User talk:Erachima/Archive 07

This archive contains topics 151-175 made on my talk page. Its history on the main talk page ends at this edit.

Bleach
hi, sorry if i alter the page i was saying (about the vandalism ) because i watch alot of user altering the page  alot of users sorry  im not a expert in wikipedia ,im a amateur editor can you forgive me? im so guilty for this User:Sins 23:42, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

are you in charge of bleach episodes?
if you re an editor of bleach are you in charge of the list of the episodes? if yes, how did you notice of the sipnosis of the episodes if no t it doesnt matter i just want it to know se7en 23:52, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

YES YOU ARE RIGHT
it doesnt matter, spanish is my natal idiom , you re an editor right ? did you edit the article :list of bleach episodes ? if you did it where did you get that information about the recent chapters? if not, it doesnt matter i just want it to know  Sins 00:04, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Supported an arbcomm
Yes I have. If you are interested in who they are, go into my contributions. I made all my votes on Thursday at about the same time. --ScienceApologist 13:31, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

anime manga project member
you re a member of the manga anime project right? how can become oneSins

STOP DELETING MY CONTENT!
WHICH PART IS "PERSONAL ATTACH?"

Moderators from mailand China

Even though Wikipedia is blocked in mainland China, it actually has the largest number of moderators for the Chinese Wikipedia.

The capital city - Beijing actually has 6, Shanghai has 6, Guangdong province has 6, Hunan province has 1, Jiangsu province has 3, Shanxi province has 1, Shandong province has 1, Zhejiang province has 1, Heilongjiang province has 1, Hubei has 1, other areas has 2. Total of 29.[12]

[edit] Controversies

According to International Herald Tribune Asia-Pacific:"on sensitive questions of China's modern history or on hot-button issues, the Chinese version diverges so dramatically from its English counterpart that it sometimes reads as if it were approved by the censors themselves." [13]

"[Some] say the object should be to spread reliable information as widely as possible, and that, in any case, self-censorship is pointless because the government still frequently blocks access to Wikipedia for most Chinese Internet users. 'There is a lot of confusion about whether they should obey the neutral point of view or offer some compromises to the government,' said Isaac Mao, a well-known Chinese blogger and user of the encyclopedia. 'To the local Wikipedians, the first objective is to make it well known among Chinese, to get people to understand the principles of Wikipedia step by step, and not to get the thing blocked by the government.'" -- from new york times. -- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SummerThunder (talk • contribs).
 * Go read what I said on WP:VPM already. No point repeating myself here. --tjstrf talk 03:02, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

SummerThunder's NPA violations
I believe it's up to sysop discretion to determine what constitutes "threats, whether legal, personal, or professional, that in any way are seen as an attempt to intimidate another user" or "conduct [that] severely disrupt the project". (Blocking policy) -- ran (talk) 02:56, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's true that I feel a bit too involved in this discussion to do any blocking. =) The situation isn't that severe yet though, since there are several other sysops following him around; he hasn't messed up too many articles yet; and if he keeps going and spreads out, more sysops are going to notice anyways. In any case, if he continues and no one notices, we'll ask at WP:ANB. -- ran (talk) 03:06, 30 December 2006 (UTC)


 * and are you a little too much? this is a talk section for user tjstrf.

"On December 1, 2006, The New York Times published another report by Howard W. French, titled as "Wikipedia lays bare two versions of China's past."“
 * Some say the object should be to spread reliable information as widely as possible, and that, in any case, self-censorship is pointless because the government still frequently blocks access to Wikipedia for most Chinese Internet users. 'There is a lot of confusion about whether they should obey the neutral point of view or offer some compromises to the government,' said Isaac Mao, a well-known Chinese blogger and user of the encyclopedia. 'To the local Wikipedians, the first objective is to make it well known among Chinese, to get people to understand the principles of Wikipedia step by step, and not to get the thing blocked by the government.	”


 * And "the articles are already pre-censored by party-leaning moderators and users." and you are the one of the moderators


 * --SummerThunder 03:05, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Ran can make comments here if he pleases to do so. Even I am not allowed to control who posts to my talk page if they are not being disruptive, you certainly can't. --tjstrf talk 03:08, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

