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Reminder
Roll-out Template:Cite NYCS map. epicgenius (talk) 02:16, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of September 2013 New Haven Line Power Outage for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article September 2013 New Haven Line Power Outage is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/September 2013 New Haven Line Power Outage until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Kb03 (talk) 13:27, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Editing News #2—2018
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Did you know?

Did you know that you can use the visual editor on a mobile device?

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Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has wrapped up most of their work on the 2017 wikitext editor and the visual diff tool. The team has begun investigating the needs of editors who use mobile devices. Their work board is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are fixing bugs and improving mobile editing.

Recent changes

 * The Editing team has published an initial report about mobile editing.
 * The Editing team has begun a design study of visual editing on the mobile website. New editors have trouble doing basic tasks on a smartphone, such as adding links to Wikipedia articles.  You can read the report.
 * The Reading team is working on a separate mobile-based contributions project.
 * The 2006 wikitext editor is no longer supported. If you used that toolbar, then you will no longer see any toolbar.  You may choose another editing tool in your editing preferences, local gadgets, or beta features.
 * The Editing team described the history and status of VisualEditor in this recorded public presentation (starting at 29 minutes, 30 seconds).
 * The Language team released a new version of Content Translation (CX2) last month, on International Translation Day. It integrates the visual editor to support templates, tables, and images.  It also produces better wikitext when the translated article is published.

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 * The Editing team wants to improve visual editing on the mobile website.  Please read their ideas and tell the team what you think would help editors who use the mobile site.
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— Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:11, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Brooklyn Naval Hospital
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Mill Basin, Brooklyn
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Mill Basin, Brooklyn you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Daniel Case -- Daniel Case (talk) 03:02, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Please restore the undiscussed move you made....
...of 8th Street / St. Mark's Place to 8th Street/St. Mark's Place. The space on either side of the virgule helps to show that it is not an actual combined name, but two names on the same article. If you want to open an RM on it on the talk page, fine, but please move it back first, per the reaming I recently got at AN for not doing exactly that. Thanks, Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:23, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
 * The same holds true for York Avenue / Sutton Place. Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:24, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for bringing up the objection. I've reverted the moves and opened a talk page discussion. See Talk:8th Street / St. Mark's Place. epicgenius (talk) 21:06, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I will head over there now. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:09, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Depending on which way the RM falls, could you change the Commons category to match? No need to make an interim change now, I don't think. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:20, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah, sure. epicgenius (talk) 13:28, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Growth team updates #3
Welcome to the third newsletter for the new Growth team!

The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.

Two Growth team projects to be deployed in next two weeks

We will be deploying the "Understanding first day" and "Personalized first day" projects on Czech and Korean Wikipedias in the coming weeks. See the new project pages below for full details on the projects, and our project updates page for their progress.


 * Understanding first day: learn about the actions new editors take right after creating their accounts. We will be careful with user privacy, and we hope to share initial results in December.
 * Personalized first day: learn about new editors' objectives by adding some optional questions to the new editor’s registration process, and personalizing their onboarding. We hope to share initial results in December.

Third Growth team project begins


 * Focus on help desk: direct newcomers to the local help desks where they can ask questions to help them make their first edits. We hope to have an initial experiment running in December.

Best practices for helping newcomers

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Disambiguation link notification for November 11
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 * Grand Central Terminal ([//dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/cgi-bin/dablinks.py/Grand_Central_Terminal check to confirm] | [//dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/cgi-bin/dab_solver.py/Grand_Central_Terminal?client=notify fix with Dab solver])
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New neighborhood maps
I have to say that these maps look pretty bad -- very amateurish. The border around the neighborhood is too thick, and one cannot see anything in the neighborhood - such as the main streets - because the coloring obscures everything. I urge you to stop replacing neighborhood maps, and undo the ones you've changed. If the maps are yours, then I suggest you try again, because this attempt was really not successful. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:07, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
 * These aren't my maps, these were taken from Wikidata. I don't know where the Wikidata maps are from. Anyway, I agree that the border is too thick, though you can just change the zoom level on the map. Also, the previous versions of the maps are in hidden comments, so you can just un-comment these if you want, and remove the newer maps (e.g. in the Chelsea, Manhattan article). epicgenius (talk) 00:35, 13 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Would you say that the map on the center is an improvement? I'm going to add it to the other articles now. (The map on the right is a base map epicgenius (talk) 00:42, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
 * The border onthe center map is letter (less thick and less obnoxious), but is there a way to adjust the transparency of the colored area in the center for that the streets can be been to some extent? Beyond My Ken (talk) 08:09, 13 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Well, it doesn't look like there is a way to manipulate the color background (at least for now). How about one of these? epicgenius (talk) 14:23, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
 * The one on tne right looks best to me, although the border could stand to be a pixel or so thicker. Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:29, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
 * No, the border's fine. Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:30, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
 * All right then. I'll be removing the color background for now. Thanks. epicgenius (talk) 20:57, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
 * No, thank you, that looks so much better. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:47, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

