User talk:Ericorbit/Archive18

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Crocodileman/Number one hits on the Canadian Top 100 of 2007-2008
Should the fake charts be removed from this user's main article as well, since they could potentially be misleading? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Many otters • One hammer • HELP) 21:12, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Martyn Phillipps (Erasure producer) vs. Martin Phillips of The Chills
Hello. I'd like to make sure this is the same person, but have strong doubts. You have edited Erasure articles a lot. For example, in the Chorus article you wrote: "Produced by Martyn Phillipps (of The Chills)..." But the Chills' Phillips' name is Martin, with an 'i' and to me he doesn't seem a likely person to produce Erasure records. Can you please clarify somehow? Garik 11 (talk) 20:43, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Billboard 100
Re: Dottie West (W) Artist info indicates West did indeed have two number 1 hits on Billboard 100 in '79 and 80's.  Edit revoked and reinstated.

Henry_kane (talk)
 * That information is incorrect, she does not have any Hot 100 number-ones. - eo (talk) 09:59, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't know where you get your information, but I have a copy of Billboard's April 26 1980 issue in front of me. The Country Hot 100 has "Lesson in Leavin'" at number 1, followed by "Are You Happy Baby" in 1981. I also know this to be a fact because I working as DJ at the "Mighty" KLIF AM 570 in Dallas, TX at the time... Edit reinstated.

Henry_kane (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:32, 14 May 2009 (UTC).
 * Uh, no. The number one song on April 26, 1980 was "Call Me" by Blondie.  You're looking at the country chart.  As someone who worked in radio, you're unfamiliar with the difference? - eo (talk) 17:57, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok, point taken. My fault. I was looking at the Billboard Top 100 under the country section. No need to get pissy about it. Sheesh. Henry_kane (talk)
 * "I don't know where you get your information" isn't condescending enough? Whatever, dude. - eo (talk) 23:25, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Disputed non-free use rationale for File:Lennox SweetDreams video.jpg
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Poker Face (Lady Gaga song)
Hey Eric, this user is continuously removing valid sourced content from the "Poker Face" article and replacing with bad sources like this. Please can you help me out? Warnings don't help. --Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 11:29, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism of The Fame (album)
Hi Eric. Please help. This user and its sockpuppet are continuously vandalising The Fame (album) and Paparazzi (Lady Gaga song) pages by adding unsourced content, fancruft and reverting when reverted. A block is needed and the protection on these pages need to be extended. --Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 04:00, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Looking at his contributions and the attack on talk pages, I don't think that only deleting the page will be of any use. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 09:54, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Could you come to the article "Paparazzi (Lady Gaga song)". Uber Gaga fan is continuously adding unsourced fancruft to the article and refuses to listen to warnings. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 16:34, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

ANI discussion of Mariah Carey/JuStar/Petergriffin9901
Your comment is welcome at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI#The_Mariah_Carey_mess .&mdash;Kww(talk) 16:42, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

T.I. discography
We have an emergency situation on our hands, 84.109.254.154 has repeatedly vandalized the T.I. discography article by altering the chart positions and certifications. Are you able to undo his bad edits? Look at these |1, |2, |3, |4. This guy won't stop after his edits are undid, he needs to be blocked indefinetly. Hometown Kid (talk) 12:48, 29 May 2009 (ET)

Another Headstrong neiva sock puppet
Hi there. Just thought you might want to know that it seems like another Headstrong neiva sock puppet, called, is all over Raven-Symoné articles and other pages as well, adding unverifiable information to them. Funk Junkie (talk) 18:10, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * And another one: Sigh. Funk Junkie (talk) 01:24, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Only Love Can Break Your Heart
I've made a new article for that single, since it is notable enough to have its own article. The article as we have it now is, well, a bit ridiculous, since 80% of it is taken up by templates and track listings that have nothing to do with the song, only with the single as it was done by Saint Etienne. Your reversal continues a bad article which gives undue weight, and sure, I'll take it up on the talk page, but I'm sticking to this point. BTW, you could also have considered taking this topic up on the talk page before reversing a couple of perfectly good edits in agreement with WP policy. Drmies (talk) 19:24, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I meant to leave you this earlier, but you already found your way ;)

