User talk:Erachima/Archive 15

This archive contains topics 351-375 made on my talk page. Its history on the main talk page ends at this edit.

Page move
Please remember that page move support/oppose votes belong on the article's talk page, NOT at the WP:RM page. Georgia guy (talk) 00:50, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Whoops, forgot about that. Sorry. --erachima formerly tjstrf 01:05, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Ooh err
I take your comments very seriously and blp very seriously and was not being dismissive just concise. Hey, best wishes. Thanks, SqueakBox 01:26, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Vanishing
..Is going HEY GUYS I'M VANISHING in all your edit summaries really the best way of going about it? Because it's on my watchlist, like, 12 times right now. --erachima talk 07:22, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Do I feel it is ideal? No, but I expect people would complain about incorrect edit summaries if I didn't say what I was doing and why, and there's apparently no other way to do it except to do it myself.   Unfortunate, but I don't feel that staying on Wikipedia in order to implement a better way is in my best interest.  If you wish to do so, I will however, applaud the attempt.  In the mean time, I'm going to stick with what I can do, which is to remove the user name references which continue to spring up in search engines as that is the best I can do.   FrozenPurpleCube (talk) 07:25, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Many songs in the world
It's a big world out there - Roop Kumar Rathore is in the movies! Roop Kumar Rathod - alternate names: Roop Kumar Rathore. And maybe "Machis" was supposed to be Maachis? And this was just the first place Google brought me. Well hey! The third ghit was Roop Kumar Rathod ! And searching on "Roop kumar rathore" would get you to the same place (second hit on search here) Big place here, bigger place out there... :-) Shenme (talk) 08:40, 4 April 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem. I just get interested in anything that looks like Indian English (or Strine) as an exercise in how we can communicate in this shared language. And how English 'advances' (cough!) on multiple fronts.  I'd heard about the invention of 'prepone' years ago. ("Terribly sorry, sir, but due to scheduling needs your flight was preponed.")  And also here I came across an article proudly detailing how a private/local group had "metalled" a town's roads.  Which is an old English usage kept on in India. So... I get a "what's this new thing then...!" attitude, and go looking around. :) Shenme (talk) 04:31, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Notability (fiction) archiving issue
I'm not sure you should have archived that the way you did -- I believe that normal archiving practice would be to archive sections where there hasn't been any change in a few days, not sections started a week ago. Several of those sections had edits from today, for example, and the discussion, however painfully and tediously long, was still going on. Anyway, just my two cents' worth... thanks. -- ArglebargleIV (talk) 19:22, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Zanbato
I think we've already discussed this, but I'm not digging through your archives to be certain. I initially suggested removing the myriad of pop culture references altogether many, many months ago, so I've got no problem with it. However, the games Final Fantasy VIII and Final Fantasy X actually do reference the weapon by name. I don't see why you'd want to remove the only semi-credible information that's been added to the bottom of that page in years. "Final Fantasy only" is not what I was going for, as you probably noticed I removed the bullshit addition about Cloud Strife's "big sword" resembling a zanbato in the same edit. Nevertheless, call it as you will, I'm not gonna argue. I'm pretty much done with Wikipedia these days. Gamer Junkie T /  C 07:45, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I wasn't being biased or hypocritical at all. The additions you've mentioned, every last one of them, have never mentioned that the weapon used by Ruroni Kenshin or Naruto or whatever else is specifically named a zanbato or similar Japanese translation. If indeed they are, then by all means add them with references that prove this. Quotes from characters or game manuals will suffice. "Cavalry Sword" is not adequate. If you must, use the original Japanese translations where the weapon is labelled "zanbato". I would be more than happy to keep them if you were to do this. Not only would it provide the article with much needed referencing, but it would stop the constant additions that make no reference whatsoever to the weapon as a zanbato simply because it's a "big sword" or "looks like one". Gamer Junkie  T /  C 08:37, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't understand. Why didn't you simply add them yourself? It could have saved us quite a bit of hassle. Gamer Junkie  T /  C 09:10, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Self evident perhaps to somebody familiar with the mangas and animes or somebody who visits articles about those characters. Most people don't, like myself. You need references for each and every article, that's how it works. Otherwise it's OR. Gamer Junkie  T /  C 09:31, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I would appreciate it if you'd stop speaking to me in such an obnoxious manner. This is nonsense. There were no references or links to other such articles of any kind. You know this. As far as the gaming goes, I'm not a fan of Japanese pop culture such as anime and manga. To suggest that I, or anybody else for that matter, should know this information already is completely unfair. Gamer Junkie  T /  C 09:57, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry to butt in but, I was thinking, would it be too much if I re-added Zabuza Momochi and Kisame Hoshigaki from Naruto, who also wield zanbatō-sized swords? Or do you folks really want a WP:SOURCE confirming such obvious statements? