User talk:Epicgenius/Archive/2013/Jun

Laisvės alėja
My apologies, I'm afraid I saw and had to contest → Laisvės Alėja (move) – since Lonely Planet and some, not all, English sources do follow the local custom of small a for alleys. It may be that WP Geo MOS and WP Lithuania editors will have differences on this, I don't know. I'm actually neutral, but don't think it qualifies as a TechRequest. Good luck. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:39, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello Epicgenius. Do you want to reply at WP:RM/TR? If a decision can't be reached there, and if the proponent doesn't change their mind, an admin will usually open a regular move discussion on the article's talk page. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 01:06, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem, I am willing to discuss it. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  01:07, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

please help
Hi friend, I have just posted an article The Criterion for Religions (Book). I find an unnecessary "re-direct" Will you please help me how to delete the old redirect page ? Thank you. --Drali1954 (talk) 13:21, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure, but I'm afraid I can't do this myself. You just have to go to this page and enter your request. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  13:24, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

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GA nominations
I hope not to discourage continued good work, but I have quickfailed 63rd Street Line. It needs much broader citations. Please attempt to include an inline citation (WP:IC) directly following each fact. Do not leave any paragraphs without at least one citation. Please familiarize yourself with WP:WIAGA before renominating the article--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:30, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Broome Street
What do you think you're doing to this article? You hid a link to Avenue D under a pipe to Lewis Street, a different street. You added a bizarre link to Lower Manhattan, and you removed a WP:Red link to a notable building. If I didn't know that you're generally well meaning, I'd assume that you're vandalizing the article. Pburka (talk) 01:59, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I though Lewis Street was a continuation of Avenue D (it was Columbia Street.) The building's red link, were it a blue link, would not have been removed, but the building is not notable enough yet that it has its own Wikipedia article. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  17:46, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Please review the WP:Red link essay you linked to. The absence of a Wikipedia article doesn't indicate a lack of notability. Red links are valuable as they help suggest notable topics for editors to write about. Wanton removal of red links does not improve the project. Pburka (talk) 18:53, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't know why the article doesn't exist, then. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  18:59, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't understand your statement. It doesn't exist because nobody's written it yet. Pburka (talk) 19:00, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I meant to say, why did no one care to write it? If it's notable, then someone would have written about it already. This building has existed for decades and the article still doesn't exist, and not one person even tried to write the article. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  19:03, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is WP:NOTFINISHED. It's reasonable to assume that the number of red links increases faster than the number of articles, so Wikipedia will, in fact, never be finished. If we accepted your argument, we would need to block the creation of new articles completely, since new articles would be inherently non-notable (nobody's written that article before)! Until I wrote the Broome Street article last year it didn't exist either, but you wouldn't argue that Broome Street wasn't notable because it didn't have an article, would you? Pburka (talk) 19:14, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Then hide the red link until it gets created! Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  19:22, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * You're missing the point of red links! Read WP:Red link: It is useful in editing article text to create a red link to indicate&hellip;that an article should be created for the topic because the subject is notable and verifiable. One study conducted in 2008 showed that red links helped Wikipedia grow.&hellip;Good red links help Wikipedia—they encourage new contributors in useful directions, and remind us that Wikipedia is far from finished. Pburka (talk) 19:32, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, then; keep the building's redlink. As for the Lewis Street redlink, however, that street is non-notable and the article will not be created anytime soon. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  19:44, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree that Lewis Street probably isn't notable. Please feel free to remove that red link, but don't pipe it to a different street. Please don't make any of the the other changes that were in your first edit. Pburka (talk) 20:05, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Your changes look good, but they weren't minor edits. Please remember to use caution regarding the minor edit tag. Pburka (talk) 20:53, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, next time I'll be sure not to forget. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  20:55, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Hello (2)
Hiya, I just asked a question over on WP:RED about personal names. As an editor of this guideline if you could help me find an answer I would much appreciate it. Thanks. -- MisterShiney    ✉    17:59, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem, I'd be happy to help. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  18:01, 5 June 2013 (UTC)


