User talk:Epicgenius/Archive/2024/May

Some questions
Hi there. I understand you're into the topic of "transportation within the NYC area". I wanna ask about some stuff, but they're not wiki-related (maybe except Commons). Would it be okay if I ask the questions somewhere off wiki (maybe Discord/email etc) so I don't clog up this page? If you want to keep it here I'm okay also. Thanks. S5A-0043 Talk 13:21, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


 * @S5A-0043, sure. If you're in the WP:DISCORD server, you could reach out to me there (my username there is ryanmng). If not, I could answer your questions on-wiki. Epicgenius (talk) 13:28, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I think I interpreted wrongly & sent you a DM instead (apologies about that), so could you answer over there? My account name is same as my WP username. S5A-0043 Talk 13:46, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of The Dorilton
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Your GA nomination of Hell Gate Bridge
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RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins
Hi there! Phase I of the Requests for adminship/2024 review has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus:

See the project page for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far :) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II. theleekycauldron (talk), via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:08, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Proposals 2 and 9b (phase II discussion): Add a reminder of civility norms at RfA and Require links for claims of specific policy violations
 * Proposal 3b (in trial): Make the first two days discussion-only
 * Proposal 13 (in trial): Admin elections
 * Proposal 14 (implemented): Suffrage requirements
 * Proposals 16 and 16c (phase II discussion): Allow the community to initiate recall RfAs and Community recall process based on dewiki
 * Proposal 17 (phase II discussion): Have named Admins/crats to monitor infractions
 * Proposal 24 (phase II discussion): Provide better mentoring for becoming an admin and the RfA process
 * Proposal 25 (implemented): Require nominees to be extended confirmed

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Your GA nomination of The Dorilton
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 * Congrats! a truly wonderful article. If you have time, I have an article up for GA, Dia Bridgehampton, which may fall under the type of articles you have interest in. I would be honored if you would consider reviewing it.--Found5dollar (talk) 20:54, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Hell Gate Bridge
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DYK for 287 Broadway
RoySmith (talk) 00:03, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

TFA
We thank you today for Felix M. Warburg House, introduced: "This article is about another of the great houses that once lined Fifth Avenue in New York. Specifically, this is the mansion of Felix M. Warburg, a Jewish financier who ignored fears of anti-Semitic reprisal to his decided to build himself a big Gothic manor in the middle of New York City. Although the Warburgs no longer remain, their legacy does: the museum is now the home of the Jewish Museum (Manhattan) and the building largely survives as they left it. It's a beautiful building and I hope you will all enjoy it."! - in memory -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:44, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Magdalena Hinterdobler is also on the Main page today, together with an opera that reviewers deemed not interesting and too obscure for our general readers. The soprano thought differently, - listen and see. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:26, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks Gerda, I appreciate it. This TFA is also a pretty good commemoration of Vami's work, so thank you as well for nominating this to TFA. – Epicgenius (talk) 13:12, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
 * That was the least I could do. He was the most promising project member, and so great to work with. Just recently, we had different topics. Another one I nominated is already scheduled for 1 June, the one where our teamwork was at its best. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:34, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Doom (2016 video game) - today's TFA is again by Vami --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:57, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I noticed it yesterday evening, but I actually forgot about that till now. That is a very good way to honor Vami, I think. – Epicgenius (talk) 23:04, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * yes, and as we several with this intention there will be 3 more soon - I look your DYK today but am sad that this beauty is not pictured - did you listen and see the soprano? - today's story has a pic of a woman holding her cat, a DYK of 5 years ago - the recent pics show 2 orange tip butterflies --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:47, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Admittedly, I did not listen to the soprano yet, but I'll probably listen to it when I get home. That is a nice picture of Schoop holding a cat. Epicgenius (talk) 15:57, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks! I appreciate it. Epicgenius (talk) 16:49, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Bartow–Pell Mansion
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DYK for Isaac L. Rice Mansion
WaggersTALK  00:02, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Isaac L. Rice Mansion
I had to correct the coordinates for Isaac L. Rice Mansion, which pointed onto Riverside Dr nearer to 88th St than 89th. Please take greater care in your work. Abductive (reasoning) 05:54, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Oops, sorry about that. I was using an automatic infobox generator and forgot to check the coords. – Epicgenius (talk) 13:14, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Salvation Army Headquarters (Manhattan)
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DYK for Eldridge Street Synagogue
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DYK for Central Synagogue (Manhattan)
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 27 May 2024 (UTC) Thank you! - Congrats to getting the building pictured, - I wasn't as lucky for yesterday's. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:03, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Salvation Army Headquarters (Manhattan)
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Your GA nomination of Salvation Army Headquarters (Manhattan)
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June 2: Hacking Sunday (+preview of June 8 Wiknic)
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Was Marble Hill cut off from Manhattan Island in 1817 or 1895?
Have you seen this edit for Marble Hill, Manhattan? The article had previously stated that it has been cut off from Manhattan since 1895, which is when the Harlem River Ship Canal was completed. It was changed -- and sources were added -- to say that it was cut off from the rest of Manhattan Island in 1817, when a canal 30 feet in width was completed by expanding two streams between the Harlem and Hudson rivers. Is this enough to have cut it off from the rest of the island? Meanwhile, the article for Spuyten Duyvil Creek treats the 1817 construction as relatively minor, saying that "By 1817, a narrow canal was dug through the south end of Marble Hill at approximately 222nd Street, known as 'Boltons' Canal' or 'Dyckman Canal'." and that the 1895 project involved a "canal [that] would be 400 feet (120 m) in width and have a depth of 15 feet (4.6 m) to 18 feet (5.5 m). It would be cut directly through the rock of Dyckman's Meadow...", which seems to describe a much more thorough and complete separation from the rest of Manhattan Island.