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 18:02, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I would say no. "Zanbato-sized swords" could just as easily be zweihander. Both are big swords designed to cut down horses and pikemen, but they aren't the same weapon. A zanbato is a specific weapon. It would be the same as adding a fictional gun from a game based on a real gun and passing it off as that. Unless there is actual proof that these weapons you've mentioned are actually zanbatos, you shouldn't add them. If you look at the article now, you'll see what I mean, as Erachima has already added references for a couple of the swords mentioned. Gamer Junkie  T /  C 06:05, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Your comments at WP:FICT
I note your comment at WT:FICT and would be grateful if you could try and remain civil. --Gavin Collins (talk) 19:35, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Himura Kenshin
Started a new discussion here. Feel free to join.--Tintor2 (talk) 16:01, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Note
Just to make you aware of the section ("ruined Wikipedia") at User:U-Two. It includes you (first). StewieGriffin!  &bull; Talk Sign Listen 14:52, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Bleach-related deletions
It appears that Collectonian is at it again, this time seeking to delete several articles, one of which survived 2 previous AfDs (Soul Reaper (Bleach)). Links: Cheers, Ynhockey (Talk) 18:01, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) Soul Reaper (Bleach), Hollow (Bleach), Bount
 * 2) Zanpakutō

Ghosts of Onyx GA review
Thanks for the review. I have a few clarifications to make. First off, I added a character section, but I was unsure about what information could be used to make a 'publication' history section. Secondly, about the Dyson Sphere... it actually is in the heart of the planet, so you'll have to blame Nylund for creative license... :P Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 02:27, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks for the clarification. I'll pop you a line here when I'm done. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 03:26, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Does it look better now? I'm going to add some text citations for a bit of it, but in terms of what you were looking for to pass. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 03:37, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your time, I was a big GA reviewer before I graduated to FA :P I've added a few more sentences to each so they are all at least 3+ sentences long; better? Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 19:28, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Re:List of Bleach antagonists
Fair enough. I consider "antagonist turned into friend of protagonist" not to really be an antagonist per se, but I can see where you're coming from. The relevant model was List of Naruto antagonists, which is a bit easier to classify. For the characters that were antagonists stopped being so, they're listed in the "Other characters" section of List of Naruto characters. I can see that this is more problematic for Bleach, but again, I wouldn't really consider Byakuya, Ishida, Renji, and so on to be antagonists per se in the greater context of the story. Ideally, the Bleach antagonists list would have Aizen, Gin, Tosen, the Espada, whatever random arrancar we care to include, and notable hollows (Grand Fisher is the only one that comes to the top of my head). sephiroth bcr ( converse ) 05:24, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Loli in Canada
Your re-deletion of data is being disputed on the talk page. Please address your concerns more specifically so this can be resolved. Tyciol (talk) 10:26, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Philitas of Cos
Thanks for the review and for the fixes to Philitas of Cos. Eubulides (talk) 03:05, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

GA reviews
FYI, GA reviews are now done on a subpage that is linked to on the GA nomination template. I believe this was primarily done for the purpose of User:GimmeBot updating the ArticleHistory template correctly. sephiroth bcr ( converse ) 03:52, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Just a hello
