User talk:Erebus555/archive

Commerzbank tower
I saw you edited the article a little bit so could you help me ectract some infrmation about the tower from the German wikipedia articule. I used google to translat, and It is a bit hard to read. I provided a link in the refrance. Could you help me out by doing the same with the Messtrum and DZ bank, also in Frankfurt. Alaskan assassin (talk) 03:37, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Constant deletion of Washwoodheath technology college
EREBUS.EREBUS.EREUBUS. if i go 2 every article you write which is uncited then im sure you will find some clever ecuse as to why it is correct


 * Feel free. Many of my older articles have uncited material in them, but this hasn't been challenged by other editors. If it is, then I will tend to add the material again with citation to support it. If I cannot find the citation, than I accept the other editor's decision and leave it be. - Erebus555 19:34, 14 November 2007 (UTC)


 * OK, now I don't know what you are talking about. As an experienced editor, I do not go around deleting material willy nilly. Any removal of content is explained and justified. As far as I am aware, the information I deleted from the article you mention was uncited and by Wikipedia policy, any material that is uncited may be challenged and removed at any time. I intend on continuing to contribute and removing or merging material if Wikipedia policy allows me to. Please do not come along with sweeping statements next time when it is you who doesn't know what they are talking about. - Erebus555 19:18, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

revert on bham 8th June
rv it wasnt me!

honest!

UKbandit 15:29, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Don't worry! You misread the edit summary (which is automatic by the way), it said I reverted an edit back to what the page looked like when YOU edited it. It doesn't say I reverted your edit :-). - Erebus555 15:48, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


 * ah, doh! UKbandit 16:11, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

City of Birmingham Stadium
Hi. I've just read the City of Birmingham Stadium article, which you contributed a lot to - thanks. A lot of the references are to a digital brain page. Is it yours? I'd like to know where the stuff about the stadium came from. --Hugh Charles Parker (talk - contribs) 18:32, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


 * The digital brain link is not mine, sorry. I found the links to the images on a forum page about this development, and from my understanding, these were released as part of the development details - though I cannot find where from. May I ask why you were asking? - Erebus555 18:37, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Curiosity, and in search of more citeable references. --Hugh Charles Parker (talk - contribs) 19:06, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Second city Manchester/ Birmingham
Dear Mr Erebus,

Given that there is a current propaganda war from the grim mill town of Manchester to proclaim itself as the second city, even though it is ranked 8th by the office of National Statistics figures (2005) population estimates, I do not find it acceptable for the Birmingham page to provide credibility for these rediculous claims. I have therefore deleted and will continue to delete this reference to Manchester to provide balance to the Wikipedia article.

Unlike the Birmingham page, the Manchester page proclaims itself as the second city and carries no such reference to the fact that this is disputed by Birmingham. In the interests of fairness and balance I find this an unacceptable bias and will make amendments to rectify.

Kind regards

Prof Rob Right


 * If you read the Second city of the United Kingdom article, you will notice that the artticle explains that there is now several more factors used when it comes to deciding which city should be given the "second city" title. These include cultural, political and economical factors as well as the population figures you outlined.


 * For the Birmingham page to provide reference to Manchester shows it to balanced and not from one single point of view. The fact that this is cited too shows that it is a credible claim.


 * If you continue to delete this from the article, you will be starting an edit war between you and other editors. This means that you will eventually be blocked by an administrator for a time period decided upon by them. As well as that, you will find that other editor's efforts to give the article Featured Article status have been in vain as it is the subject of an edit war - as one of the criteria for featured article status states that it must not be subject to this.