So my bottom line question is should the article for Marble Hill (and other, related articles) say 1817 or 1895 as the literal cut-off date? Alansohn (talk) 14:01, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @Alansohn, good question. According to page 16 of this archeological report, the canal first cut off Marble Hill from the rest of Manhattan in 1817, citing Tieck's 1968 book. Strictly speaking, it looks like 1817 is the date that Marble Hill was separated, though the original canal was 30 feet wide. That canal was widened between 1888 and 1895.Since the original canal was so narrow, people in the 19th century might have still considered Marble Hill a peninsula, but I haven't checked to see if this is in the sources. (This is similar to how people don't consider New England an island just because the Erie Canal exists.) – Epicgenius (talk) 14:18, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I like the Erie Canal as a model, which was originally 40 feet wide and 4 feet deep, even wider than the 1817 canal, yet no one thinks that the Erie Canal cut anything off from anything else.Page 11 in that same report describes the 1817 canal as a "a narrow east-west canal that was dug as a mill stream" that was a "minor alteration" (i.e. not a big deal), but then says that it "dramatically changed the configuration of Manhattan Island, cutting off Marble Hill to the north" (i.e. a very big deal). The sources for the 1817 canal are certainly good, but what's not clear is if anyone at the time or in the ensuing decades thought that the neighborhood that we know as Marble Hill had been cut off from the rest of the island or if that didn't happen until 1895. Is that archaeological report from 1984 accurately describing history of what people thought back in 1817 or -- in its own way -- defining that history retrospectively?I do not know the answer, but I want to plant this seed in your mind to be on the lookout for confirming evidence either way, as the article for Marble Hill and related subjects should all be both correct and consistent with each other. As always, thanks for all of your work and all of your insights on all things New York City. Alansohn (talk) 14:47, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @Alansohn, thanks, I appreciate it. As to the archeological report, that is a retrospective. I haven't yet looked into 19th century sources to see whether contemporary people thought Marble Hill was an island between 1817 and 1895. – Epicgenius (talk) 14:52, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of The Wilbraham
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