User:Smanu
Just a heads up on this user. Again started vandalising the The Fame Ball Tour page by deleting tour dates and others. There has been a consensus before regarding this in the talk page. The user has a habit of starting these edit wars and trolling. Since you are an admin thought of notifying you. --Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 04:24, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Also Im kinda getting tired of the users personal attacks and trolling behind me. Check this and this. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 09:24, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Eric, if you are online please come to the Lady Gaga discography page. This user has again started edit warring. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 11:22, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Even the user Moon-sunrise has break the 3RR rule, if you block me, you shuld block him too --♫Smanu! 11:54, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It is considered bad form to remove messages and warnings from your Talk Page without archiving them. Please note that all of your warnings still stand, as they are viewable by anyone on your Talk Page's history. - eo (talk) 12:35, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks Eric for your assistance. Although seeing the amount of edit warring which goes on I wish the page to be fully protected. Do you think that I'm a bad editor too? --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 12:47, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Not a problem. No I don't think you're a bad editor at all!  I just want the Gaga page to calm down... seems that everyone involved needs to give-and-take a little bit. - eo (talk) 12:59, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I know. sigh! But what can you really do when after repeated explanations and warnings the user is continuing the same thing. Deleting things at his/her whim and refusal of discussion. This is not only me. Even User:Kww faced teh same problem. Check his talk page. I have a feeling this won't be over. Seeing that the user is deletign all warnings and block templates, I think the user will continue this after 14 hrs. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 13:09, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Other language
OK, but I don't know where I did it. --Ogggy (talk) 14:43, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi! Page User:Ognjen V. is my sock puppet, but I don't know how to erase it. I don't wanna to have this page anymore. --89.216.69.125 (talk) 07:44, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * D Doesn't matter --Ogggy (talk) 18:46, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Billboard 200
It was a misunderstanding, i thought it meant weeks at number 1 for singles...sorry for the inconvenience...:)--Maester Seymour (talk) 15:39, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Sure
No problem, I will be more careful and loom into it..:) thanks--Maester Seymour (talk) 20:44, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Can you tell me though why you removed that piece i contributed?--Maester Seymour (talk) 20:56, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

ohh,thanks for the link..:)--Maester Seymour (talk) 19:46, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Beyonce's discography
Excuse user, can you nominate this page for full protection. This page should be fully protected because this is a everything edit habit with fans. The same information is being "put in" and "erased" almost every five minutes. This page has been edited everyday more than 20x a day since it was created. Lovejonesfly (talk) 16:04, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

ELTON JOHN 7 No1 Albums
Hi ,I editied the Billboard 200 page a few weeks ago adding Elton John,s name to the list of Billboard artists in the most no1 album lists  because Elton John has had 7 No1 albums,someone removed his name which is wrong. The list is Honky Chateau 1972, Don,t shoot Me I,m Only The Piano Player, Goodbye Yellow Brick Road both 1973, Caribou, Greatest Hits 1974, Captain Fantastic and the Brown dirt Cowboy and Rock Of the Westies 1975.In your Elton John page on Wikipedia it states their he has 7 straight No1 albums any Joel Whitburn Billboard album will also show Elton has 7 no1 albums,so why did you or some body else,from the music department  remove something from the page that was true and correct in every way??? Now I see someone as Add Led Zepplin to the page ,you haven,t taken that off because it,s right, so why did you not check out what I put on there about Elton before you took it off.I also added Elton,s name to the list of Artist who have had 2 No1 Albums in a year.IN 1973 1974 and again in 1975 Elton had 2 no1 albums per year yet again you or someone like deleted elton,s name from the list.I,m new to this so I may have not done it right if you or any others out there would like to see that I,m right,I would be gratful for a reply But please check it out first,if this is what wikipedia is all about getting the facts right, I could be a big help to you guys, I,ve been a chart follower since 1977 when I brought My fist copy of The British Hit Singles and since moved on to Joel Whitburn Billboard Books as well, I have Canada, Australia and New Zealand Full and complete charts.Look forward to your reply  rob  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Regghead (talk • contribs) 07:28, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Exposé
WP:MUSTARD doesn't say specifically not to use "group" over "band", and there's no standardization that I can find that defines how the specific disambiguation should be used. The name of the background to use on the Navbox template though says "group or band", so there is recognition within Wikipedia that there is a difference. --Wolfer68 (talk) 16:14, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Headstrong neiva
The Ashley Tisdale page definitely doesn't have enough content to be considered notable and could well be merged into a larger article. As for Raven-Symoné's, though it is sourced and stuff, I still think its notability is questionable. Funk Junkie (talk) 20:02, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, no problem. One more thing: two days ago added a bunch of invalid charts to That's What Little Girls Are Made Of, which was ultimately reverted. Yesterday Yamh91, logged out and appearing as, made the same edit to the page, which was once again reverted. Doesn't it qualify as sock puppetry? Funk Junkie (talk) 19:03, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Tour articles
Ashley Tisdale concert tours is still speediable, and I would: created by a banned user, no significant updates by other users. Raven-Symoné concert tours doesn't qualify, and I doubt that an AFD would decide delete, either: sourced, lots of words (albeit none of them meaningful).&mdash;Kww(talk) 22:32, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