 * Therefore, you should stop deleting such information from the Birmingham article and actually contribute to the Manchester article by adding that Birmingham is a rival to this. This would therefore balance out the two articles. - Erebus555 13:34, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Erebus555, if I understand your post at talk:Manchester correctly, you have removed a reference to Manchester from the Birmingham article because references in the opposite direction (for want of a better description) are removed - even though you think the article is improved by the cross-referencing. Forgive me, but it seems a bit odd to deliberately degrade the Birmingham article because of anything happening to the Manchester article. Regards, Mr Stephen 11:35, 2 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I did this seeing as the editor on the Manchester article removed the reference to Birmingham per discussions on talk page archives. This led me to believe that such information added to the Birmingham article, therefore, must not comply with the discussions which have taken place. It maybe best to come to an agreement to whether these references to Birmingham and Manchester on the articles should be included, as I can see it touches a nerve with some editors. - Erebus555 11:44, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Maps
Hello Erebus555,

I'd be happy to produce a localised map for the city. This issue seems to have risen elsewhere in stopping UK settlement articles recieving GA and FA.

What I require is some source material; a few problems include do we use a Birmingham map or a City of Birmingham map, and how do we divide the map (by ward, or other kind of division)? If we use a Birmingham map, then where does its "official" boundaries end? What should be included on the map?

From memory, User:Fingerpuppet may be helpful here. Once we've sorted these, it wouldn't take me long to put something together. Hope that helps, Jza84 18:57, 3 July 2007 (UTC)


 * That map is excellent - give me a week or so and I'll see what I can do. With regards to the Birmingham article text, some of the content needs to be ordered according to the UK settlements guidelines on sections, (Geog, then Hist, then Demographics, then Landmarks, and then Transport etc are later sections. Administration should be Politics or Political representation, and Famous residents should be titled Notable Brummies) and I believe the infobox should be contiguous to bring it inline with the rest of the UK. Just some pointers!


 * I've got quite a few maps to make, but I'll make this one a priority. Jza84 21:07, 3 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for spotting the vandalism warning on my talk page. I've raised my concerns at the admin noticeboard, as I feel this is becoming a little targetted against me and that article, despite attempts for a compromise and engagement.


 * I haven't forgotten about the Birmingham map (see I'm not a raging Manc! - well not even a Manc at all!), I've just had a few county maps to roll out first that I'd comitted too. Thanks again, Jza84 18:28, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use Image:G_Force.gif
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Re: Second city of the United Kingdom - Request for Rational Debate
As a recent, and possibly significant, contributor to the Second city of the United Kingdom article, I'd like to direct your attention to this edit on the Talk Page regarding a Request for Rational Debate on the subject of the article. All the best. Sprigot 15:13, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Map making software
Hello, and sorry for the delay in responding!

I'm still in the middle of a backlog for infobox county maps which I'm trying to roll out asap. I do still intend to aid in other projects like Birmingham however.

I use a package called Adobe Illustrator CS. It's an industry-standard graphics software package, which I think produces much higher quality vector images (< see the article if you're not as much of a graphics-nerd as I) than other image-making software.

I also complete my images in Adobe Photoshop CS before uploading them to Wikipedia. I have a degree in Visual Arts and I think it's needed to use Illustrator as it's a little tricky for new comers.

It's a real shame that this package is being downloaded illegally and anonymously through p2p networks like Shareaza.com and is avaliable to anyone with an internet connection. If you happened to buy a copy however, I'd be more than willing to share how I create maps in more detail.

Does that help? Jza84 00:22, 7 August 2007 (UTC)


 * That's very helpful, thanks. It seems then that it might not be for me, despite usually teaching myself as I go along with most software. So I think I'll just leave it all to you - you are the expert in this field after all, by the sounds of that degree! Happy editing! - Erebus555 09:50, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Armada Towers
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AfD nomination of Green Lakes, Dubai
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Emirate Park Towers prod
My apologies for not using the most recent version as I must have been viewing another version when adding the notice. Luke! 16:46, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Derbyshire
Hello! I've noticed you said that WP:Derbyshire would be a good idea. The project now has 5 (maybe 6?) supporters, and so I've created a temporary page within my User Space. Please expand it, and then we will move it over. I'm currently working on a logo, Userboxes, Talk Page Banners etc, and a few adminy pages, assessment, template, stub etc. It's at WP:Derbys if you want to expand it. Thanks,  Bluegoblin  7   17:14, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Pennine Waterways links
There is a discussion about the appropriateness or otherwise of some links that have been added to a number of pages, and subsequently removed. As you are a member of the project, you may wish to comment at