 * You're a star. Thanks. -- MisterShiney    ✉    18:04, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Bowery vs. The Bowery
Please stop edit warring. Consensus on the talk page is clear that "The Bowery" is the correct and common name. Feel free to discuss, but stop reverting. Pburka (talk) 15:48, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not trying to revert, as either name is common and I am fine with either. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  15:49, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
 * So we're agreed that you'll stop changing the lead and will discuss any changes on the talk page. Thanks. Pburka (talk) 15:56, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Inclusion of non-notables
Hi Epicgenius, could you aid with a rationale for restoring this chart. Per Wikipedia guidelines for schools, and more generally notability requirements, I wasn't aware that a discussion would be necessary to remove this section. The principal is already mentioned in the infobox. Thanks, 99.149.85.229 (talk) 15:29, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I've removed the section again, with an explanation in my edit summary. I've no intent to edit war, and welcome discussion at the article talk page. 99.149.85.229 (talk) 15:59, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, as long as there's an explanation, I reverted it only because it seemed to be a pretty big edit at the time. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  16:28, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, and my deletions followed a recent spate of unsourced negative edits, not to mention an apparent history of those in a promotional vein. Makes one's head spin. 99.149.85.229 (talk) 16:34, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Locating ledes that need improving
Hello, Epicgenius, and thank you first, for welcoming me as a registered user.

Up to now (as a non-registered user), I've always responded to Wiki appeals that say 'The lede may not adequately summarise the article', and I like to think I've done some useful work on these.

Is there any index of articles that carry this particular Wiki appeal? I think it would be a good use of me.

Look forward. Valetude (talk) 14:38, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

There's a wikiproject about that; in case you didn't know, a Wikiproject is basically "a group of contributors who want to work together as a team to improve Wikipedia". This Wikiproject is focused on cleaning up lead sections of articles, which you may be interested in. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions) 00:12, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The pleasure is all mine.

Hatnotes
Hello, Epicgenius. Although many of your edits regarding disambiguation are very good, I notice you have been placing hatnotes on some articles where they are not needed, such as the two Victory Boulevard articles. These two articles are already disambiguated by their titles. The relevant guideline is at WP:NAMB. Admittedly this guideline can be a little difficult to follow. I saw you cite WP:HN a couple of times, but that section applies to cases where, even though a title is not ambiguous (example: Southampton, Massachusetts or Victory Boulevard (Los Angeles)), some other ambiguous title redirects there. For example, if Southampton or Victory Boulevard were redirects that pointed to the Massachusetts or LA articles, then yes, a hatnote would be required, becuase someone typing simply "Victory Boulevard" might be on the wrong article. However, in these cases, Southampton is a primary-topic article with its own hatnote to a dab page that contains the Massachusetts article, and Victory Boulevard is a dab page itself. So anyone on the Massachusetts or LA articles already got there through the dab page, or by directly typing or clicking on a link to the article they want. Therefore they don't need a hatnote to find any other article. I hope this explanation is helpful. 69.95.203.61 (talk) 18:43, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clearing that issue up for me. It really helped out. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  19:32, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Empire Theatre moves
Hi,

While I agree that I should have used the fuller name of the street for the disambiguator at Empire Theatre (41st Street), but you're going to have to find an administrator to fix the copy-and-paste move. Those aren't allowed as they don't preserve the edit history, which is needed for the licensing terms of Wikipedia. Remember that in the future you should use the move tab atop the page, as the new name wasn't in use already. oknazevad (talk) 02:48, 2 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay, next time I'll do that. The problem with the move this time is that I previously moved the page to Empire Theatre (New York City), then moved it back to Empire Theatre (41 St.), then re-moved it again. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  02:52," 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Follow up on a similar note. You recently moved Lyceum Theatre (Broadway) needlessly. "Broadway" was the correct disambiguator, as there have been other Lyceum Theatres in New York. I have attempted to fix it, but it's become even more of a hash. Please be more careful and ensure that a dismabiguator is actual incorrect before "fixing" it. If you see a disambiguator you don't like, take it to the talk page, or at least check the disambiguation page to see that the new disambiguator is not actually more ambiguous, as was the case here. Now I have to get administrator help to fix your mistake. This is not good collaborative behavior; WP:BEFORE is about nominating things for deletion, but the underlying principle of checking the previous efforts before taking unilateral action is a good one for any potentially contentious move. And that includes any and every page move! oknazevad (talk) 06:56, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Date pages
Please don't make scripted changes to the dashes on the date pages as you have done at September 25. The format of the date pages is intentional and shouldn't be changed without discussion at WT:DAYS. Thanks. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 21:05, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

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WP:NOTBROKEN
Please do not unnecessarily "fix" redirects that are not broken, per the above. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:36, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm just moving pages, not trying to fix redirects. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  23:29, 3 June 2013 (UTC)


 * What do you mean by "moving pages"? This looks like you are continuing to "fix" redirects that are not broken. Please explain. Thanks, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:10, 12 June 2013 (UTC)