your undo
we are an exception, ours is a chart archive based forum, no different from a blog/news source. i have asked for permission from wiki and we are allowed. stop editing out our source, theyre 100% accurate! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.47.142 (talk) 11:01, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Headstrong Neiva/Yamh91
Separate editors, completely different styles. Disney Channel is big in Brazil, and we have a large group of Brazilian children editing the Tisdale/Raven/Hudgens/High School Musical/Lovato articles. The admins with the most experience in the area are Gimmetrow and NrDg, and they may be helpful in determining an effective strategy (and giving a second opinion about the relationship of Yamh91 and Headstrong Neiva).&mdash;Kww(talk) 22:10, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * They are even more different than I thought, because 189 is a multi-country range: Yamh91 is Mexican, Headstrong Neiva is Brazilian.&mdash;Kww(talk) 02:40, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

New sock puppetry case
Hi. I've just discovered two new sock puppets: and  (their names pretty much give it all away, heh), who keep adding some Darija Medena guy to a few articles. I've already prompted myself to revert all their edits. Funk Junkie (talk) 17:52, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Time to pull the plug on Yamh91
Combine his recent contributions with his complete failure to respond at User_talk:Yamh91, and I would argue for a one-week block, minimum. If I had the bit, it would be indef. I know it looks like I'm responding to a talk-page conversation on his talk page, but I'm only replying to edit-summaries as he edit-wars.&mdash;Kww(talk) 05:07, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/189.248.23.156 &mdash;Kww(talk) 01:24, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Madonna
Look the edits of other users http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna_albums_discography They post the sales without a source and i remove because they haven't got a source. Simone Jackson (talk) 23:51, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Look this source: http://www.hollywood.com/celebrity/Madonna_Ciccone/1114542#fullBio According to it Madonna (album) sold 8 million copies, not 12 million, or True Blue, according to RIAA, it's certified 7x Multi-Platinum, not 8x. A lot of albums are in error in that section. You don't respet the sources. The material with [citation needed] is without source. Citation needed is not a source. Simone Jackson (talk) 23:59, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes but we don't know if "I'm Breatheless" sold 6 million copies (for example). It's not secure the tag of [citation needed]. Simone Jackson (talk) 00:13, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Petergriffin9901
You should probably be aware of Petergriffin9901's return to editing. He's on a pretty tight leash. If you catch him violating parole, let me know.&mdash;Kww(talk) 15:44, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Britney's discography
I already opened the discussion in the talk page. Thanks. Kraft. (talk) 11:09, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Lady Gaga
PLease stop this user User talk:Ashish vats from adding non-notable awards to the Lady Gaga page. --Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 04:50, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Solange Knowles discography
Could you watch after this page. This user is constantly destroying it. Lovejonesfly (talk) 16:44, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Getting ignored at Sockpuppet investigations/Wiki-11233
Could you take a look and see if you agree?&mdash;Kww(talk) 22:06, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

American Pie
Could you please show me the policy or guideline that says a hit cover version of a song does not ever get a separate article? The information being added to the original version is quickly overwhelming the original song, which has a far greater cultural meaning that the cover Madonna did of the song for a film and completely is distracting from the original version and ends up giving undue weight to that version. At some point, it is just not appropriate, the article isn't about her version of the song. The content of the Madonna cover involves far too much detail for a song cover when the content for the original song is not presented in that way. Wildhartlivie (talk) 22:31, 29 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I realize no one here has solicited my opinion, but American Pie is currently under 28kb, including pro forma stuff like chart listings and infoboxes. This is not excessive in length. The Madonna version, which McLean seems to like (and certainly made him a bit of money) is not given undue weight in my opinion, and since the release is now over 9 years old, the dedicated section is neither "quickly overwhelming the original song", nor is it likely to grow much further. I have always been against forking this cover version. / edg ☺ ☭ 12:16, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