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Waterways —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mayalld (talk • contribs) 14:28, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

blocks of flats
Do blocks of flats have separate pages on the wiki? What sort of page should Samuel Vale House, Coventry be included in. What is the correct term? "block of flats", "tower block" or "apartment block". Snowman 17:16, 16 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Firstly, we refer to them as tower blocks if they are above 6 storeys in height. Below that, they can be called blocks of flats. Tower blocks have their own individual articles, as do large blocks of flats. The article you asked about would be called Samuel Vale House, although, if there was an article already by that name, then the article name should be Samuel Vale House, Coventry. A reference to it should be made on Samuel Vale House. The wiki really wants as much info as possible. The main info that users have is the number of floors, location (down to road name if possible), height in metres and date of construction. If you had all that information then the article would look like: "Samuel Vale House is a 17 storey tower block on X Road, Coventry. Completed in 19xx, it is xx metres tall." We also have categories as well just to keep it all organised. The style is very similar, or possibly equal to, that of Wikipedia. Hope that helps! - Erebus555 18:48, 16 September 2007 (UTC)


 * The categories in wikicommons refers to "apartment blocks", and as far as I could find "Category:Towers in the United Kingdom" also contains monuments. I can not get started with the categories on commons for residential tower blocks at the present time. I new category structure might need building, or have I missed something. Snowman 19:01, 16 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry, are we talking about wikicommons or that UK Housing Wiki that's linked to from my userpage? I'm getting confused or maybe it's the alcohol getting to me. - Erebus555 19:12, 16 September 2007 (UTC)


 * The wiki is the en wiki, and wikicommons is wikicommons where the image has been uploaded to. Snowman 20:44, 16 September 2007 (UTC)


 * OK, sorry, I got confused. I am not too sure in which category the image should be placed, to be honest. May I suggest asking User:DWaterson as he seems to have more experience and knowledge of Wikicommons. Sorry again. - Erebus555 17:33, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

WPGM New Monthly Newsletter
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WikiProject Derbyshire October Newsletter
Hi Erebus555! Here is this month's newsletter! To continue recieveing it, follow the link within and add your name!  Bluegoblin  7   19:38, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Church of St Barnabas, Erdington
Hi - I'd welcome any local knowledge you have about this church and Thomas Rickman, as I see you edited that article recently. According to the Birmingham Mail, the stained glass windows were designed and installed in the late 19th century by Thomas Rickman, and various sources state that the church was to have celebrated its 150th anniversary next year, giving it a date of construction of 1858. However this does not tie in with the dates in the article, 1776-1841. Can you shed any light on this anomaly please? Were there perhaps two architects with the same name? – Tivedshambo (talk) 17:17, 5 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Well firstly, I can't see how Thomas Rickman installed stained glass windows in the church during the late 19th century when he died in the early to mid 19th century. The information I have found is a bit sketchy but can be pieced together. The actual church appears to have been built to a design by Thomas Rickman (or possibly Rickman and Hutchinson, which was the name of his practice) in 1822-23. In 1858, a district chapelry was assigned to the church under the name "The District Chapelry of Erdington". I currently have two book sources stating that the church was built in 1823 and just the one for the district chapelry statement. I hope this clears things up! - Erebus555 17:30, 5 October 2007 (UTC)


 * EDIT: I have also found that the church was consecrated on July 23, 1824. - Erebus555 17:33, 5 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for clearing that up. A sad loss to Erdington - I could see it burning from the station yesterday morning. Hopefully they can rebuild something from it. – Tivedshambo (talk) 18:14, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Why now?
Why have I suddenly got a message from you, saying "welcome to Wikipedia" etc?