List of tallest buildings in New York City
I see that you reduced the precision to the coordinates to three decimal places, and you added names to them. Can you please explain this? — Eli355 ( talk  •  contribs ) 15:11, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Sure. Coordinate longitude precision to 3 decimal points is approximately 300 feet. The article decimal degrees explains more, but at this latitude, 3 decimal points is around 200 feet. (4 decimal points is about 30 feet, which may be used for further refinement, while at a precision of 5 decimal points, we can identify individual features like tables and chairs.) The names, well, display the name of the building when you click on the coordinate, rather than the page title "List of tallest buildings in New York City". This is especially useful if the coordinates are all exported at the same time, with a template like GeoGroup. epicgenius (talk) 21:54, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Even with 300 feet, in Manhattan buildings are so close to each other, it sounds like this might not be enough. — Eli355 ( talk  •  contribs ) 21:57, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll adjust the coordinates to a 4-decimal-place precision when I get home. Anything further than that may be unnecessary unless the fifth decimal place is a "5". epicgenius (talk) 22:25, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. — Eli355 ( talk  •  contribs ) 19:48, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for East Side Access
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Bergen Beach, Brooklyn
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Your GA nomination of Mill Basin, Brooklyn
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Your GA nomination of Bergen Beach, Brooklyn
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Your GA nomination of Bergen Beach, Brooklyn
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Oops
Thanks for the fix reverting my edit at One Times Square. Uh, the ad-blocker had removed the word "advertising", leaving it as "repurposed as a location", which led to my mistaken change. Oops. Sorry for the trouble. Thanks again! —&#123;&#123;u&#124;Goldenshimmer&#125;&#125;｜✝️｜they/their｜😹｜T/C｜☮️｜John 15:12｜🍂 22:18, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Mill Basin, Brooklyn
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23rd Street reopening in question
Under planned service changes, the date was reverted to December, so I don't know how we should deal with this.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 17:57, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I actually just passed by the station and it was closed. I think we should revert the edits until the opening is confirmed. epicgenius (talk) 21:16, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I've reverted the edits. The walls were down, and the screens, glass fare control, and platform edges were all installed. But for some reason there was a "Exit" sign leaning against the wall. From the looks of it, it seems like they might be ready next week or something. There aren't any pictures, unfortunately, or I would've posted it on NYC Transit Forums, even though I don't really post that often. epicgenius (talk) 21:39, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Penn Station Numbers
The article stated that 630,000 passengers use Penn Station.

And we already know the following: LIRR  - 233,340 NJT   -  93,305 Amtrak - 28,487 Subway - 200,000 = 555,132

Since 630,000 passengers use Penn station, 630,000-555,132 = gives us about 75,000 passengers who arrive and depart Penn station not using any of the above means. Which means they arrive by the only remaining way which are Buses. Mercenary2k (talk) 14:44, 27 November 2018 (UTC)


 * I see, thanks. However, I think ride share and taxis are also included in this total. In any case, I think we should only include the LIRR, NJ Transit, and Amtrak ridership because the subway stations are not actually part of Penn Station, but rather, are connected to it. We can include the subway ridership as a note, but they aren't part of the railroad component of Penn Station (i.e. they don't use the 11 platforms and 21 tracks for commuter/intercity rail, and they each have their own fare collection areas). epicgenius (talk) 14:48, 27 November 2018 (UTC)