User talk:English rosy

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Thanks for all the great work you've been doing on the Brazil article! Happy editing! -- Razor  ICE  03:13, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Law Section in Brazil page
Greetings.

I can see you’ve made several changes in the article, but I’ve spotted a few mistakes you’ve made in the “Law section”.

1. You’ve replaced the word “Union” with “Federation”, but in Brazilian Law the “Union” and the “Federation” are different things. The Federation is composed by four political entities: the Union, the States, the Municipalities and the Federal District. Thus, the terms “Union” and “Federation” don’t have the same meaning. The Federation doesn’t enact laws – the Union does.

2. You’ve replaced “areas” with “territories” in the third paragraph. When I wrote “areas” whilst writing the Law Section, I was referring to “subjects” or “fields”, not “territories”. The Constitution doesn’t determine which “territories” each political entity will legislate upon, it establishes what subjects they will tackle when producing their laws. Therefore, you’ve made a second mistake here as well.

3. This is being a bit picky, but you when you altered the fourth sentence in the first paragraph, you inserted the word “but” twice, creating stylistic redundancies. I suggest you change that back.

4. In the last sentence of the first paragraph, are you sure the word “pundits” fits the text better than “scholars”?

The remaining changes seem fine to me.

As the original writer of the Law section in the Brazil page, I appreciate all your help, but please be careful when editing technical terms or common words used in a technical context. Points 1. and 2. must be changed back. Points 3. and 4. seem to be a matter of personal preference on style. Sparks1979 23:06, 9 June 2007 (UTC)


 * The problem with "union" is that it also usually means "union trade" or "sindicato". Though I don't oppose to keeping it like that. English rosy 18:12, 10 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Fair enough. Since I'm not a native English speaker, I'm not totally familiar with the best translation of Law terms in Portuguese. Do you have another word in mind instead of "Union"? We need to translate the original Portuguese word "União", but we can't call it the "Federation", because the Brazilian Constitution also uses the word "Federação" with a totally different meaning. As I mentioned above, for Brazilian Law, "Federation" is the entity that encompasses the "Union", the "States", the "Municipalities" and the "Federal District" ("União", "Estados", "Municípios" e "Distrito Federal"). All major Brazilian constitutionalists accept this four-entities Federation system save for one (José Afonso da Silva), who excludes the Municipalities from this context. Perhaps we can use the word "Union" adding a footnote to clear out possible misunderstandings with "union trade" or other similar words.


 * Why don't we use the word in Portuguese instead? I've also changed topic 2 above.


 * I think it's a good idea. We could write "União" in italic. For coherency, we would have to make the same change in the government section, which is fine. By the way, the new words and expressions you picked are good, better than the ones I had used in the first version of the Law section. One more thing - any reason we should use "House of Representatives" instead of "Chamber of Deputies"? I'm a bit uncertain about this one. The original expression is "Câmara dos Deputados", used in the Brazilian Constitution.


 * Thanks for writing the Law section, it is pretty good. I believe deputy means substitute, e.g. "deputy prime minister". If you had some other word in mind, please do not hesitate to change it. Cheers! English rosy

Ok, and thank you : ) Felipe C.S ( talk ) 16:09, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Education and Health in Brazil page
I strongly support the inclusion of this section in the page. Actually, I even want to expand it. I've already voiced out my opinion to João Felipe in his talk page. I think he has made some good work, but I dislike some of his contributions.

Sparks1979 19:01, 18 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi English rosy. Do you speak Portuguese? Felipe C.S ( talk ) 22:36, 23 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi English rosy. Look this Felipe C.S ( talk ) 16:23, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

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