I've been contributing for many months now, why have I just got a welcome message from you?

Yours, puzzled,

WikiReaderer 15:43, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

OK then
Thanks. Thinking about it, I never did receive any welcome... :( That's OK WikiReaderer 15:57, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

WPGM Newsletter - November 2007
Rudget Contributions 17:09, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Derbyshire November Newsletter
 Bluegoblin  7   11:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Pinhay Bay
Hi, Way back in Dec 2005 you created stubs for Pinhay Bay & Pinhay Cliffs stating they are in Somerset. I was trying to do some clean up for WikiProject Somerset & was going to merge them (I put merge tags on a couple of months ago) but I can't find any record, map or whatever for Pinhay Bay or Pinhay in Somerset - the only ones I can find are in Devon - do you have any other sources which say there are sites of this name in Somerset - or could we edit the article to put them in Devon?&mdash; Rod talk 21:07, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Means of contacting W Mids editors?
I haven't done any wikipedia stuff for say, 3 years, and don't recall how any of it works, nor can I devote the time to re-learning. Do people have contact forms for sending/receiving messages? I want to pass along some information in the hope someone will add it to one of the Birmingham pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dglp (talk • contribs) 16:04, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, welcome back to Wikipedia, firstly! One way of contacting a Wikipedia editor is through the way you just contacted me - their talk page. However, if the message you want to give them includes personal information then it may actually be better to send them an email. The way to do this is go onto their userpage and on the left hand menu, click on 'Email this user'. Not every user has this option as some wish to keep their email address private. After clicking on this, you can enter the message subject and the message itself. These are the two ways of contacting an editor that I know of.


 * Of course, as Wikipedia is a collaborative effort, you can add information to an article yourself. If it is not of a written standard that Wikipedia likes, other users can simply edit this to comply with WP:MOS. Remember, any material added to an article should be cited with web or book references (see WP:CITE for more). Happy editing! - Erebus555 19:23, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Image:Ayn Rand1.jpg
Image:Ayn Rand1.jpg is up for deletion (no source). See. I don't think you'll be able to help, but just in case... --- RockMFR 07:36, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Extragratis
An article that you have been involved in editing, Extragratis, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/. Thank you. --Explodicle (talk) 21:10, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Willis Building
I know it was a long time ago, but I thought I'd drop you a line with a random fact - DYK that the same architects also designed The Gherkin building? Literally 1/5th of a mile from the willis building. Hencetalk (talk) 12:54, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Fosters and Partners are prolific architects are quite in demand so this fact doesn't surprise me! But I suppose you can have too much of one architect sometimes. Anyway, thanks for the fact! - Erebus555 (talk) 18:12, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Upolu Point
Good job on Upolu Point. &mdash;Viriditas | Talk 13:16, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Blake Basin
You created the article Blake Basin but the article contains no assertion of notability and may be eligible for speedy deletion under WP:CSD, Article criteria 7. I have tagged the article with notability, but will hold off on tagging it with a db tag for now.--CastAStone//(talk) 23:09, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Kingstanding
I have read WP, and see no reason why this content cannot be added. I'm sorry if you find it offensive in anyway, but the information is valid. It is available on the web, it is not libellous or malicious, it is in the interests of public information. Feel free to report as you wish. You should read the WP section on censorship. Also, the note stating that if you do not wish your articles to be altered, then do not write them. The possible reasons for people removing this section are extremely dubious. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovekimp (talk • contribs) 23:13, 30 December 2007 (UTC)