 * I know, but it's better to have the page itself displayed than a piped link like New York City that redirects back to New York City. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  13:57, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:NOTBROKEN. It will explain why we shouldn't fix redirects that are not broken. Then, please don't fix any more, okay? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:10, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The page you linked to, says "With a few limited exceptions, there are no good reasons to pipe links solely to avoid redirects. It is almost never helpful to replace  with   with New York City (in context, replacing New York City with New York City). It would be a whole lot more helpful if the unnecessary redirect was removed.  Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  16:29, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * How is it helpful? All it does it waste space on the Wikimedia servers by creating more change records. Pburka (talk) 18:05, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Why is there even a piped link in the first place? That's the part that I don't get. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  19:29, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Probably for historical reasons. Perhaps New York, New York used to be the main article, and it was moved to New York City at some point. You could examine the history of the pages to find out. But that's why we have redirects. There's no need to "fix" them. If the community felt that it was important (presumably for some technical reason), the logical response would be to create a bot to replace all the redirects, just like we do for double redirects. What you're doing simply creates unnecessary change logs. A bot would also use edit comments, allowing other editors to see what's happening without resorting to examining every diff. Pburka (talk) 01:34, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Minor edits
Just a reminder: please don't add new content as a minor edit as you did here. Edits which add content, change the meaning of the article, or change visible templates should not be tagged as WP:MINOR. Pburka (talk) 00:00, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * We've talked about this before. You MUST stop abusing the minor edit tag. This was not a minor edit. This is just your most egregious recent minor edit. You've also added many dubious user-visible templates tagged as minor edits. Please make an effort to work collaboratively. Masking your edits under minor edit tags gives the impression of deception, even if that's not your intent. Nobody will complain if you don't use the tag. Pburka (talk) 03:42, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

WP:BRD
You need to read the above and understand what it means. When you make a Bold edit, and another editor Reverts is, the next step in the process is to Discuss the dispute,  not  to revert back, which you have a tendency to do. That reversion is the first step towards edit warring, and it is the wrong step. The article stays in the status quo ante (the condition it was in before the beginning of the dispute, which means before the "bold" edit) and discussion takes place on the article talk page. Please start following BRD. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:02, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * In your edit summary, you pointed out that it's "BRD" not "BRRR", and that is correct - which is why your next step after YOU have made the BOLD edit, and I have REVERTED it is to DISCUSS. The next "R" in that sequence is the first step in an edit war, and violates BRD.  MY "R" simplt restores the edit to the status quo ante, where it is supposed to be while discussion takes place.  YOUR next "R", which you just did today, is again edit warring -- you see the problem? Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:28, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, I see the problem and understand it – unfortunately, your views on Jerome Avenue and Fifth Avenue are different than mine. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  17:31, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Differences in opinion are quite normal. Please take it to the talk page and see what you have in common and the basis for the differences.  If you can't work it out there, see the dispute resolution process. —EncMstr (talk) 17:39, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

You're edit warring on Whitney Museum of American Art. Please review BMK's comments above. Pburka (talk) 18:02, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Your revert at Golden Dragon massacre
Can you please explain your edit comment? I don't understand how it relates to WP:REDLINK. Do you believe that the links aren't notable? If so, please explain that on the talk page! -- don't just revert! (See WP:BRD). If you believe that they are notable, but won't be created soon, then please restore them. As we've discussed before, there is no time limit on Wikipedia. Pburka (talk) 12:26, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Some redlinks are linked, even though they probably won't be created in the near future. It's probably an issue of editors linking things that they personally believe should have an article, even if that article does not exist. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  12:56, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * There's no requirement that articles be created in the near future. Do you believe that the links aren't notable? Google News has many links for "Ping Yuen"; is it not notable? Pburka (talk) 14:23, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * No, what I mean is that people will make links for topics important to the article, even if the links themselves don't exist. For example, Beekman Place has a link to One Beekman Place, the latter of which is important to the former. Obviously, the latter is a redlink. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  14:54, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to understand why you think it's useful to remove the WP:REDLINKs. If the red links are to a notable topic, we leave them in the articles. If they're non-notable (or to a personal name; a special case) we remove them. Do you believe that the links you removed are non-notable? Pburka (talk) 15:52, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The Asian Gang Task Force is definitely non-notable, yes. Notice that I left Commando Mark III there because that was notable. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  18:07, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I think that both of the topics you unlinked may be notable, but they're marginal. It looked to me like you were removing the links because they were red, thus my revert. Pburka (talk) 03:41, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

