User talk:Epicgenius/Archive/2023/Jun

ReferenceExpander
Just a friendly heads-up in case you weren't already aware, since it's installed on your common.js: Careless use of ReferenceExpander has caused serious problems. It's currently at MFD, and a large cleanup project is underway to repair the citations damaged by the script. I and several other users have !voted that the script be deleted or disabled, and I wouldn't recommend using it at all unless you thoroughly check every reference it modifies against the previous revision. If you're interested in a more detailed explanation of the script's issues, has provided an excellent summary at the MFD. — SamX &#91;talk · contribs&#93; 04:59, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up. – Epicgenius (talk) 13:52, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Iron Gwazi
I know you're busy and got pinged on another review, but if you can finish your review at WP:Featured article candidates/Iron Gwazi/archive1, it would be appreciated. Afraid it will get archived soon from no activity, thanks! --GoneIn60 (talk) 23:22, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @GoneIn60, thanks for reminding me. I really should get on that tomorrow - it would be a shame for the nomination to be archived solely due to inactivity. – Epicgenius (talk) 00:13, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

DYK for The Dorilton
Aoidh (talk) 00:02, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

DYK for The Wilbraham
BorgQueen (talk) 00:02, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

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New state for E-ZPass availability.
Hello, I saw that you created the.

If you can do so, would you please color Michigan purple? Effective June 16th, the Liberty Bridge in Bay City, Michigan, operated by United Bridge Partners, will be accepting E-ZPass as a means of electronic toll payment. Random31908 (talk) 23:41, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Bay City Bridges tolling frequently asked questions — Preceding unsigned comment added by Random31908 (talk • contribs) 23:42, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @Random31908, sure. I actually created the updated file just now. I can upload it by June 16 when Liberty Bridge (Bay City, Michigan) starts accepting E-ZPass. Please remind me to upload the updated file if I haven't done it by then. – Epicgenius (talk) 23:46, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Random31908 (talk) 07:34, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi,
 * Friendly reminder to upload your updated E-ZPass states graphic to Wikimedia Commons. The state of Michigan joined today with the start of electronic tolling at the Liberty Bridge in Bay City this morning.
 * Thanks! Random31908 (talk) 21:19, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ It may take a while for Commons to actually display the updated version, but I've uploaded it. – Epicgenius (talk) 21:30, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Tolls in Bay City? I call that ambitious. Mackensen (talk) 00:02, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Heh. I hope they don't learn from NYC's example... – Epicgenius (talk) 01:52, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Brooklyn Trust Company Building
Aoidh (talk) 00:02, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

Would
Please give the definition of "descriptive". In no way does naming a large city and the year of the incident describe or show the circumstances. Besides, you're on break. Please express what you think on the article's requisite talk page.Knocksocksoff (talk) 21:12, 18 June 2023 (UTC)


 * It does not qualify as a contested move. You're not talking on the talk page so what you are saying is not pertinent. Knocksocksoff (talk) 21:19, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @Knocksocksoff, "2006 New York City plane crash" is descriptive enough because it was the only major crash in New York City that year. There is no need to make the title longer than it needs to be, per WP:PRECISE and WP:COMMONNAME. If we did need to disambiguate, we would distinguish first by month ("October 2006 New York City plane crash"), then by a more specific location ("October 2006 Manhattan plane crash"), then, if it was really necessary, by date ("October 12, 2006, Manhattan plane crash"). The last name of the people involved is not an intuitive piece of information for the title, so it should not be used for disambiguation.By the way, it is irrelevant whether I'm "on break". If someone objects to a bold move, like I just did, the next course of action is to discuss it on the talk page, not to move it back, per WP:BRD. – Epicgenius (talk) 21:20, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
 * You are not right. You don't comprehend what common name and precise mean. You could research what outlets called the crash. It really doesn't matter what you think about this because when the title is changed you will eventually go along with it. You will be outnumbered. Knocksocksoff (talk) 21:23, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
 * It really doesn't matter what you think about this because when the title is changed you will eventually go along with it. You will be outnumbered. - Okay, then you can open an WP:RM and see what other editors think about it. – Epicgenius (talk) 21:25, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Bayard–Condict Building
RoySmith (talk) 00:03, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of New York Marriott East Side
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New message from Osarius
Osarius 08:24, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Adam Neumann
Hi Epicgenius. I am reaching out to you since you are clearly interested in everything "New York." I recently posted the following edit request here:Talk:Adam Neumann. As you probably already know, Neumann is the founder of WeWork, a New York based company. I am hoping you might be interested in taking a look, and implementing the request if you agree it adds useful information to the article. Thanks for your attention. Carlos for Neumann (talk) 05:51, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the message. Edit requests are not my specialty, but this information looks good at first glance. However, I would need to take an in-depth look, which I will not be able to do until the weekend. – Epicgenius (talk) 01:06, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi there. This is a gentle reminder, if you can, to take a look at my edit request to add a Philanthropy section to Adam Neumann's article, as explained above. Thanks again. Carlos for Neumann (talk) 09:49, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @Carlos for Neumann, unfortunately I don't feel comfortable enough to carry out this edit request myself; I will have to let other editors decide on whether to include this info. I do have a few comments:
 * The first paragraph and its sourcing looks good.
 * For the first sentence of the second paragraph, you may want to use an English source such as the Times of Israel, per WP:RSUE.
 * For the second sentence of the second paragraph, Neumann had previously donated approximately NIS 1 million to Hapoel Petah Tikva, I'd suggest looking for reliable sources about when Neumann first donated to the club, if possible.
 * I also do not know if the following sentence should be included: According to the team, the money will be used to fund community and youth sports initiatives. This sentence seems reasonable to include, as it helps explain what the funding will be used for, but some editors might consider it undue weight and highly speculative.
 * Sorry that I can't be of more help. – Epicgenius (talk) 23:53, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi again. Your input has been extremely helpful. In the interest of getting more eyes on your response to my edit request, would you mind posting your above message at Talk:Adam Neumann? Once again, thank you. Carlos for Neumann (talk) 11:12, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Sure, I can do that in a bit. Epicgenius (talk) 13:32, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

The Core Contest winners announced
The winners of the 2023 The Core Contest are announced 🎉. We had an amazing set of improvements this year, and the judges (, and ) would like to thank everybody who joined and congratulate the winners.