 * The content is non-notable. It is nothing to do with me finding it offensive, and neither do I claim to own the article. I didn't even write the article. That is all. - Erebus555 (talk) 15:38, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Pype Hayes
It looks like you live near to me in Pype Hayes. I’ve also had it up to here with officious Wikis and unjustified blocks]. Perhaps we could get together some time. That type of trouble has put me off lexicography. Barbara Shack (talk) 22:55, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

sado
u do this to have fun?????? why did u edit the panthers site when it is true that they rubbish and shouldnt be in the bbl —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.32.119.24 (talk) 19:19, 10 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Because it was opinionated and does not represent a neutral point of view. Also it was poorly written and unreferenced. If you wish to edit properly, then register an account and read the help pages into how to write an article or to edit articles to Wikipedia standards. Thanks for the encouraging comment. - Erebus555 (talk) 19:30, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

City Centre Core
You edited, Birmingham City Centre and commented that the City Centre Core is not the same as the old city centre. Please sort out the City Centre Core article.Barbara Shack (talk) 08:17, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

User:Oosoom
I’ve tried to edit User talk:Oosoom several times. Each time I get blocked and get accused of adding spam. There are no links in my comment. I’ve had no trouble with other Wikipedia edits. There’s been the same trouble with my computer at home and with an IT Centre computer on a totally different network. It looks like the problem is with Wikipedia computers. My comment wasn’t important but the blockage is. I fear anybody who tries to contact Oosoom from any computer network will get the same trouble. I mentioned the "Floozie" several times. Perhaps the computer mistook that for porn spammers. I was discussing the floozie in Victoria Square.Barbara Shack (talk) 15:15, 17 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Refer to the fountain by it's official name - "The River" - and see if that works. If it doesn't then I'll have a go myself. - Erebus555 (talk) 21:53, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Birmingham in the war.
“Man sagt, dass Großbritannien ohne die industrielle Kapazität von Birmingham den Krieg wohl verloren hätte.“ It is said that without the industrial capacity of Birmingham Britain would have lost the war. I found the German text in German Wikipedia, here Below the text is my translation. You reverted it before I had time to write the reference. I don’t know if the German text is accurate or not. Therefore I wrote “perhaps decisively” I added the German text accidentally. It was in the word document I used.I've added the reference to the discussion page. Barbara Shack(talk) 17:29, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Return Of The Dragon.jpg
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Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #13
♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:43, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:Erebus555-contrib
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Green Lane Masjid
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West Midlands (region)
I would be grateful if you would check the login tourism link at the bottom of the "West Midlands (region)" page. I deleted, because I thought it was spam, but now someone has put this link back again. Opinion needed. There may be other instances of this link on other pages. Snowman (talk) 19:06, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:User webcam
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Salford
Hello there! Just thought I ought to let you know about the new List of tallest buildings and structures in Salford article. I believe (from memory) you have an interest in this field and might want to take a look/ammend accordingly. Hope that helps, -- Jza84 · (talk) 13:55, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Coventry
WikiProject_Coventry was started today with a basic project page. How can it be incorporated on the West Midlands wikiproject page? Are you going to propose a project for Birmingham? Snowman (talk) 21:06, 26 February 2008 (UTC)


 * On the West Midlands WikiProject page, it may be an idea to create a subsection called "Sub-Projects" or something along those lines. Beneath it, you can link to the Coventry WikiProject and give a couple of sentences on the scope and goals of the project.


 * I am actually glad that you have proposed the Coventry WikiProject and managed to get it through to creation as I had initially suggested creating one for Birmingham. However, after discussions with other editors, the decision was taken to propose and eventually create the West Midlands WikiProject. So, hopefully, the creation of the Coventry WikiProject will give enough justification for the creation of a Birmingham WikiProject. However, at the moment I am quite busy and don't have the time at the moment to create a Birmingham WikiProject. - Erebus555 (talk) 21:15, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Your encouragement is appreciated. You could mention a possible Birmingham project in the "Sub-project" section on the WMP page. Snowman (talk) 22:03, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #14
♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 05:04, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #15
♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 02:44, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Ofsted
Hi - as requested, I've created Ofsted, so 51359 will now give you:
 * . Warofdreams talk 01:29, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot, it is very much appreciated! It will be very useful on something I am working on! - Erebus555 (talk) 15:30, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #16
♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 03:59, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for being part of the Tropical cyclones WikiProject
Good luck elsewhere within wikipedia and life. Thegreatdr (talk) 13:37, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Accessdates
There is no need to replace assessdates as you did on "Woodway Park School and Community College‎". Accessdaymonth and accessyear are used on some FA's and sometimes it is written in scratch format; it is clearer which is the day and which is the month. I understand that the wiki MOS specifies that no particular ref style is preferable as long there is consistency. Snowman (talk) 16:11, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Big Brum
Today I attended a meeting in meat space, (Offline). The speaker said that Big Brum was originally a fire tower. I added that to the article with “Citation needed”. Please check.