STOP DELETING MY CONTENT AND STOP REVERTING WHAT I WROTE!
everything I wrote in Blocking of Wikipedia in mainland China is the truth. STOP DELETING MY CONTENT AND STOP REVERTING WHAT I WROTE!--SummerThunder 05:00, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Please review the guidelines on Civility. Aggressive language is not constructive. –Gunslinger47 05:46, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

exactly, here is what this user wrote when he reverted the aricle Blocking of Wikipedia in mainland China, "revert edits by disgruntled banned zh.wiki member with a conspiracy and an axe to grind against the Chinese admins." agreesive reverting behavior is not contructive, personal attack is not allowed. --SummerThunder 06:10, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Which was a true statement, and I provided a link to vouch for it. You have yet to explain the relevance of your additions outside of your anti-zh admin paranoia. --tjstrf talk 06:26, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

You have yet to explain the relevance of your additions outside of your support-zh admin paranoia. which is beyond normal. --SummerThunder 19:58, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

STOP REVERTING everything i wrote!
stop reverting the NEWS that I posted in the NEWS section of the village pump. you know nothing about the world if you are really 17! --SummerThunder 19:57, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * This is an ad hominem argument and is, by dictionary definition, a personal attack. His age does not instantly invalidate his opinions.  I'm having difficulty following your current plight, but I am at least familiar with the current policy on the English Wikipedia.  Please do not make personal attacks on this user. –Gunslinger47 21:57, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

excuse me?
Any reason why you reverted what i wrote in the trivia section of Tokyo Mew Mew?? That was not vandalism, which is making me assume you didn't really read what i added. &quot;THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!&quot; 09:36, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I didn't call your contribution vandalism. It was simply speculative, personal commentary, and badly written. --tjstrf talk 09:49, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Generally, people read an article of a subject they know about. I never have read an article and never knew the subject, as that would confuse me beyond help.

Go read the Tokyo Mew Mew mangas, and see the untranslated words for yourself. That would make question how tokyopop could have missed these words. I assuming you nerver read Tokyo Mew Mew which would make you think, not know that it isnt orginal research, so wouldnt know the untranslated words. Keep in mind that the target audience for tokyopop is around 10 yrs old, so i try to provide as much as possible. It is NO WHERE near orginal reseach if i have the mangas and always read them when im about to add something..it was not badly written. &quot;THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!&quot; 23:28, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

edit: actually, with an accusation like that, you should have read the manga then accusing me with orginal research. &quot;THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!&quot; 23:43, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

So, in other words, you could have easily re-wrote what i add, as opposed to deleting all at once, which what bothers me the most, because you discarded it all as personal comments and orginal research. Yet you still haven't answered if you have read Tokyo Mew Mew. &quot;THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!&quot; 23:50, 31 December 2006 (UTC)


 * The trivia section does seem quite bloated. –Gunslinger47 00:00, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * (( Woo, 00:00. Happy New Years UTC, Tjstrf! )) –Gunslinger47 00:02, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Could you tell her that? I'm having a difficult time getting my point across here. 8 hours left for myself. --tjstrf talk 00:04, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

......I"m not a boy..if saw my user page...... its already said that the only reason why the trivia section is big is because how its spaced out, due to the kanji, for people who dont know japanese.&quot;THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!&quot; 00:09, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry, her then. I use him as a neutral pronoun when I don't know a person's gender. --tjstrf talk 00:11, 1 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I suggest splitting the color/name trivia into its own sub-section. Further, the other bullet points ought to be made more concise.  Aim to fit trivia onto only one or two lines per bullet point. –Gunslinger47 00:30, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

No-threat policy
Wiki has a non-threat policy - do not try to threat other contributors. You are violating it by making threats.

'unholy alliance' is a rhetoric usage common in English, and it's referred to my perception on zh.wiki. It's absolutely not personal attack. You are simply making up excuses trying to silence others. Please, stop. Do not abuse your power. --Uponsnow 12:42, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * No Personal Attacks disagrees with you. --tjstrf talk 13:01, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for making the distinction. Since English is not my native language, I've submitted the question to others so I can get native speaker's response. Again, Ad hominem is an enjoyable reading. In fact Chinese speakers are committing such logic fallacy every day. --Uponsnow 13:18, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