Hey tjs ... uh .... Erachima; just wanted to give you a hello since i had only recently come back from a very long wikibreak, and I wanted to see how are you doing. I hope you're not still involved in that Negroid debate - I expect that's still going on .. lol-- daniel folsom  03:58, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh very nice! I've mainly been working with spotlight, and I'm actually making a lot more mainspace edits than I did before; although, with the start of school coming & with me trying to get back to work on Wikipedia in other areas, the frequency of my edits will probably drop down pretty soon. From a distant perspective your article seems pretty solid; I wish I could review it myself, but sadly I probably need a refresher on WP policy, and even then I'm not familiar at all with articles on that subject, but I'm sure you'll find someone soon! Good luck, and thanks for the response; it's great to hear from you.-- daniel folsom  04:37, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Oh really? I didn't know that about WP:GA! Thanks! Hey - if the article isn't done within 2 months (which it'll probably be - but you never know, sometimes editors can be lazy (whereas I'm usually lazy, but have bursts of energy at inappropriate times – haha, I'll actually have to force myself to edit less when school starts- can't afford any more mediocre grades :!), then I will review it. I say two months because that's probably how long it'll take me to remember everything :)-- daniel folsom  05:18, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Whedonesque.com GA review
Per User:Nixeagle/GA, the reviewer has been owing me a re-review of the article for several days now. If you wouldn't mind reviewing it, I'd appreciate another set of eyes on it. As is, if you'll review the talk page, I do appear to have addressed all the reviewers concerns--the only remaining question was whether they had been addressed satisfactorily. Jclemens (talk) 05:27, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Mesoamerican ballgame GA review
Thanks for your GA review of the Mesoamerican ballgame article. I've done a couple of reviews (3 now) and it's not an easy task. Appreciate your help, Madman (talk) 21:53, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Underoath GA review
Hi Erachima, I saw that today you passed Underoath as a GA. Just wanted to say that I didn't intend to abandon the review; I was meaning to give the editor his time, and for the most part I've been keeping up with the comments made at the review page (except for the past few days, maybe). Thanks,  Jamie ☆ S93  02:40, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Ike (Fire Emblem)
The target article doesn't discuss his role in the Smash series, so why is the category relevant? - A Link to the Past (talk) 05:12, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * In further reading, it does, but it shouldn't - the Smash information is not relevant. - A Link to the Past (talk) 05:16, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Reply
Awesome, thanks for the clarification.  Sui get  su  22:09, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Carnatic music content dispute
. Please see the discussion page - this content was removed as it violated NPOV policy, which like BLP policy, is critical to this encyclopedia. Ncmvocalist (talk) 07:36, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I suggest you retract that vandalism claim. Ncmvocalist (talk) 07:59, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply is at ANI. Thanks again for your help in letting this article go backwards even more - Naadapriya's effect on it was simply not enough. Ncmvocalist (talk) 08:33, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It's a bit of both I'm afraid. Inaccurate bits: (1) Ugabhoga was the origin of improvisations and (2) Ughabhoga is integral to a Carnatic music concert. No scholar actually has encountered this wild imaginary thought, particularly 2, which is why a source to back it up is not something that can be done and it goes back to the reliability of the original source. As for the accurate part - yes, it is sung in the Carnatic music repertoire nowadays in the same way a Viruttam or Sloka or Thillana is - but it's not the most common and significant form in Carnatic music, which is why like those 2, it should get a mention as it currently does in the compositions section. Ncmvocalist (talk) 09:33, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Jarlshof GA
Many thanks for your prompt and succinct review! Ben  Mac  Dui  08:15, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Siege of Bangkok
Hi Erachima. Re. your edit:. I think I have actually answered to basically all the issues raised by User:Dana boomer during the last two weeks. Dana is aware of that. Could discuss with her before closing the nomination? Cheers PHG (talk) 10:28, 31 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Hello there! Following up on PHG's comment above, this was an ongoing edit process that was improving the article towards GA.  Really, it is considered rather rude to close another editor's GA reviews without checking with them first.  While it is quite allright to contribute to a GA review, it's not to close a GA review on which you are not the lead reviewer, unless the reviewer has apparently disappeared and nothing has been done on the article for a very long period of time, which is not the case here.  Dana boomer (talk) 13:22, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: Lisa
I honestly don't know what inspired me to write that, I had been watching my friends make fools of themselves on YouTube, and listened to Dane Cook too much, but I'm glas someone thught it was funny. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sasuke9031 (talk • contribs) 16:55, 31 August 2008 (UTC)