User talk:Epicgenius/Archive/2023/Jul

DYK for 81 Willoughby Street
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DYK for BellTel Lofts
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Your GA nomination of Bowery Savings Bank Building (130 Bowery)
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Your GA nomination of Bowery Savings Bank Building (130 Bowery)
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CBS Building
Hi Epicgenius. I reverted you at CBS Building, as your change caused a lot of no target errors. I can't see what you where trying to fix, so I thought I'd just check with you. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 14:40, 5 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the message @ActivelyDisinterested. I actually mentioned the issue on Talk:CBS Building, but that was before I knew you had posted on my talk page. Basically, I use User:Ucucha/HarvErrors.js, and it's showing an error for the Román 2003 reference (in that the harvnb templates may not be parsing the á character properly). As a result I saw an error message reading: "Harv error: link from CITEREFRom%C3%A1n2003 doesn't point to any citation". However, since I'm on mobile right now, I cannot verify whether the footnote is actually broken; I'm just seeing the error message.On the talk page, I suggested fixing this issue by changing the name to "Roman" without diacritics. Epicgenius (talk) 14:47, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I've replied at the article talk page. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 14:53, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi Epicgenius.

Speaking of the CBS Building ... Gog would like to put this one up at TFA on August 16, unless there are objections. John and I have tried to write a blurb for it. John had what I think are some good ideas, adding a few sentences from the article for context, but please feel free to edit this any way you like. - Dank (push to talk) 14:55, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Dank, thanks for the heads up. I would be fine with running the CBS Building as TFA on August 16. The proposed blurb looks good to me at first glance, but I'll take a closer look later. – Epicgenius (talk) 15:02, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I've moved the blurb to a user subpage so it'll be easier to see my revisions. Epicgenius (talk) 20:13, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Castle Clinton
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DYK for Offerman Building
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CBS Building scheduled for TFA
This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 16 August 2023. Please check that the article needs no amendments. Feel free to amend the draft blurb, which can be found at Today's featured article/August 16, 2023, or to make comments on other matters concerning the scheduling of this article at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/August 2023. I suggest that you watchlist Main Page/Errors from the day before this appears on Main Page. Thanks and congratulations on your work. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:57, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

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CBS Building TFA
Hi Epicgenius. The TFA for CBS Building has been rescheduled for 27 August. I hope that is ok. Gog the Mild (talk) 12:26, 12 July 2023 (UTC)


 * That is fine with me. Epicgenius (talk) 13:46, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

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Track centre
I agree that that is the intuitive definition, but in that case it is a line without width. But the same paragraph goes on to talk about narrow or wide track centres, which doesn't appear to make sense. Ehrenkater (talk) 13:56, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah...to be honest I thought it was relatively straightforward; it's the definition given in the track spacing article. However, you bring up a good point. Perhaps the editor who added that meant narrowly or widely spaced track centres (i.e. that the track centres are close to, or far from, each other). – Epicgenius (talk) 13:59, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
 * That sounds plausible. Anyway, the wording needs changing, and you are probably in a more informed position than me to do that.---Ehrenkater (talk) 14:04, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I have just changed "narrow" to "closely spaced" and "wider" to "further apart". I hope that clarifies things. – Epicgenius (talk) 14:05, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Barbizon 63
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40 Wall Street
Congrats on FAC! I have an article that I'd like to bring to FAC and was wondering if you might have time to comment on the peer review. Thanks, voorts (talk/contributions) 18:32, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks! And sure, I can take a look at your PR in a bit. – Epicgenius (talk) 19:10, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you! voorts (talk/contributions) 17:39, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

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Two things
Hello Epicgenius, I hope you are OK and I am not disturbing you. Thank you in advance. Vcohen (talk) 17:17, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) I fixed three of your layouts in articles about Paris (1, 2, 3). If you used this source, it says "voies superposées," that means these are two-level stations.
 * 2) I need your help. This station is claimed to be the deepest in the world. Is there any source in English saying that?
 * Hi Vcohen, thanks for the comment.
 * I'm okay with your first correction. However, I have not updated the Paris layouts in about a decade. I believe the current consensus discourages adding layouts unless they are particularly intricate or unusual layouts.
 * For Hongyancun, I found these English-language sources saying that the station is China's deepest. However, these seem to be Chinese state-owned media, which I'd be wary of using, since Chinese state media tends to be heavily censored. Also, these sources say the platforms are 100 meters underground, whereas the Hongyancun article claims that the tracks are 106 meters underground. If the sources are correct, it is shallower than Arsenalna (Kyiv Metro), which is 105 meters underground. (I haven't checked the Chinese language sources to see whether they repeat the 106 meter claim.)
 * – Epicgenius (talk) 18:00, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. So, let's say Arsenalna is still the deepest. Vcohen (talk) 18:12, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Brooklyn Union Gas Company Headquarters
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Your GA nomination of Castle Clinton
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A barnstar for you!