After carefully reviewing the policy, I am convinced that 'unholy alliance' does not qualify a personal attack, but 'out of your mind'(? I think I didn't say such thing) may be a borderline case. I certainly should have rephrased it if I did say it. Thank you. --Uponsnow 13:21, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Gosh, I find the second quote. I said 'I hope he was out of his mind' when he said certain thing, means I wish it's only a mindless mistake - he didn't mean what he said. It's certainly not personal attack, but a defense on his behalf. Maybe I'd better find another way to say it. --Uponsnow 13:26, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

What is up with me
Please see User talk:Jmabel. - Jmabel | Talk 01:46, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Category:Military brat
A few months ago, you voted to delete a category:Military brat. It has been reintroduced and once again is being nominated for deletion. The discussion is here. I am contacting you so that you can revisit the discussion, but before doing so please read the article Military brat (U.S. subculture) as the term is not POV and is a highly researched subject. The previous discussion was done before I got involved, but I think you will find out that this is a credible subject worthy of its own category. Balloonman 22:19, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Barnstars and whatnot
You might be interested in seeing how User:Samuel Blanning organizes his barnstars. It's pretty slick. –Gunslinger47 23:09, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Ok - so I'll avoid it (HTML) then. Haha, actually I think I need to start limiting my questions, I've been to the table and infobox page, and I asked 4 questions about tables and 2 about infoboxes (and if I get an answer and I don't understand the answer - there will probably be more). Thanks a lot for your help though I really appreciate it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Danielfolsom (talk • contribs).

Do I need to do anything else for this page?
Hey I'm sorry for asking you (I said I asked a lot) another question, but could you take a look at this page, - I added everything that's not the article (just the delete and for other uses thing), but it seems like I need to do something else - if you could respond on my talk page i'd really appreciate it. Danielfolsom 04:10, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry
Oh - ok, I thought I might have to like contact Wikipedia about it (I didn't know putthing the db spam on there actually notified Wikipedia, I thought it just warned the writer I was notifying wikipedia). Sorry bout the signature thing, I just completely forgot Danielfolsom 04:10, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Wo
I GOT IT!!! THanks you sooo much for your help! (turns out it actually doesn't work in IE - meaning me switching actually prolonged this thing for 20 minutes, haha sorry for spamming ur talk like this, I'll erase everything before this). Danielfolsom 06:58, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Response
Well, if they're under reform, let's give it a few weeks. I doubt it's that much of an emotional issue really, except for some of the keep-voters the debate was pretty much rational.  &gt; R a d i a n t &lt;  11:47, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Kombucha
Hi, your vandalism revert to Kombucha mentioned me and popups and I'm not sure why. I made the edit before the vandal, not the vandalism. Please let me know if I did anything wrong. Alexwoods 14:48, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Semi-protecting your user page
Hi Tjstrf, I was wondering if you'd like your user page to be semi-protected for a while? This way we can stem some of the vandalism that's been going on recently.

If you want, I can also protect your talk page. What do you prefer?

-- ran (talk) 23:24, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd really prefer not to have my talk page protected, since I get enough conversations with new users that it could be potentially harmful. Besides, any time it's vandalized I get a big orange warning flag anyway. Do semi the userpage though. Thank you. --tjstrf talk 23:30, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Done! I've left the tag out coz I'm not sure whether you'd prefer it, for aesthetic reasons etc. Happy New Year btw. =) -- ran (talk) 23:33, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. You could've used the little floating padlock in the corner, but I guess it's not that important to inform people that my userpage is semied anyway. Happy new year to you as well. --tjstrf talk 23:49, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

The disturbed IP has just now been given a two-day vacation from WP. -- Hoary 00:52, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

PSH
That's actually kinda funny, I was editing my page the whole time - so i didn't realize he was doing anything. If you need any help getting your page back or something feel free to ask (I didn't notice if your page was normal or not). Danielfolsom 01:15, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry I didn't mean that in a mean way, I was saying it's funny because I was working on my page (adding templates) the whole time, I had no idea he was making any changes.
 * Danielfolsom 01:45, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Question:
Wait, I just realized that my email was changed, was that the spammer guy (I was working on voting and contested deletion articles - man I need to stop working on things and pay attention!) Danielfolsom 02:11, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

OH
Sweet, thanks! If you ahve time I have a question about the Wikipedia deletion policy. Assuming some people don't want the page deleted, can you do a vote in the talk session of the page as to whether or not to keep the deletion? Danielfolsom 02:31, 3 January 2007 (UTC)