User talk:Erachima/Archive 03

This archive contains topics 51-75 made on my talk page. Its history on the main talk page ends at this edit.

Sigh sigh sigh's warnings
Thanks for your comment; his comments were deliberately rude, and the additions of tags at the top of that article were pure WP:POINT. Jayjg (talk) 02:09, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Actually, it is clear you have had problems understanding Wikipedia policy, as it is also clear from our previous discussion a couple weeks ago and your not-so-sound advice on Jayjg's talk page. SighSighSigh 02:40, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 * His advice was good; please stop placing spurious and uncivil warnings on my Talk: page, and please stop violating WP:POINT. Jayjg (talk) 02:42, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I would second that - please do not disrupt Wikipedia by adding bogus warning to people's talk pages. - CrazyRussian talk/email 02:49, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Consistancy
I don't know if we're looking at different definitions or something, but article consistancy is exactly my reason for changing "Gomu Gomu" to "Gum Gum". Having Luffy's attacks being called "Gum Gum" whatever at one point in the article and then "Gomu Gomu" at another point will just confuse the reader. And yeah, you're probably the 5th person or so to comment on me not archiving my talk page. I'm just lazy. The Splendiferous Gegiford 18:41, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 * So then you're saying you'd rather have the articles be full of inconsistant naming until the series ends? The Splendiferous Gegiford 18:57, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Is WP:ANIME policy? I saw the discussion page. It seems like the editors have not reached consensus over what the policy means. WhisperToMe 02:11, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

":Like I said there, if it ment "use the Official english version no matter what", then that clause has no point in existance. It HAS to mean "fans determine the usage"." - Wikipedia was not just written for fans of a given series. It was also written for average Joes who have no prior knowledge of a subject. Also keep in mind that not all fans of a given television show are part of the long-standing fan culture of the original shows. See, on Wikipedia, one must try to consider what works best for the broader audience. The average Joe probably will be exposed to One Piece through official book versions and versions on television. WhisperToMe 02:51, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

WP:VINE talk
Greetings Tjstrf, seeing as you've already been involved with User:Centrx concerning the illogical nature of sending WP:VINE to WP:VIE you might like to join the similarly natured discussion over on Talk:WP:VOTE. Essentially User:Centrx is trying to do the same thing with the WP:VOTE redirect (despite a WP:VIE having a corresponding WP:NOVOTE redirect). I need to step away from the computer now. Thanks. (→ Netscott ) 07:22, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Background on Terryeo
Tjstrf, I suggest you take a look at this page:Requests_for_arbitration/Terryeo --Fahrenheit451 02:11, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Just a note
Not trying to accuse you or anything, but just FYI 'blond' is correct (as is 'blonde') for describing light hair. However, because the word is used in French where the final 'e' is added for females, it's usually best to say 'blond' when referring to males or objects perceived as masculine. At least, this is the style I follow. You may of course choose to ignore this. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 20:49, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Kannadiga
Hi,

Saw your comments on a couple of talk pages. Kannadi per se, is not any swear word that I know of. The problem is that it just doesnt mean anything. Of course in Kannada Kannadi means 'mirror'. So I hope you see the absurdity of calling Kannada speakers(or Kannadigas) "Mirrors"! Just doesnt make any sense!

And whats more, mahawiki is doing it out of spite. The first time I asked him not to do it was probably a month ago. And he retorted on some talk page saying... "wow.. he(thats me) doesnt like it! so I'll use it!!". not just me, but you can ask any Kannadiga, they'll take exception to being addressed as Kannadi, not because it is a swear word(atleast not in Kannada) but because its simply absurd and can probably be construed as being made fun of(who knows what it means in Marathi). Offensive or not, it is at best a slang.

mw's excuse that kannadigas are called kannadis in Marathi is lame. Gross ignorance of South Indian languages and customs in Northern India is not rare and that might explain Kannadigas being addressed as Kannadis. For that matter, Indians(and all others in the world) have their own terminologies to refer to people of various nationalities, ethnicities and races. That doesnt mean we start using it on en.wikipedia. Sarvagnya 20:22, 21 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Karnatakan may well be the intuitive English word for a native of Karnataka(on that count why not Karntakaian? or Kannadaan or Kannadaian). Point is, these terms are never used, not even by international english authors. The only other term that has been used to refer to Kannadigas is the anglicised Canarese.  But that is an old colonial usage(not offensive, may I hasten to add) and has fallen into disuse(since the last many many many years).

And no, he isnt adding it on the article pages yet(atleast hasnt caught my eye if he has), but there's no saying that he wont feel emboldened to add it on the article pages either(in future). Also, like I said, every Kannadiga will first react with surprise when first addressed as Kannadi. But will certainly take exception if he/she realises that it is being done out of spite and not out of bonafide ignorance.