I haven’t abandoned Wikipedia. There were threats to stalk me online. |’ve decided to phase out use of my real name. I started a second Wikipedia account with a different username. I’m not trying to hide this from the admins. Checkuser will find my second account easily.Barbara Shack (talk) 18:48, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Big Brum was never a fire tower and wasn't designed to be one either. The original plans for Big Brum by Thomason clearly show that it was intended to be a clocktower. It may be possible that the speaker was actually referring to the clock tower at Sutton Coldfield Town Hall as this was a fire tower before becoming a clock tower.


 * It's good to see you're still around! There have been many Birmingham editors who appearing, do a raft of edits and then disappear again and I was starting to think that you were one of them! - Erebus555 (talk) 19:04, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm Proxima Centauri 2Barbara Shack (talk) 08:20, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Birmingham City Centre
Why doesn't Google give prominence to the article on Birmingham City Centre that you helped to develop? I think that article is better than many commercial websites that are on the front page of Google. It could be worth taking that up. Proxima Centauri 2 (talk) 19:25, 22 May 2008 (UTC

Can Google be persuaded not to put commercial interests first? Proxima Centauri 2 (talk) 18:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC) )


 * Google doesn't have any control on what comes up on a search, unless it is a dangerous site and they are asked to remove it. Wikipedia's evergrowing popularity could mean that some people, who are searching for information on Birmingham City Centre, will refer to Wikipedia first before searching on Google. Plus, when they search Google for Birmingham City Centre, the article for Birmingham is still within the top 10 returned results. - Erebus555 (talk) 11:50, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

GAR debate on buildings under construction
You are an editor of Chicago Spire with at least 10 edits on the article. There is currently a debate regarding the propriety of whether buildings under construction should be eligible to be GAs at Good article reassessment/Trump International Hotel and Tower (Chicago)/1.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:25, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Co-ordinates
Do you understand the co-ordinate display system - I see our enthusiastic geo-locator is on an enforced vacation. If you look at Dorridge there are two overlayed co-ordinates, and I am not sure how it has managed that. Thought you might have seen this before or could point me in the right direction. Dogbiscuit (talk) 00:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't worry, when you see something like this on an article, it means that there are two sets of coordinates somewhere in the article. As there is an infobox, that means one set of coordinates are in that. Those should remain as they actually help put the little marker on the map. The other set of coordinates are usually found at the top of the article (which in this case they are not) or at the bottom of the article in the External links section (which they are here). They are usually in a template beginning with 'coor'. Just remove this from the article in the edit box and it will be sorted whilst having no detrimental effects to the quality of the article. I will remove the coordinates from the Dorridge article just so you can see what to do! Hope that helps. If not, feel free to ask again! - Erebus555 (talk) 19:59, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Consider me taught to fish! Dogbiscuit (talk) 11:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Trump Chicago now at FAC
Since you expressed an opinion recently at Good article reassessment/Trump International Hotel and Tower (Chicago)/1, I thought you might want to contribute to the discussion at Featured article candidates/Trump International Hotel and Tower (Chicago).--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 20:27, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Erdington
Hi - I've just created a category for Erdington - see Category:Erdington. I've put in a few obvious articles, but any other suggestions you have would be welcome. Do you think articles like Gravelly Hill Interchange should be included, or would you consider that outside the area? I like the article on Lad in the Lane by the way! —  Tivedshambo  (t/c) 19:41, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the comments on the Lad in the Lane article! I felt it was necessary to get rid of some red links in the Architecture of Birmingham article. As for the category, I think it is a good idea. I think the category should cover the scope of the Parliamentary constituency/ Council constituency to avoid confusion over the boundaries. This would mean including Stockland Green and Kingstanding and would also make the inclusion of Gravelly Hill Interchange possible. Also, I think an article for the Highcroft Hospital is due. There is a lot of information out there and the sub-section is only going to get bigger! Might be worth creating an article for Erdington Hall too - although, I don't know how much information is available on the net about it. - Erebus555 (talk) 19:59, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Wolverhampton
Thanks for taking a look at this article and fixing citations etc. I'm slowly going through it sorting it all out (and adding detail where appropriate), so your recent work on that is really helpful! It's getting closer to being a decent article, but there's so much of it that's unreferenced that it's quite a big job. Fingerpuppet (talk) 09:46, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I noticed that a lot of work had been done to it since I last looked at it! It is looking good so far! Soon, the article will need subarticles - especially for transport and history. - Erebus555 (talk) 13:00, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

