User talk:Envirodefence

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, the username you have chosen (Envirodefence) seems to imply that you are editing on behalf of a group, company or website.

There are two issues with this :
 * 1) It is possible that you have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, you must exercise great caution when editing on topics related to your organization or adding links to its website.
 * 2) Your account cannot represent a group of people. You may wish to create a new account with a username that represents only you. Alternatively, you may consider changing your username to avoid giving the impression that your personal account is being used for promotional purposes.

Regardless of whether you change your name or create a new account, you are not exempted from the guidelines concerning editing where you have a conflict of interest. For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. (environmentaldefence.ca) --Hammersoft (talk) 16:15, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Your edits to Environmental Defence Canada
Please see Talk:Environmental_Defence_Canada. Thank you, --Hammersoft (talk) 15:13, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, Envirodefence. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with some of the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest. People with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, see the conflict of interest guideline and frequently asked questions for organizations. In particular, please:


 * avoid editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, its competitors, or projects and products you or they are involved with;
 * instead, propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (see the template);
 * avoid linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see WP:SPAM);
 * exercise great caution so that you do not violate Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use require disclosure of your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation.

Please familiarize yourself with relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, sourcing, and autobiographies. Thank you. Neil N  talk to me 15:24, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

I want to emphasize that terms of use require disclosure. --Neil N  talk to me 15:26, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

I also strongly suggest you change your user name to comply with Wikipedia's policies. It's likely you'll be blocked if you don't. --Neil N  talk to me 15:42, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I also concur. Even if you do change your username, the edits you have been making have been non-neutral. We require a neutral point of view in writing articles on Wikipedia. Making entirely unsupported claims such as "(Environmental Defence Canada) is Canada's most effective environmental action organization" is completely in violation of this policy. Writing about things with which you are closely affiliated is possible, but fraught with difficulties. You say all you are "getting is a smack in the face", but what we are getting from you is an editor who is posting non-neutral content to an article about an organization he has a close affiliation with (employed?), who wants to protect the article against contrary commentary for a month until the elections are over, and is willing to revert to his preferred version of the article. Please understand our position. We are writing an encyclopedia, not a compendium of advertising copy from every company and organization in the world. You wouldn't expect to open a dictionary to look up the word "Coke" and find copy there saying "Coke is the best soft drink in the world". We don't expect to read Wikipedia to find unsupported claims of how great your organization is either. That's why we have the Neutral point of view policy. --Hammersoft (talk) 16:04, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

are there some simplified step by step instructions on how to do anything on this site? nothing makes any sense to someone that has never used it before. I would like to know the simply easy way to declare a conflict of interest on editing, do I insert some kind of tag before editing? do I have to click on another link somewhere, nothing makes sense here and it took me way to long to figure out how to even put my reply in here Envirodefence (talk) 16:15, 16 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Copied from my talk page: it's in the requires disclosure page, partially reproduced below:

These Terms of Use prohibit engaging in deceptive activities, including misrepresentation of affiliation, impersonation, and fraud. As part of these obligations, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. You must make that disclosure in at least one of the following ways:


 * a statement on your user page,
 * a statement on the talk page accompanying any paid contributions, or
 * a statement in the edit summary accompanying any paid contributions.

--Neil N  talk to me 16:25, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

is something like "Envirodefence is an account used by Environmental Defence Canada" simple enough for the user page then? Envirodefence (talk) 16:29, 16 September 2015 (UTC)


 * "I work for Environmental Defence Canada" is sufficient when you change your user name. Shared accounts are not allowed. --<b style="color:navy">Neil N </b> <i style="color:blue">talk to me</i> 16:33, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

great! I can't find simple instructions on changing the username so I have created a new account and I will add that disclaimer to the page. when I want to resubmit the deleted content with new language updated links that aren't dead what is the best way to do that? Can I just edit the page with the new account? Envirodefence (talk) 16:40, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The best method is to edit the talk page and make your suggestions there, letting a third party determine if the content and sources merit inclusion and if so how they should be included. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  16:43, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

the link is on the page itself? and do I start it with request edit tag inside the double braces and then put everything in after that? Envirodefence (talk) 16:52, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes. Just follow the instructions in the first section of the documentation on Request edit. Please understand that per WP:NPOV the edits you've been trying to make would never be accepted. We can help you write neutral, secondary source supported prose. --Hammersoft (talk) 16:56, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * start a new section on the talk page, include the template: {request edit}  (only use double braces on each side to activate it's template functions) then add your suggested content / sources below the template. Sign your post. Answer any questions the volunteer responding may have. --  TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  16:58, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

ok, thank you, I have submitted a new section with the user Tcegelw, and I will inform everyone not to touch this account again along with instructions on how to submit changes/additions with their own accounts using the talk function Envirodefence (talk) 19:27, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Welcome
Hello, Envirodefence, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the Wikipedia Teahouse, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type   and your question on this page, and someone will show up shortly to answer. Here are a few good links for newcomers: We hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! By the way, you can sign your name on talk and vote pages using four tildes, like this: &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126;. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  15:51, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
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