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New York City [s]ubway
Hello, are you going to put back the links you removed to the NYC subway redirect (with the correct case)? I don't think that was a good use of Twinkle at all ... also I've undone your link removals on archive pages like Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2008 December 3. Graham 87 02:29, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, I am going to put it back, I just used Twinkle so I could find the text more easily when I am undoing my own edits. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  02:44, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Additionally, I have already re-placed about half of the relinked links. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  02:45, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Epicgenius, I don't know what your intention was, but it is perfectly legitimate to have a redirect so that normal sentence case can be used, in the same way that we also have New York Times redirecting to The New York Times so that one can link without the "The". And while the NY subway may be well known, it's not so terribly overkill to link to it, especially in an article about a borough other than Manhattan, where awareness outside NYC is likely lower. Yngvadottir (talk) 04:17, 16 June 2013 (UTC) Anyway, thank you for your concern about my overuse of unlinking. -- Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions) 11:44, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, I know that the redirect is fine. However, many of the pages that have these links also have incorrect information. For example, on the GEM Hotel, the text (before I edited it) said, "It is accessible via the New York City subway, on the C and E lines, stopping at 23rd St." On the contrary, according to the subway's nomenclature, the IND Eighth Avenue Line is the line, and the and  were the services. I assumed that all of the other pages had the same problem.
 * If I understand correctly, then, your concern was that the link should be to the specific line? I'm not sure I see the issue, since "New York city subway" is the whole system and the article then specifies which lines - I suspect that would be the case in many of the articles - but in any case that's not what your edit summary said: the edit summary said it should be capital "s" Subway, and I still don't see that as a reason for delinking (rather than substitution of the case that is the title of the article). So unless I'm misunderstanding something, it looks as though you also need to make sure the edit summaries clearly state your reason when you do something a massive number of times like this. But ... please don't just assume an error you identified in one article is shared by all other articles. I hope you've now reverted the unlinking, but as I say, I may not be completely understanding your reasoning - all I know is that Beverley Squares quite reasonably linked to "the New York City subway" and then specified the line - in the manner you say you prefer, in fact. --Yngvadottir (talk) 12:08, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Another issue that I have is the fact that New York has not one, not two, but three subways (NYCS, Staten Island Railway, and the Port Authority Trans-Hudson). While the latter two do not have a significant presence in the city (each being in one borough only), the use of "Subway" in "New York City Subway" distinguishes NYCS as a separate subway than if one said "New York City subway", which could refer to any of the three subways. It is quite similar to Tokyo subway and Tokyo Metro/Toei Subway. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  12:13, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * But that is indeed a separate concern; when you do a mass edit you need to be particularly careful the edit summaries reflect your purpose, since all a watcher of each article will automatically see is what you did to that one. On this point, however, it's the difference between a name and a noun - New York City Subway is what the MTA uses as the system name, but in normal usage it's "the subway in New York". Yes, technically the PATH is a subway, but it's owned by the Port Authority (unless there's been a recent change) and simply comes into NYC - hence Port Authority Trans-Hudson Railway. (Also it was historically known as the "Hudson tubes", never, so far as I know, the Hudson "subway".) The Staten Island Railway apparently has one tunnel - I had to look that up, I had thought it was entirely surface. In any case, specifying the station, line, or other context should always make it clear that yes, it's the system usually called the New York City subway that's being referred to, and I doubt many articles are really ambiguous in this respect. (You also need to look at the whole context within an article; at Beverley Squares you were injecting information into the present-tense geographical description that was relevant only to the history, and is actually there in the following paragraph, which was about the history.) I respect your ability to use automated editing tools, and your willingness to use them to fix nitty-gritty problems in large numbers of articles, but please make sure it's actually a problem and actually analogous between all the articles; it's now looking clear to me that this was not such a case and needed careful judgment on a case by case basis. --Yngvadottir (talk) 12:29, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info. Next time I'll be sure to think about the context before I perform such mass edits. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  12:32, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Houses at 208–218 East 78th Street
With all due respect I'd like to ask you to reconsider this renaming. Over at WP:NRHP we generally use the name the Register lists the property under if there is no other official or common name (which in this case is indeed "Houses at ..." since the buildings aren't officially named after their address, unlike, say, One Penn Plaza. I have seen no evidence that making a change like this is backed by consensus at WT:NRHP or anywhere else. Daniel Case (talk) 23:05, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the inconvienence, I thought that "Houses at" was not part of the official title (and I wanted to name this article after its subjects' addresses, as in other building articles), but it looks like I am wrong. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  00:10, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem. I'll revert the move. Daniel Case (talk) 03:03, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Edward Snowden
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Requested move of Deadmaus
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PCV/ST
Although they are related projects, Peter Cooper Village and Stuyvesant Town are different. They were built at different times, and have different characters. That we have only one article makes sense because they are related, but in the context of talking about the grid, it makes sense to mention them seprarately, since they were built seperately and therefore broke the grid at different times. That each redirects to the same article is irrelevant. Please don't revert again, and please stop your very bad habit of reverting instead of discussing. Once again, I point you to WP:BRD. You rarely move to a discussion stage until you have reverted several times, but your BOLD edit was REVERTED by me, and the next step is for you to DISCUSS your edit with other editors. If you don't get that, sooner or later you're going to be dinged for edit-warring, so it would be better to learn it now. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:16, 20 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay. Thanks for the clarification. I put them together only because PCV/ST were in the same article. It doesn't make sense to have 2 redirects when you could have 1 direct link, in my view. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  12:28, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