I could also use a policy or guideline for this one, if you are aware of any. A merge discussion is occurring for a Red Hot Chili Peppers cover which is being cited in the forking more cover stub articles. / edg ☺ ☭ 12:16, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Billboard Hot 100 chart achievements and milestones
I have nominated Billboard Hot 100 chart achievements and milestones, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Billboard Hot 100 chart achievements and milestones. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 02:43, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Reverts
I notice you do a lot of reverting of other people's edits. Do you just revert other people's edits by habit? Even sourced information that you end up adding back in? If you are going to revert other people's edits, please at least provide an explanation of why you are reverting the edit. --JHP (talk) 03:18, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

List of Best-Charting U.S. Artists up for deletion discussion
Eric, Can you vote and support my page in the List of best-charting U.S. music artists ? I supported your page of Hot 100 achievements, as I feel it is valid and useful information. I would like you if possible to support my page. We chart statistics people need to band together. I don't know how to communicate with you directly other than via this method.

Articles_for_deletion/List_of_best-charting_U.S._music_artists
 * (Don't want to remove this).... I did respond, thanks for the heads up. For the record, I did vote to keep them because I do think the information is notable and overall the articles are in good shape, except for a few points that I brought up at AfD. - eo (talk) 16:43, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Is there a way of privately communicating with Wiki users other than through the talk pages? If so, I cannot find it.

Covers
Replied there. By the way, do you think this article Chillin has any notability? --Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 03:43, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Lily Allen discography
heya, could you please put a block on IP edits for this page, user 81.39.21.251 keeps on adding unsourced sales and certifications and keeps adding WP:BADCHARTS to the tables. thanks :) Mister sparky (talk) 16:49, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * thank you! :) Mister sparky (talk) 17:37, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Welcome - eo (talk) 17:43, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * me again, could you also put an IP block on the beyoncé knowles discography? been having alot of problems with ip's making up their own chart positions :( Mister sparky (talk) 02:28, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

You seem to be active right now
... so can you look at this AIV report that has been sitting for a while?&mdash;Kww(talk) 17:35, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Blocked both vandal + sockIP. - eo (talk) 17:43, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Re:Chillin
Now that Chillin has barely passed its notability I heavily cleaned up the article of all the fancruft, unsourced statements and unreliable sources. However, its creater is continuously reverting our changes to insert his fancruft in the article. I explained to him regarding why the changes were done, but its of no use. Can you warn the user by being a WP:3O? --Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 11:45, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * A block maybe is needed. Its still continuing. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 12:28, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Please hurry up. I won't edit on it further for fear of 3RR. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 12:35, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually I believe that a number of unreliable sources are there in the article which needs to be removed. However, removing them, we are only left with a single source ie the MTV one. Will that be enough to warranty notability. Also I tried to format the same references to keep them together but alas User:Tikkuy probably didnot understand that I was trying to help him, which led to the dispute and the block. I will try to explain it to him again. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 14:47, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That block really wasted much time, I was supposed to nominate another article for GA today. However I believe Tikkuy would listeen to why those edits are being done. If not I'll ask you to explain it to him. :) --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 15:01, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

(Outdent)By the way would you like to join Madonna wikiproject? --Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 15:07, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Chillin
Oops! Sorry about that. It was a genuine mistake. Thanks for cleaning up the article. I'd be quite happy to try and resolve this problem on Chillin's talk page, but I'm afraid every time I've tried to contact Legolas2186 about this kind of matter on talk pages, he/she has simply ignored me. Tikkuy (talk) 12:43, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, I just noticed - it's a violation of Wiki policy to revert someone's edit when it's on an article's talk page, right? Legolas2186 deleted my comment [|here]. I'd bet it wasn't accidental, too. Tikkuy (talk) 12:49, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

She Wolf
Take a look at, and see if you think it's time for semi-protection yet.&mdash;Kww(talk) 14:27, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Definitely - semi for 2 weeks. - eo (talk) 15:08, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

You're giving fake sources
You always change the charts of Europe Hot 100 singles. It's EUROPEAN HOT 100, not Europe Top 20. If you continue giving fake numbers, you will be blocked for vandalism. - —Preceding unsigned comment added by Terneris (talk • contribs) 13:05, 9 July 2009