 * First place goes to for improving  The Holocaust; very core, highly relevant; their work on bringing geographical balance to the article puts the topic in a whole different light. We also commend improvements to sourcing and prose
 * A close second place goes to for improving Education from an unstructured jumble into a well-sourced piece of instruction
 * Third prize goes to for improving  Donatello, a near five-fold expansion with great sourcing and fantastic imagery
 * A tie for fourth place goes to for improving Crime, for a strong improvement in sourcing
 * A tie for fifth place goes to for International law, improved by converting contextless listicles into a proper sourced prose

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Waldorf-Astoria
Hi, it seems to me that you're just deleting info that you don't like or are not interested in, or think is not useful, with the excuse, that it isn't sourced. What exactly has to be sourced? That Walddorf evolved into Walldorf or what? I hope you realize that you're deleting the essential info, that the famous expression Waldorf in fact means Forest Village. Also, the info was there since 2020, i hope you saw that too.Ringflower11 (talk) 18:54, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi @Ringflower11, it is not that I do not like the info. On the contrary, it is very interesting, and I was hoping to keep it in. Unfortunately, I was unable to independently verify the etymology of the town of Walldorf. The page about the town itself does not mention that the town's name comes from an elision, or rather, anything about the town's name at all.Furthermore, you also added some analysis of the translation, rather than saying flat-out that the name Waldorf translates to Forest Village. I don't think mentioning that the town's name is a translation of "Forest Village" is controversial. However, the text In German, "Waldorf" (with one l, like the hotel) means "Whale Village" (Wal = whale, Dorf = village), and "Walldorf" (with two l's, like the town) means "Rampart Village" (Wall = rampart). does need a citation, per our policy Verifiability. Otherwise, this addition may be considered original research. The same goes for An oak tree in the coat of arms of the town refers to this etymology, but I imagine it's easier to find a source for this.That said, if you have sources for these etymologies not being correct, that would be great. I'm actually trying to find sources for this myself. – Epicgenius (talk) 19:01, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Actually, I have found a source for Walldorf being a translation of "forest village", rather than either of the two other etymologies. I've re-added your text to the article, within a footnote, as the exact specifics of the etymology are only tangential to the subject of the article itself. – Epicgenius (talk) 19:10, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Could you please add the whale and rampart thing as well by sourcing it with an online dictionary, because that's the funny thing about it that it means whale village but all the Americans don't know about it.
 * The German Walldorf page says:
 * Walldorf wurde am 20. Oktober 770 anlässlich einer Schenkung an das Kloster Lorsch im Lorscher Codex als Waltdorf erstmals urkundlich erwähnt. Funde aus früher Zeit belegen allerdings, dass schon seit langem Menschen an dem Platz siedelten, an dem das spätere Dorf im Wald entstand.
 * Quelle means source, spring (hydrol.), well (hydrol.).
 * One can further read about the coat of arms:
 * Die Blasonierung des Wappens lautet: In Rot auf grünem Boden ein silberner Eichbaum mit Eicheln. Es geht zurück auf ein Siegel, das erstmals in der Mitte des 16. Jahrhunderts auftauchte. Es zeigt eine Eiche, die wahrscheinlich wegen des Ortsnamens Wald-Dorf gewählt wurde. Das Wappen, das Walldorf seit 1900 führte, zeigte eine Eichenstaude. Nach langen Bemühungen um eine Änderung, wurde schließlich 1967 wieder ein Wappen mit Eichbaum verliehen. Die Flagge Walldorfs ist Weiß-Rot.
 * But the whale and rampart thing is of course not mentioned.Ringflower11 (talk) 19:27, 22 June 2023 (UTC) Ringflower11 (talk) 19:27, 22 June 2023 (UTC)


 * That is very helpful; thanks. I'll add it now. – Epicgenius (talk) 19:33, 22 June 2023 (UTC)


 * The same could be done for the etymologies of "Hamburger" and "English", another two of the most American words. I think Hamburger derives from the city of Hamburg. Burg means castle, the Ham thing i don't know.
 * But the German Wikipedia tells us:
 * Im 8. Jahrhundert entstand die namensgebende Hammaburg als sächsischer Adelssitz. Der Name „Hammaburg“ wurde das erste Mal 834 schriftlich erwähnt. Der Name leitet sich vom altsächsischen Wort "ham" her, das in der neueren Forschung als feuchte Niederung oder Bucht übersetzt wird. Die Burg lag auf einem Geestsporn in der Alsterniederung, nahe der Alsterfurt, und war sowohl über die Flüsse Alster und Elbe als auch an alte Handelswege wie den Ochsenweg verkehrsgünstig angebunden.
 * "English" derives from a peninsula called Anglia (Halbinsel Angeln) and i think the root is "eng", which means narrow, because there is a narrow fjord called Schlei.Ringflower11 (talk) 19:51, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of New York Marriott East Side
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