So if he continues the use of it even on the talk pages, and even if i start ignoring it myself, rest assured, someone else(a Kannadiga) will rake this up again when he sees it. So its better we put a stop to this now. Sarvagnya 20:57, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello, Im not being stubborn but if u notice Sarvagnya also uses words like "Marati" for Marathi, Marathis for Marathi_people.His latest post in my inbox reads (check my talk page if u want) ..."And dont hide behind meaningless google hits which only maratis can read. Interestingly, google also gives a hit for Chatripati Shivaji. So right, Chatripati Shivaji(wow.. the name sounds so coooool), he is and will be from now on...

Insistance of Kannadig is like insistance of Bhartiya instead of Indian and 'Marathi manoos' for Maharashtrians. The user Sarvagnya is just taking revenge of his failure at Belgaon page where he tried his best to remove Marathi transliteration.

And yeah I dont insert the term into articles. Kannadi is term used in West India for residents of Karnataka. mahawiki 04:03, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Knuckles
Do you constantly refresh the knuckles page to guard it against Falsities?
 * Someone's seemingly never heard of a watchlist... --tjstrf 21:38, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

still pretty sad

Thanks
Thanks for your message on commons, that will help us to send this user in space. Currently, he is already block on commons, fr, it and de. :] Yug 23:07, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Clearing this up
I never accused anyone of anything. I said that his actions appeared elitist, but I never actually called anyone elitist. Lordshmeckie 02:46, 22 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Call it what you want, I said what I said. I didn't call him elitist, just that his actions were. Now, I'm done arguing this. It's silly. Lordshmeckie 02:51, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Er, I don't FEEL uncalm...
re Protecting children's privacy I don't get your comment? I am calm. However, I'm not very happy about the process that is going on that page. I don't care that much about the proposal, let it stand or fall as it will. I don't, however, think it's right or fair or proper to slap a Rejected tag on a discussion that is very much alive, productive, and running at above 2/3 in favor -- and then protect the page, and call "edit war" if that's not allowed to stand. Now I've just seen an admin unprotect the page and immediately and completely trash the text of a proposal, about one step above just blanking the page.

I'm calm, but I'm also determined that that sort of thing just not be allowed to stand, if I can do anything about it. If I just walked away and said Meh, let them have their way, that would not show calm, that would show weakness and laziness.

Am I missing something here? Herostratus 03:12, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Erm. I see what you're saying. I'll cogitate on that for awhile. Herostratus 03:48, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Nah. I can't buy it. If he wanted to improve the article, he wouldn't have gone along with slapping a premature "Rejected" tag on it and then protecting it. If he wanted to advance his version he could have posted a draft on a subpage and not blanked the page -- and it was page blanking, you know (and so was the diff you showed me, for that matter). And there's all the other stuff too. But I do genuinely appreciate your input! Cheers, Herostratus 04:32, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. But there are a number of people that are pretty disgusted by it, I see. Herostratus 04:50, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
I'm not sure, how about this one?  &gt; R a d i a n t &lt;  12:52, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

The Halo's RfA



 * Hey tj, thanks for the encouragement ;) Th ε Halo Θ 19:57, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Glad we settled that
I'm glad that we settled that matter, I'm not the type of person that goes around doing that sort of thing to everyone on Wikipedia. I obviously am not proud of it, I have had a few run ins with people in the past but lately I've been editing with causing any disturbances. I know the chances of us working together are pretty slim, but when Super Power Warriors comes out (2007/2008) perhaps we can work together on that, seeing as how I already have a template for it. Thanks again for being so forgiving. - The preceding comment was made by Grevenko Sereth 16:10, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Contradict

 * THANKS! - Jmabel | Talk 04:03, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Hey Thanx
Hey, thanx for your reverts on Maratha Empire page. -- N R S | T/M\B 10:53, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

All-Interval Tetrachord
I hope I’m doing this right. Anyway, thanks for your warning about my All-Interval Tetrachord article. I did it in multiple saves. I hope it’s better now.S.dedalus 23:05, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your help :-) S.dedalus 00:01, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Lolicon
"We'll just have to block you"? You're not even an administrator. As for the discussion, it's just too obvious that you're looking for excuses to censor editors. I'm sorry, but I don't have conversations with liars or with people who lack respect for the basic human right of expression. You're probably too young to understand, anyway.--Jreem22 06:12, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Jimbo is the one who suggested having the links there. And Jimbo is paranoid about copyright violations (that's his pet peeve). Wikipedia is not responsible for links to outside sites. Give me a break, please.--Jreem22 07:01, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Bleach infobox
The hiding feature is nice, but the type that offers to expand the area is too small to read on my screen. Also, I think the actual fact of hiding some publishers creates POV issues. I think we should use the normal infobox for standardization. I'm sure another solution will present itself. Dekimasu 10:03, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Maybe if the English publishers were also hidden, just leaving the original publisher, it wouldn't have that POV problem. I still can't read the text, though. Dekimasu 10:13, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I like the info box hide thing too, but i think you should add the english publisher to the other too this way its fair. Also you should hide the networks that air it too this way it isnt just the manga publishers that get hidden. Malevious 14:55, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I think you should put the infobox hide/show option on more animes. Expecially ones with long lists such as Naruto and Yu Yu Hakusho it would make the anime articles much more tidy. Malevious 01:54, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

English
You wrote, All of which is just meaningless rhetoricizing.

