User talk:Eric Corbett/Archives/2017/December

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No longer needed in the reflist template as it now autosizes. Best Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 21:30, 1 December 2017 (UTC)


 * But it doesn't autosize soon enough. Eric   Corbett  01:43, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

File:Stimson Trek.png
Isn't this non-free image replaceable? Ok, there's not many of these out there in the world (this advert from September shows ~10 left), but they're out there. If none still existed, I could see it. But, if they're still out there? --Hammersoft (talk) 16:44, 6 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Find one and take a picture then. Eric   Corbett  17:37, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * If I had access to one, I would. WP:NFCC #1 doesn't permit us to use a non-free image until one is found. It asks whether it could be created. It can. So, I think the image fails. --Hammersoft (talk) 17:40, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, I think you're mistaken, and frankly I find all of this hand-wringing about the copright status of images to be more than a little boring. And anyway, where's the evidence that there are 10 survivors? That advert you link to doesn't even get the production date correct. Eric   Corbett  17:45, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Eric, please, I'm not trying to be hostile here. If I were, I would have just immediately tagged the image for deletion right off and given you the copy/paste notice it was up for deletion. I was trying to be polite by coming here and discussing it with you. The reality here is the image should be deleted. Copies of the car still exist, which is proven by the advertisement from September (and it's not the only ad out there), just two months ago. There's plenty of other photos out there of this vehicle, and as long as they exist Wikipedia isn't going to accept a non-free image of the vehicle. I was hoping to give you the opportunity to have it deleted yourself, as you're an experienced editor and once I noted their existence it shouldn't have been an issue. --Hammersoft (talk) 18:03, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * The reality here is that you're talking out of your arse, and I wish you'd go and do it elsewhere. Eric   Corbett  18:19, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Hammersoft brought to to WT:NFC, and I have to agree with him, he's right that this is very much likely replaceable with a free image, since I can search google and see people within the last few years talking about seeing one of these vehicles. NFCC#1 does not require a free image to be available, but that there is the potential for a free image, even if there is some burden on trying to get that free image. The burden is up to you, the user of non-free, to justify that it is impossible to get such a picture. --M ASEM  (t) 19:03, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, delete the fucking image then, along with the article it appears in. Eric   Corbett  19:12, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

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(Sorry! This message was intended for another user. I've made plenty of mistakes before, but not this one! —Anomalocaris (talk) 20:49, 6 December 2017 (UTC))

Respectfully, Anomalocaris (talk) 19:19, 6 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Is it "Try and Wind Up Eric" day? Eric   Corbett  19:22, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * More like "Extremely Bad Luck Day", so it seems to me. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:06, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Since there are currently over 9 million instances of this "error" on English Wikipedia alone and the internet is not about to stop recognizing the "font" attribute any time soon, I wouldn't lose any sleep, although since it won't cost anything to fix it won't do any harm to change your signature. You're not being singled out - Anomalocaris is spamming this particular message on pretty much every talkpage you look at (although in most cases they at least make the effort to suggest a revised formatting so all you need to do is cut and paste it into your preferences). &#8209; Iridescent 20:31, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * But I don't see the HTML that Masem is complaining about in my signature. Eric   Corbett  20:45, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * No, no more do I. Anomalocaris, would you mind explaining what's going on here? Accusing people of disruption without evidence is disruptive editing in its own right (Misrepresentation of other people, if you want chapter-and-verse); is this a one-off blip or are there other instances of you dishing out warnings to people for something they haven't done? &#8209; Iridescent 20:53, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Do we actually have policy that labels the use of even the most garish signatures as "disruptive"? I find it hard that someone would spend significant amounts of their free time thinking about something so trivial.  ceran  thor 20:59, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * How bored can someone be with the project when they take to character counting someone's signature, and then arguing about it, whilst there are millions of articles in need of improvement.  Cassianto Talk  21:10, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * FWIW, when printing out Eric's signature it does not show any obsolete HTML error. Also, it's apparently some cleanup project for a future MediaWiki change if my understanding is right. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:02, 6 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Eric Corbett: Sorry. The intended recipient of the post had recently posted to your talk page, and I carelessly skipped the step of switching to that user's talk page before posting my message. I have made plenty of mistakes, but this is the first time for this one.
 * Jo-Jo Eumerus: I'll try not to bring any more bad luck.
 * Iridescent: For explanation, see message to Eric Corbett. I didn't accuse anyone of disruption. As far as I know, it is a one-off blip.
 * Ceranthor: I never called anybody's signature garish or disruptive.
 * Cassianto: I've used software tools to count characters since 1983. Computers are good at that. I didn't argue with Tony1; we worked together, along with  SMcCandlish, to solve a problem. People can accomplish a lot when they cooperate. To quote from the inaugural address of John F. Kennedy, "United, there is little we cannot do in a host of cooperative ventures. Divided, there is little we can do...."
 * Jo-Jo Eumerus: You are correct; Eric Corbett's signature is lint-free; my original posting was intended for another user. You are also correct that this is part of a cleanup project.

Sorry for the disruption. Peace! —Anomalocaris (talk) 21:35, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Fair enough - everyone makes mistakes &#8209; Iridescent 21:59, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, while fixing up obsolete HTML is low-priority, it's not pointless. We'll want the future HTML5 Wikipedia to validate as HTML5 and for third-party tools to work with its contents without problems. Getting rid of HTML3 and HTML4 stuff that's been obsolete since the 1990s is part of the maintenance process to get us there, even if it's tedious and not something that the less geeky care about.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ &gt;ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ&lt;  23:56, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

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Books and Bytes - Issue 25
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Issue 25, October – November 2017

 Arabic, Korean and French versions of Books & Bytes are now available in meta! Read the full newsletter Sent by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:57, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
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Happy Saturnalia!

 * Thanks Ealdgyth, and the same to you and yours. Eric   Corbett  23:55, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
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