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Desecrating
Re https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Insulting_a_monument

Not neutral and UNDUE. See my today's quick mobile edits that it such laws or regulations govern worldwide.

Bows Zezen (talk)


 * I think you may want to address this message to since she is the one who reverted your edits. epicgenius (talk) 16:18, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. I have taken it to the Talk page. Still, I think it is UNDUE, given our earlier exchange there. Zezen (talk) 16:24, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Please take a look at it now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profaning_a_monument#Polish_Law

I posit that the original name and the content of the article itself was a WP:HOAX, as per: Wikipedia requires material to be verifiable to a reliable published source. If challenged, the burden is on the original author to prove the claims in the article.

see its history and Talk why so.

In summary: this HOAX stemmed from the clever usage of a WP:OR own translation of the Polish Criminal Code article supplemented with non-WP:RS translated blogs to claim that it is a unique occurrence which must be advertised as such via Wikipedia to the world. Also its author did not prove their claims when challenged against scholarly sources claiming otherwise.

Please thus be on the lookout for similar attempts at WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS, more precisely this case: [Do not] explain (what you perceive to be) the truth or reality of a current or historical political, religious, or moral issue, ... until it's been reported in mainstream media or published in books from reputable publishing houses [as such, that is under the original article's name]

Bows, Zezen (talk) 11:46, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Please address the HOAX charge above. Zezen (talk) 13:46, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , I have no comment on this matter, other than the fact that you should post this on the article's talk page, not my talk page. epicgenius (talk) 13:49, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

We had posted our concerns on the Talk page and DYK one. You accept DYKs so a copy here. Do take action or pass on. Zezen (talk) 14:00, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , OK. In the future, you can just link the discussion on my talk page, rather than copying over your comments. That would be much easier for me to read. In the meantime, I'll look at the DYK nomination. epicgenius (talk) 14:32, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

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DYK for 20 Exchange Place
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Tweed Courthouse TFA
Great to see the article you brought up to TFA up on the main page! Thanks for all the work you do for NYC articles. --truflip99 (talk) 18:22, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks! I really appreciate it. Thank you as well for commenting on the FAC - the article wouldn't have reached this condition without your input. epicgenius (talk) 19:00, 6 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Yes, thank you for the article about "a historic building in Manhattan, New York City, erected in the late 19th century. Its construction was famously mired in corruption, and Tammany Hall leader William M. Tweed and his political allies siphoned off millions of dollars from work contracts. Much maligned until the mid-20th century, it was designated as a National Historic Landmark in 1974 and as a New York City landmark in 1984, and now serves as the New York City Department of Education's headquarters."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:07, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

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DYK for Liberty Tower (Manhattan)
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DYK for Singer Building
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DYK for Broadway–Chambers Building
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DYK
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DYK for 1 Wall Street Court
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LuK3
You’re in twice ;) Bst, Sandy Georgia (Talk)  15:26, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Never mind ... it was someone else’s error. bst, Sandy Georgia  (Talk)  15:27, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

New York State Agricultural Society
I wrote New York State Agricultural Society yesterday. It seems like it should be a notable topic, but I'm having a surprising amount of trouble finding good WP:SECONDARY sources that talk about it. You're such a better researcher than I am; would you mind taking a look and seeing what you could add? -- RoySmith (talk) 13:36, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for the message. I've added a couple of sources and may look more into it later. Have you considered applying to The Wikipedia Library for free newspapers.com and ProQuest access? I'm seeing some matches, but you might be able to narrow down what exactly you're looking for. epicgenius (talk) 16:05, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , Thanks. Yup, I've already got those through WPL.  I've been sifting through a lot of the old newspaper coverage.  Just thought you might be interested since you seem to be into historical New York topics.  I'll probably turn this into a DYK. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:11, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Home Life Building
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RCTC
I need some help regarding rctc. are these worth adding (check whenever u r free)-  ❯❯❯  S A H A   20:08, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 1) covid19 related issues
 * 2) Tax (GST) related issues ,
 * 3) About riders
 * 4) Details regarding the tournaments,  (also what about adding it to Kolkata Race Course?).
 * 5) Pollution fine on RCTC, translate this. its in bangla
 * , thanks for the note. I think, based on a quick glance, you could briefly describe these points in the article. Though I wouldn't add too much about the COVID-19 issues, unless this has a long term effect on the RCTC's operations. For tournament details, I agree we can copy it to the race course article, too. epicgenius (talk) 21:14, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , I have written regarding the pollution issue in my sandbox, please have a look. Is the size good or it goes into very much details? I think it should have a different section the article, since the issue seems serious. (and no hurries. check whenever u have time)...   ❯❯❯  S A H A   18:17, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , personally, I think this is good coverage but that it's a bit too detailed. I think there's too much mention of the specific punishment, and particularly RCTC's response to this punishment. I would suggest either splitting the paragraphs or cutting down on the details of the punishment. epicgenius (talk) 19:12, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Trimmed some parts and split it into 2. also requested at GOCE.  ❯❯❯  S A H A   19:48, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Addition: rejoined the 2 paras since it was breaking the flow. and not including the other issues, as they arent specific to RCTC. tax/covid affecting all the turf clubs, and the sources also say as a whole.  ❯❯❯  S A H A   15:48, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * One more thing. I need your help formatting the citations (the new ones I added [39] - [43]). Its going over my head.   ❯❯❯  S A H A   16:19, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Emigrant Industrial Savings Bank Building
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DYK for Rockaway Beach and Boardwalk
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DYK for Bennett Building (New York City)
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DYK for Mutual Reserve Building
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Grand Central
Hi - PM'd you about the GCT "secret room" in the news and One Vanderbilt. Did you get to go? Also thought you might be interested that the Untapped article made the Signpost; I commented on it too. ɱ (talk) 01:56, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , I just got your PM not too long ago. Nope, I was unable to go this weekend, sorry about that. Maybe I'll be able to drop by next weekend, though. epicgenius (talk) 16:03, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

service pattern table
Hey man, do you know how to alter the service pattern table to reflect the new E train's routing in effect until November? I'm not familiar with how to alter the table myself. Thanks in advance. —LRG5784 (talk · contribs · email) 14:52, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure, no problem. I just made a temporary table for the time being. Not sure if it's totally correct, so please feel free to tell me if there's any error in the table. epicgenius (talk) 16:03, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Looks good! I modified it to reflect that 179 service operates early evenings as well. I also think that it should be noted in the service pattern table that service at Sutphin Boulevard and Jamaica Center is not running. Other than that, great job! —LRG5784 (talk · contribs · email) 17:04, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Madison Belmont Building
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