I have skirts that are older than you and if you didn't understand what I wrote it might be because you have neither sufficient experience nor knowledge to keep up. I very humbly suggest that in the future, you tone down the arrogance and brush up on your reading skills. Whatever. Thank you and have a nice day :) Wyss 17:46, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Because my age is oh-so-relavent to the fact that nothing you said had any solid reasoning in it, instead relying on the use of guilt-by-association parallels between Wikipedia and MUD chat programs... Yes, very arrogant of me. Cheers! --tjstrf 21:20, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

3RR Tag Team
I don't know how to handle the situation appropriately -- its true. Be aware that there is significant history between the parties involved:. Also, note how nicely editing of another template I recently suggested can go with different individuals involved: Template:Israel-Palestinian Conflict --Ben Houston 23:09, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Also be aware there is a significant history of Ben Houston wikistalking (e.g.  ), falsely accusing and generally disagreeing with both editors. Jayjg (talk) 23:18, 3 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Interesting, I did recently create that template Template:Israel-Palestinian Conflict] and add it to a bunch of articles as one of the ones you point to above. I also created the article of the parent organization of Media_Watch_International as well as many other articles in the same class.  You also seem to edit articles that I edit such as Engage (organization).  And with regards to the September 30 article, your contributions list is publically available, as you first told me when I accused you of wikistalking .  --Ben Houston 23:24, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

My user pages
Let me explain. I edit Wikipedia from work. I use my User page dozens of times a day. My connection at work is not fast and therefore my user pages must remain small. Secondly, people can also see my computer screen, not just in the office but also outside through the windows and I am also not the only person who uses this PC. I don't want pictures on a startup page because of this. --Squilibob 07:42, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

My user page
It is MY user page. the 3RR policy you linked to says it does not apply to user pages. I am tired of being harassed by BhaiSaab and have already filed for advocacy against him. If he wants to control the article that much, fine, he can fucking have it, I'm tired of his harassment and just want to edit in peace.Uzumaki 20:35, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I am tired of this. BhaiSaab is running a bot and harassing me. You know me, I know you from the Naruto page. I am normally a civil person. I am getting increasingly tired of being harassed and lied about. If you want me to leave wikipedia, fine, I'll fucking leave. There's no point to it anyways when an asshole like him is let to harass me over and over even after I've told him to his goddamn ugly face that I won't edit his precious article any more. Uzumaki 20:40, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

File a checkuser in addition to that 3rr report. BhaiSaab talk 20:42, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * You're accusing me of lawyering when you are making up "policy" as you go? How arrogant! Uzumaki 21:09, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Why a sockpuppet should be so concerned with policy is perplexing. BhaiSaab talk 21:11, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * How about BECAUSE YOU ARE FUCKING HARASSING ME! Is THAT a good enough reason? You just keep lying and attacking me and lying some more, and harassing me, and using a fucking bot to harass me. I already told you, I wouldn't edit that article any more. You can fucking have it. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT? Uzumaki 21:19, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I would like for you to admit that you are a sockpuppet, of course. BhaiSaab talk 21:20, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * That would be lying, and unlike you, I'm not a fucking goddamn liar. Uzumaki 21:26, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

OK, but if you file a 3rr report, that may turn out difficult for me to do. BhaiSaab talk 21:14, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

3RR is relatively insignificant considering the issues at hand. BhaiSaab talk 21:15, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Give me 30 minutes before you file the 3rr report. BhaiSaab talk 21:18, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I see that you have already filed it. Nevermind. BhaiSaab talk 21:21, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Please don't take the bait.
User:Freestylefrappe has been playing the policy game for a long time. If you wish to help contructively, inform yourself on the case and discuss the problem on the relevant noticeboard. Thank you. Jean-Philippe 20:45, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Jean-Philippe is just trying to harass me. I already told him I would not touch their goddamn article any more. Uzumaki 20:46, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * This guy seems pretty good at this game. If he hadn't cited policy anywhere like a normal new (vandal) user, he would already be blocked, I'm sure. BhaiSaab talk 20:57, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

You're playing a game harassing me BhaiSaab. Quit it. Just LEAVE ME ALONE. What part of that can you not fucking understand? I already told you I wouldn't edit that article any more. Ever. WHAT THE FUCK MORE DO YOU WANT? Uzumaki 21:16, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps next time you could assume that some established users know what they're doing. BhaiSaab talk 01:09, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

What you don't appreciate
All they had to do is stop harassing me, and this didn't need to go anywhere. Instead, they kept lying about me and harassing me.Uzumaki 22:11, 5 October 2006 (UTC)