User talk:Epicgenius/Archive/2019/Jul

Your GA nomination of PATH (rail system)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article PATH (rail system) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Daniel Case -- Daniel Case (talk) 21:40, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Sunday July 14: Annual NYC Wiki-Picnic @ Roosevelt Island
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DYK for WTC Cortlandt station
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

WikiWednesday Salon & Skillshare format survey
Wikimedia New York City Team 15:38, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for July 10
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businesstelegraph.co.uk in Star Wars Hotel
Hi Epicgenius, I've removed the citation of businesstelegraph.co.uk that you added to Star Wars Hotel (in Special:Diff/872923002) because the linked page is a copyright violation of the Screen Rant article. The businesstelegraph.co.uk domain appears to be a collection of scraped articles from other publications, and we should avoid linking to that domain per WP:ELNEVER. Please see for details. Thanks. —  Newslinger  talk   00:51, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Infobox
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Infobox. Legobot (talk) 04:33, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Uptown Hudson Tubes
Hello! Your submission of Uptown Hudson Tubes at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 20:40, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Editing News #1—July 2019
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Did you know?

Did you know that you can use the visual editor on a mobile device?

Every article has a pencil icon at the top. Tap on the pencil icon to start editing.

 Edit Cards 



This is what the new Edit Cards for editing links in the mobile visual editor look like. You can try the prototype here: 📲 Try Edit Cards.

Welcome back to the Editing newsletter.

Since the last newsletter, the team has released two new features for the mobile visual editor and has started developing three more. All of this work is part of the team's goal to make editing on mobile web simpler.

Before talking about the team's recent releases, we have a question for you:

Are you willing to try a new way to add and change links?

If you are interested, we would value your input! You can try this new link tool in the mobile visual editor on a separate wiki.

Follow these instructions and share your experience:

📲 Try Edit Cards.

Recent releases
The mobile visual editor is a simpler editing tool, for smartphones and tablets using the mobile site. The Editing team has recently launched two new features to improve the mobile visual editor:


 * 1) Section editing
 * 2) * The purpose is to help contributors focus on their edits.
 * 3) * The team studied this with an A/B test. This test showed that contributors who could use section editing were 1% more likely to publish the edits they started than people with only full-page editing.
 * 4) Loading overlay
 * 5) * The purpose is to smooth the transition between reading and editing.

Section editing and the new loading overlay are now available to everyone using the mobile visual editor.

New and active projects
This is a list of our most active projects. Watch these pages to learn about project updates and to share your input on new designs, prototypes and research findings.


 * Edit cards: This is a clearer way to add and edit links, citations, images, templates, etc. in articles. You can try this feature now.  Go here to see how: 📲Try Edit Cards.
 * Mobile toolbar refresh: This project will learn if contributors are more successful when the editing tools are easier to recognize.
 * Mobile visual editor availability: This A/B test asks: Are newer contributors more successful if they use the mobile visual editor?  We are collaborating with 20 Wikipedias to answer this question.
 * Usability improvements: This project will make the mobile visual editor easier to use.  The goal is to let contributors stay focused on editing and to feel more confident in the editing tools.

Looking ahead

 * Wikimania: Several members of the Editing Team will be attending Wikimania in August 2019.  They will lead a session about mobile editing in the Community Growth space.  Talk to them about how editing can be improved.
 * Talk Pages: In the coming months, the Editing Team will begin improving talk pages and communication on the wikis.

Learning more
The VisualEditor on mobile is a good place to learn more about the projects we are working on. The team wants to talk with you about anything related to editing. If you have something to say or ask, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.

PPelberg (WMF) (talk) and Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:25, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Short descriptions
Wouldn't it be easier to say "Cross street..." rather then use the directions, which really don't tell the reader much unless they're already familiar with the grid? Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:54, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, I guess that may be easier to say. However, the fact that the street is west-east facing is also pretty important to each of these articles. epicgenius (talk) 23:55, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Maybe, but the short description is just that, and the direction the street runs just doesn't seem all that significant, as opposed to what's on it. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:58, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
 * All right, so for the future I'll just not put the direction of the street. There are 175 articles that belong to, of which most don't have any short descriptions yet. epicgenius (talk) 00:00, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:06, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Q35 (New York City bus)
Hello! Your submission of Q35 (New York City bus) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 03:34, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Growth team updates #9
Welcome to the ninth newsletter from the Growth team!

The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.

Opening Growth features to more wikis
The Growth team has existed for about one year. During that time, we have developed several features that we think can help increase retention. Though we are still gathering data to detect scientifically whether the features increase retention, we think that some of the features are ready to be deployed on more wikis that want to experiment with them. If your community is enthusiastic about welcoming newcomers, we encourage you to contact us so that we can verify together if your wiki is eligible.

Then, go through the checklist to start the process of getting these features:


 * Help panel: allow newcomers to find help and ask questions while they edit.
 * Welcome survey: learn what topics and types of edits newcomers are interested in.
 * EditorJourney: learn what workflows newcomers go through on their first day.