 * Also a special thank you from me to you for actively engaging with the article's prose, in addition to the work we have completed together. You have helped me along with GA and with certain roller coaster articles and at DYK. Hopefully my skills can match yours as you do with architecture/buildings because your list is insane. Adog  ( Talk ・ Cont ) 02:36, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Congratulations @Adog! That is a great accomplishment, and I am proud that WP:APARKS finally has another FA because of your hard work. I think my role in helping you improve the Iron Gwazi article is quite minor in comparison to the awesome work you have done with this page.I appreciate the barnstar nonetheless, and I'm glad I could help, not only with Iron Gwazi but with other roller coaster pages. I'm also glad that my architecture and building articles have impressed you. I hope this means more APARKS GAs and FAs will be in the making. Epicgenius (talk) 14:13, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you Epicgenius! Minor or not, it was appreciated. I am kind of WikiOgre, but I am hoping to come back to not only promote more articles but to start reviewing them as well (after we can get the new improvements to the WP:APARKS page). Adog  ( Talk ・ Cont ) 18:18, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

MOS APARKS
Hey, it has been a while, haha! I wanted to personally propose to you and some members of WP:APARKS whether we should have a Manuel of style guide for our articles, namely roller coasters, amusement parks, attractions, and manufacturers. Although we do have WikiProject Amusement Parks/Standards for three of the aforementioned, they do not go explicitly into detail about what content may or may not be important or appropriate for inclusion. It could be beneficial for new members and experienced alike, as I do know we have come to a consensus on points in the past, but we do not have an area where we can point to an explanation outside of digging through the archive bin.

Some issues relevant for roller coaster articles to give you an idea are, for instance: what kinds of reviews or polls should we include in reception, what incidents or accidents are important enough for inclusion, what part of the history should be mentioned, and the short and long-term status of roller coasters? Obviously, we may know most of these answers, but newcomers may not. I know when I started out, I read hundreds of our articles to see how previous editors structured theirs and what content they included that was pertinent or important. Passing idea, I am thinking about typing up at User:Adog/sandbox2 and also wondered if you would like to contribute if it is feasible. We all have a good grip on amusement parks and roller coaster standards. Attractions are kinda in the grey area and most certainly manufacturers. Adog ( Talk ・ Cont ) 21:53, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks @Adog. Yeah, it does seem like we need some revised standards for APARKS articles. Many people aren't going to immediately know that routine breakdowns may not be worthy of mention or that certain polls are more reliable than others. I could help out whenever you get around to typing out these guidelines.On a slightly unrelated note, I like the perennial sources and research guide sections. I think these could be really helpful for newer users or for users who don't edit amusement park/attraction articles much. – Epicgenius (talk) 23:43, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

FA opinion
Hello, I would like to try to get Interstate 40 in Tennessee to FA one more time. But, before I nominate, I was wondering, would you support the article in its current form? Thanks. Bneu2013 (talk) 06:34, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Bneu2013, thanks for the comment. I'd be willing to support the article as an FA with a few changes - I've been thinking about the length, and it isn't too long compared to other FAs on this list, but it's definitely on the longer side. – Epicgenius (talk) 15:48, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing you are referring to the route description section. I will try to work on this, but I will point out since the last review I have been able to cut nearly 500 words from the article. But I feel like a hypocrite trying to justify the length, as I have actually been the one to tell other users not to include stuff on multiple occasions. That being said, I'm planning to split the "Music Highway" subsection into a new section titled "Music Highway and honorary designations" with a paragraph about the latter that I have been drafting in my sandbox. Would you still support it if I make this change while cutting down the rd further? Thanks. Bneu2013 (talk) 00:20, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I could definitely support the nomination if you cut down the route description and split the Music Highway section. – Epicgenius (talk) 00:23, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok. Working on it. Will let you know when I am through. On a related note, someone has asked about whether or not railroads should be mentioned in the predecessors section. From my experience, we generally only list highways and trails as predecessors. Do you know if there is a consensus on this? Bneu2013 (talk) 00:40, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Re Do you know if there is a consensus on this?, unfortunately I do not. I could see a case for mentioning railroads, but only if their right-of-way was reused for the highway, or reliable sources report on it. – Epicgenius (talk) 00:53, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Central Library (Brooklyn Public Library)
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Your GA nomination of New York Biltmore Hotel
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