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Tim Winter article link on Plovdiv
Salam alaikum, I have looked over the talk page and article history briefly. InshaAllah I will do my best to help, but first I have a few questions. Also when you get the chance, review the [] page and show it to those who don't want the link included. People may allege bias if they like about just about any external link, but from what I can see no one has provided any outstanding reason why the article shouldn't be included. Let me know if you need anything else. MezzoMezzo 21:13, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I noticed that some other users have also added the same article, so I suppose that it is well known and that other people would like to see it included. Have you messaged any of these brothers or sisters?
 * There appears to be several editors that have removed the link from the article and have expressed opposition to it on Plovdiv's talk page. Have you considered discussing it with them there?

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Image:ShHamzawmadinah2005.jpg
Although I believed it already clear I have re-uploaded it stating it is my own work & under a free license & I sincerely hope I 'm not dealing with an anti-Muslim Xenephobe. Enthogenesis 22:01, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You have to specify which free license you are releasing it under. I recommend GFDL which is the same as your text contributions are released under. Just add GFDL-self to the image. And for the record I am not an anti-Muslim Xenephobe:-). I just delete images that doesnt conform with Wikipedias image policy's. Rettetast 22:09, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Recent edits
Please do not add unhelpful and unconstructive content to Wikipedia. Your edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox.

Your vandalism
You did not post citation for the blatantly biased information you posted on the Yusuf Estes article. I have here what you posted: In 2001 he [allaahuakbar.net/individual_callers/hamza_yusuf/hamza_yusuf_where_did_he_go_wrong.htm posted public criticisms] of Shaykh Hamza Yusuf revealing a literal, wahhabi (see above) or salafi style & anti-tassawuf understanding of Islam, in contrast to the opinions of the 4 main Imams & founders of the 4 main Madhabs of Islam: Imam Malik, Imam Shafi'i, Imam Abu Hanifa & Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal. First of all, whether or not Estes' interpreations are literal, Wahhabi, or Salafi are purely your own opinion and for you to insert that into the article is an obvious violation of the official Neutral point of view policy. Estes does not claim to be any of those things so for you to claim that he is is neither objective nor substantiated; it is just your opinion.

Second of all, your claim that the four imams practiced tassawuf is either a gross misunderstanding or a bold faced lie. You have absolutely no proof for claiming so and I have mounds of authentic proof against what you have said, recorded by the scholars of those very madh'habs as well as these imams themselves. Sufism itself is debated amongst the madhahib, proving even more silly your assertion that all four imams practiced it.

So the page was not asking for this specific reference, as what you inserted to the page was false and biased. The reference did not even verify any of the ridiculous claims you made, so you not only weren't following any Wikipedia guidelines but you were actually violating one (namely, the neutral point of view one I mentioned above).

As far as living in Saudi, it is irrelevant. I know many people who have - one is sitting right next to me as I am writing this - who openly contradict what you have said. While Allaahuakbar.net is a good site and is based in India, much of their material is taken straight from scholars in Saudi, so your accusation that it would be banned as extremist is patently ridiculous.

As for your "point", I removed the link because you posted it to prove a point that it doesn't prove. The link doesn't prove that Estes is "Wahhabi", a literalist, a Salafi, or anti-tasawwuf, as he didn't claim to be any of these things. You were posting your own incorrect assumptions and using the link to try to support them despite the fact that it didn't prove your biased POV at all. Just because you seem to think the material is hateful doesn't make it so; they have not expressed hate for any group. If you really want it up, the letter is also on Estes' own official site, which is the first of the external links, so people may find it there. I didn't remove it because it was already available on his Wiki page.

As far as reporting me goes, go ahead. I more than dare you; I welcome the chance to have it looked at. I can guarantee you that once the Wikipedia administration views the article, not only will they agree that I haven't vandalizd anything, but that I was actually protecting the article from you. Report it if you want, but do so with the knowledge that it will not turn out well for you. Leave the article alone if you can't be objective and please cool off and do your research before posting such diatribes on people's talk pages. MezzoMezzo 20:01, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

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