General news

 * A new quarter of the year has started, and the team has set our goals for the next three months. The most important goals are:
 * Newcomer homepage: increase activity through a task recommendations module. Now that we have seen several weeks of positive activity on the newcomer homepage, we think that the most important thing to add is a way for newcomers to find tasks to work on. The challenge will be recommending the right kind of tasks at the right point of their journey.
 * Newcomer homepage: increase feature discovery rate by 100%. Right now, only 20% - 30% of newcomers ever visit their homepage. We want to double that number by making sure all newcomers know how to find it.
 * Help panel: increase usefulness through improvements to affordance, search, and UX flow. We have looked closely at data and anecdotes from the usage of the help panel, and we plan to pursue specific improvements to increase its effectiveness (see accompanying image of a feature that helps newcomers find responses to their questions).
 * Wikimania is coming up next month, which includes a "Community Growth" space. We hope to see people from all communities there to talk about how to bring newcomers into our movement.
 * We have started to deploy features to our team's fourth target wiki: Arabic Wikipedia. That wiki is the biggest one we target, it has a high percentage of mobile users, and also is our first right-to-left language.  This will help us make sure that our features are valuable for as many types of users as possible.

Mobile homepage and early analysis

 * The mobile version of the newcomer homepage was deployed to Czech, Korean, and Vietnamese Wikipedias. Now, newcomers can access their homepage from both desktop and mobile devices.
 * We have published our first set of data about the performance of the newcomer homepage. In summary, we are happy with the homepage's performance so far. We see about half of visitors clicking on something, and the majority of them returning to the homepage multiple times.
 * Because we see positive usage of the homepage, we will deploy several small features in the next two weeks that help more newcomers discover their homepage (see accompanying image of a feature that helps newcomers discover their homepage from their empty Contributions page).
 * As listed in our goals above, we'll be starting to focus on adding task recommendations to the newcomer homepage. We'll be publishing early thoughts on this feature so that community members can give their thoughts and advice.

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Your GA nomination of PATH (rail system)
The article PATH (rail system) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:PATH (rail system) for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Daniel Case -- Daniel Case (talk) 23:00, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

DYK for JFK Express
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

A Barnstar for You

 * Thanks! I appreciate it. epicgenius (talk) 20:01, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of PATH (rail system)
The article PATH (rail system) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:PATH (rail system) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Daniel Case -- Daniel Case (talk) 17:41, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

A long time coming ... I don't know if there have been any other articles that waited over a year to make GA; actually I wouldn't be surprised if there had been but not in my admittedly limited experience.

I feel invested in it now enough to put it on my watchlist; that will at least give us one more eye that can revert vandalism quickly when it happens.

Are you planning to nominate it for FA at some point? I will see about getting a picture of the Harrison yard somehow if I can, like I said.

I've also been thinking it would, indeed, be a very good idea to have a Wikivoyage page. I haven't done a lot of work there in a few years; maybe it's time I did again. I would also be happy to create an article on that Supreme Court case (US Trust Co. of New York v. New Jersey) so it won't be a red link that would be problematic in an FA discussion; again I haven't created a SCOTUS case article in quite some time but that doesn't mean I'm never doing it again.

I've also been moved to look at the articles in other languages; I've been moved to expand the intro of the French article so it has the same information as the English intro (more or less). Perhaps eventually I could translate the whole article (Have you ever looked at the Mandarin article? I don't know if you edit there; I didn't see your name in the history. But I suppose you might want to look at it if you haven't).


 * Thanks for your comments. I really appreciate the review, especially since you were willing to take this very long article after it sat there for more than a year. I might take this to FA at some point, but not in the near future due to there being so many ongoing projects that will affect the PATH system. Though I have taken articles about ongoing concerns to FA in the past (AirTrain JFK being case in point), the PATH article is going to change a lot over the next few years, especially seeing as how there's OMNY, the Newark Airport extension, PTC, and other projects being developed over the next few years. Maybe when the Newark Airport extension starts and OMNY is rolled out, I might consider a FAC. I just don't want a repeat of this, when I tried to nominate One World Trade Center for FA shortly after it opened. I don't edit Wikivoyage at all, so maybe someone who does can help me format this later. It would be nice to have an article on the Supreme Court case, but that's not my specialty, and I'd be fine with you making it. I don't really edit the Chinese Wikipedia either, but maybe I can expand it sometime. epicgenius (talk) 18:45, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was thinking that it's not something we want to take to FA any time soon given, at least, the extension to the airport getting started. At some point I can get started on the Wikivoyage page ... what we'd probably want is an image that could make a good page banner there when cropped appropriately. I'll have to take a look. Daniel Case (talk) 19:29, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh, BTW, I know all about falling flat on your face at FAC (my only nomination, ever, although there's a lot more I could probably have a better chance with today. Maybe that's why I like article creation more). Daniel Case (talk) 21:23, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Brooklyn Army Terminal
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Brooklyn Army Terminal you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of David Fuchs -- David Fuchs (talk) 15:20, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Miriam Butterworth
I like your suggested hook at Template:Did you know nominations/Miriam Butterworth. Jehochman Talk 16:17, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
 * , thanks, I just approved that now. epicgenius (talk) 16:25, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Re: Deco list
I'm hoping to get my hands on a copy of the latest 4th edition of Guide to New York City Landmarks to properly fill out the list; unfortunately looks like you can't check it out from NYPL so I've got to schedule some time to sit down at the branch. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 18:10, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Francis Joseph Bigger
epicgenius, I was wondering whether you could stop by this DYK nomination that you reviewed and check the recently submitted ALT hooks—though you approved the nomination, you asked for some other hooks, and they have been provided. It would be best if someone checked them out. If you do like one or more of them, please add your comment (and a new tick) below them; if any are problematic (while sources have been provided, the facts do need to be in the article itself), please strike them and note why. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:01, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
 * , thanks for reminding me. I totally forgot about that. I will look at this tomorrow. epicgenius (talk) 02:40, 30 July 2019 (UTC)