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 * Thank you very much! Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  17:04, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

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NYC Subway Platform Layout
Hello, I wanted to let you know that your platform layouts were a great addition to the New York City Subway station articles. However, I was a little concerned about the ordering of some of the terminals. For example, here you have the E services layout saying "Toward Jamaica-179 Street or Jamaica Center." Although it is true that the E terminates at both stations, since the primary terminal of the E service is Jamaica Center with only a few rush hour trips terminating at Jamiaca-179 Street, I was thinking that the two terminals should be flipped-flopped. Since you were the one who added these layouts to the articles, I wanted see your opinion on this. Mysteryman557 (talk) 14:23, 21 June 2013 (UTC)Mysteryman557
 * Okay, I'll adjust them when I have the time. I'll also add next-station links to some of the layouts. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  14:25, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, that sounds good. If you would like, I could provide some assistance in the adjusting Mysteryman557 (talk) 14:31, 21 June 2013 (UTC)Mysteryman557
 * Any help is welcome. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  14:32, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Speed of light
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 * No problem. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  21:40, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Elisa Izquierdo
Hi I note we have a difference of opinion about what should be in the See Also section. Can we please take it to the talk page if you disagree with my reasoning as per articles which are relevant? Thanks.

PS I note you are improving other sections and I thank you for that.--Kieronoldham (talk) 21:10, 22 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay, I'll discuss my ideas on the talk. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  21:14, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

See also sections
Please read WP:SEEALSO rather than reverting. See also entries should be used sparingly. They should not be long laundry lists of articles that have no direct link to the article in question. See also sections are not the same as categories.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 21:11, 22 June 2013 (UTC)


 * I know that, but the topic of the linked articles in question, is generally very similar to the topic of the article from which I am editing. 21:16, 22 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Similarity is not in itself enough for a see also. There should be a clear and relevant link.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 21:20, 22 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Adding a description of the link, as well as a description of the relation between the two pages, is sufficient. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  21:26, 22 June 2013 (UTC)


 * It is not "sufficient". You must follow the guidelines at WP:SEEALSO. 94.197.88.51 (talk) 13:08, 23 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Which is exactly what I'm intending on doing. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  13:11, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

I was curious about
a rather enigmatic edit that you made on my talk page. Was there more?, Was there less? Is it just started? Or is it a done deal? Or was I in error, you did nothing there at all? Life is supposed to be interesting. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 18:07, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

By the way, congrats on the barnstar. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions) 00:44, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I might have made it in error. If so, then I apologize. What is the edit in question? Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  21:13, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
 * It's [] here and it is not a problem, just a mystery. Carptrash (talk) 23:59, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, OK. In that case, it was because one of the barnstars awarded to you was a template that was left "open", so I fixed it. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  00:40, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and thank you also for the clean-up. Carptrash (talk) 18:30, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

:)
I found your user page interesting and hilarious! #swag! MsScorpioMoon (talk) 17:22, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  17:23, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Neutral notice
As an editor with an interest in New York City articles, you are invited to participate in an RfC at The Dakota. --Tenebrae (talk) 21:25, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

WP:NOTBROKEN (2)
Per the page above, it is not necessary to change links simply because they point to a redirect. If you insist of doing it, however, please leave a link behind, i.e. you're changing "Bowery" to "Bowery" instead of the proper "Bowery". Beyond My Ken (talk) 16:27, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Just leave the links alone, I'm changing them back within the next few minutes. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions) 16:30, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm changing "Bowery" back to "Bowery". Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  16:28, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Please be more careful when using automation. Beyond My Ken (talk) 16:32, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll take caution next time. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  16:34, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

2013 Southeast Asian haze
What did you mean when you said that the 2013 Southeast Asian haze is a heat wave? I am clarifying this as it does not really fit the description of a heat wave. Squc (talk) 05:47, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

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