whether reliable or not, says that and it is objectively a factual statement I am making an edit action to. EnglishShephard (talk) 14:49, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Putting it in the lead is WP:UNDUE. Perhaps it might have a place elsewhere in the article, but the lead needs to reflect what the party actually is, not what it calls itself. — Czello (music) 14:50, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah that makes sense, thank you for clarifying. EnglishShephard (talk) 14:51, 24 November 2023 (UTC)