New Articles
Hi - just to let you know I've made a start on a couple of articles that are in your "Articles I Want" list - Island House (Birmingham) and Bassetts Pole. Also, I've been coming across a load of your stuff in Google Earth recently (well, for the last few years!) - keep up the good work! Booglamay (talk) 14:00, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, I was looking at your talk page. "Handsworth station", was opened 14/10/1854 as Handsworth and Smethwick railway station. It was renamed Handsworth station by BRB; and it closed on 6 March 1972. The station listed as "Handsworth station" on the WikiProject West Midlands/Article requests, appears to be Handsworth Wood railway station. Possibly it is Handsworth Wood station that you are wanting, not Handsworth?Pyrotec (talk) 19:02, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Aah yes, I think it would be Handsworth Wood station. When I wrote that, I wasn't as familiar with Birmingham's defunct stations as I am now! There are a few things I could do with fixing, thinking about it now! Thanks for bringing that up! - Erebus555 (talk) 19:07, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome....
...and for updating my schools page :) --Stuartjmanton (talk) 18:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Help me out on The Sway DaSafo Article
Hey Erebus,

Just thought you would be useful helping me out with The Sway DaSafo article. Please could you add a section called collaborations, detailing Sway's past collaborations with other artists. Also it would be helpful for you to add a "This is My Demo" section, which would hold info about the album. P.S: I'm sorry this notice has been a bit out of the blue, but as you occasionally edit Sway's Wiki & have some knowledge I thought this could be a good task to help me on.

Thanks Dirtyharry1994 (talk) 08:13, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I think the collaborations section should go in the discography article, as most collaborations produce a single at least. Also, I don't think there is any need for a This Is My Demo section considering there is already an article on it! The problem with expanding the article is that there are very few references out there on the internet at the moment. So, whatever is put on the article usually ends up with a Cite tag. As it stands, I think the article is fine at the moment. Until the release of the Signature LP, I don't think it can be expanded much further as there will be a lot of hype when the album is released. The discography article is in need of expansion though. A section on singles released by Sway needs to be included and may be a section on tracks that he has produced - if there are any. - Erebus555 (talk) 15:45, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Ariel Motorcycles
As part of the Motorcycling WikProject I am working though all the missing articles and stubs for British Bikes and sorting out all the manufacturers with an infobox etc. I've just replaced your redirect of Ariel Motorcycles and linked it as main to the section in Ariel (vehicle) - when you have a moment please will you have a look at how the two can fit together more comfortably? I considered removing the list of models but I suppose it doesn't matter, as I found what must be the definitive list on the Australian web site. Cheers Tony (talk) 16:53, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I've gone through the article and fixed some bits and bobs to do with the structure and style. I've incorporated the link into the lead of the article, although I am still convinced it could be better placed. It might be best to refer to the editors at the Motorcycling WikiProject who will undoubtedly have more experience than me with articles in this particular field! Happy editing. - Erebus555 (talk) 17:23, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * It seems User:Pigsonthewing has done a bit more work to the lead and the link seems to be incorporated better now! - Erebus555 (talk) 17:26, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

