User talk:Ericacenci

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March 2010
Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not paste copyrighted text from websites into Wikipedia articles as you did from The Hawker Beechcraft website to Hawker Beechcraft. Cutting and pasting copyrighted material is an offence under US copyright laws and is not permitted on Wikipedia. Your text has been removed. - Ahunt (talk) 22:59, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Re: Questions on your feedback
Thanks for your note. From your questions it really sounds like you work for the company. If this is the case I would suggest that you read WP:COI as you are in a conflict of interest in editing the article. As suggested there your best course of action is to make suggestions for changes on the Talk:Hawker Beechcraft page and then the other editors who are watching the page (including me) will assess, discuss and incorporate those changes.

As suggested, and as many reps from other companies have done, the best course of action for editors in a conflict of interest is to clearly declare your conflict of interest and work with other editors through the article talk pages to improve the article. A really good example of this is the editor: User:Albert Metcalfe who has declared that he works for Nav Canada and has contributed very effectively to that article.

To specifically address your questions:

1. Yes a new logo can be uploaded to replace the existing one which came from the website. The easiest way is to upload a new logo as a new version of File:HawkerBeechcraftLogo.png. Keep in mind it has to be low resolution to comply with US Copyright "fair use" requirements. If the new logo is available on line it may be just easier to let me know where it can be found and I can take care of uploading it.

2. The information about Hawker Beechcraft, which was founded in 2006, is about the present company, not about the original company Beechcraft, founded in 1932, which is included in the Beechcraft article.

3. The Beechcraft history earlier than 2006 goes in the Beechcraft article - Because Raytheon sold Raytheon Aircraft to Hawker Beechcraft in 2006/07 this is considered a new company.

4. The company website is an acceptable ref under WP:RS for most non-controversial details, although it is always helpful to have independenat third party refs as well (and not just media reprints of press releases).

5. The number of employees can be updated if you have a ref to cite showing a more current number. Everything runs on verifiability! Again if you add a note to Talk:Hawker Beechcraft indicating the new number and citing a ref that would be the best way to proceed.

I think the most important thing to keep in mind is that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and intended to be neutral and unbiased, which is why we have rules governing things like company PR department input into articles. The aim is not to produce something that the company approves of and meets company PR goals - that is the job of the company website.

Please let me know if you have any questions. - Ahunt (talk) 19:22, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Full Disclosure
I work for Bailey Lauerman, a marketing communications agency. Currently Hawker Beechcraft (HBC) is a client of ours.

The edits I intend to the make will be to improve the quality of the articles on Wikipedia and to accurately reflect the historical background and progression of HBC not to enhance its image.

To do this, I will correct factual errors and replace out-dated data with current information citing third party neutral sources.


 * Thanks for the info here - it would really be best if you post the info to the talk pages first to get consensus to include it. - Ahunt (talk) 01:13, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

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