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Promotional material or not?
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Tony Hatch article - split into three big sections
Hi, I've split the Tony Hatch article into sections, as you suggested on the discussion board, though not as many as would have been necessary from a "visual" point of view. I did not want to re-write the article in any way (since I know virtually nothing about the subject), so I had to make do with the opportunities for splitting which the current article offered. It is some form of progress, at least. I had hoped that you might find the time to replace my crappy section titles, for I failed to come up with useful ones.

Regards,

Otto von B (talk) 02:59, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Worcester and Birmingham Canal
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WikiProject Greater Manchester June Newsletter, Issue XVI
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Sydenham
Have you got anything on Sydenham, a mainly residential area of Leamington Spa, which may have been wrongly placed at Sydenham, Warwickshire, rather than being at Sydenham, Leamington. It was recently merged with Leamington, but I am considering re-establishing the article again. see merge discussion at Talk:Sydenham, Warwickshire. Snowman (talk) 10:58, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Greater Manchester July Newsletter, Issue XVII
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Hey
Hey, just a quick hello from a fellow Skyscraper forumer. Been updating some more of the Birmingham University page with some additions to your own comments.

Cheers, Simon (feltip) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spfelton (talk • contribs) 01:09, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Commons account hacked?
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 * Hey, I have not used my Commons account for quite a while. I have no idea what happened there; those were certainly not my edits. I'm very confused and concerned as to how the person got my password so I have changed it.


 * Thanks for pointing out what had happened though, I'll keep a closer eye on it over the next few weeks. Thank you. - Erebus555 (talk) 17:05, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Best would be to immediately try to change your password on Commons. If you can't log-in with your old one, you'll know for sure it has been compromised. --Túrelio (talk) 17:20, 3 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I have changed my password for my Commons account now, and for this account as both passwords were the same. It seems all the malicious edits were just to that particular image and nothing else has been done. - Erebus555 (talk) 19:09, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The "problem" image (versions) have been deleted. However, in case you want to have totally removed the edits themselves from your user edit history, you would have to ask one of our oversighters. --Túrelio (talk) 21:43, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

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"Birmingham" or "West Midlands"?
Hello Erebus555 I wondered what your thoughts were on the naming of various articles for districts of Birmingham that use a distinguisher to differentiate them from other places of the same name elsewhere? I only ask because I recently noticed that Nickyl had created a new article about California in Birmingham, but that he had done so under California, West Midlands. Whilst I’m far from being anywhere near an expert when it comes to Wikipedia’s name conventions, I was under the impression that the distinguisher should be the principal area, which in this case would be Birmingham. Consequently I moved the page to California, Birmingham, so that it would then be consistent with neighbouring district articles such as Quinton, Birmingham and Northfield, Birmingham (I have also similarly moved Woodgate, West Midlands to Woodgate, Birmingham for the same reasons). Looking at Category:Areas of Birmingham, West Midlands I see that there are 20 district articles that use “Birmingham” as a distinguisher, and 8 that use “West Midlands”. I therefore wonder if, for the sake of consistency, it might not be best to move the 8 articles that have “West Midlands” so that they have “Birmingham” instead? Knowing you are an active member with an interest in all things Brummagem, I would be grateful to hear you thoughts on this? Many thanks, best regards (Lepidus Magnus (talk) 12:51, 17 September 2010 (UTC)) P.S. Here are the 8 current “West Midlands” article:


 * Bordesley, West Midlands
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 * Handsworth, West Midlands
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 * West Heath, West Midlands
 * Witton, West Midlands

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