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June 2010
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Non-bot welcome
Greetings Erictimewell - thanks for your contributions. Amazing work you've done on the Pedro Dot article. Congratulations! Don't let 'em get you down! Cheers! --Technopat (talk) 00:59, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your support, Technopat. I am perfectly happy to submit to Wiki principles, including those I don't yet know about. After all, they have produced Wikipedia. And so far I am pleased with the way my work is shaping up. I predict that it will reach a take-off point at which the rose maniacs will intervene, God bless them, and the thing will grow like Topsy.Erictimewell (talk) 07:17, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Uploading rose images to Wiki Commons
Yesterday I uploaded a rose photo in portrait mode. When it appeared in Wiki commons it had been tilted sideways to landscape form. And when I linked it to an article it remained in the wrong form. I re-loaded and nothing changed. Then I loaded a portrait photo of the same name. The new photo (same name) is correct as a thumbnail or at full size, but the medium size continues to be the original. I would like to get the first image right, appearing in its correct portrait form at all sizes. The name of the file is "Nancy Hayward.JPG", uploaded from "Nancy_Hayward.JPG". Erictimewell (talk) 00:04, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Have you tried to clean your cache? Use Ctrl+Alt+R. --Diego Grez let's talk 00:12, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * See WP:Bypass your cache for more details - the exact method will depend on your browser. FYI, the picture looks fine to me in all views so this solution should work.  AJ  Cham  00:17, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Diego. The cache fix fixed the different images; a big help. But what do I do about the portrait image which turned into a landscape one? Erictimewell (talk) 02:35, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * You would have to upload a new one, Wikipedia software can't rotate it. -- &#47; DeltaQuad &#124; Notify Me  &#92; 02:44, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Diego, I opened the original portrait version in Photoshop, in which I saved it. Then I imported the Photoshop version to Wiki Commons and it worked perfectly. Without your encouragement I would have done nothing. Erictimewell (talk) 10:20, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Margaret Furness
I'm a bit confused regarding the pics you've been uploading. Who is Margaret and what does she have to do with them? You claim the photos as your own work on their summary pages but credit her in the article, hence the confusion. 69.181.249.92 (talk) 00:08, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

That confusion was true of one photo, which has been removed. All and only the photos taken by Margaret Furness cite her as having taken them at the Wiki Commons end. Three of the four photos not naming her were taken by me and licensed to the public domain. The fourth was already on Wiki Commons. If in doubt, you can contact her at Margaret Furness  Sorry for the earlier lack of clarity. Two of her photos have since been replaced by others with much higher resolution. Erictimewell (talk) 03:19, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

No prob, it's just been festering in the back of my mind for a few days. I usually stay as far away from image issues as I can but this one just wouldn't leave me alone. :) 69.181.249.92 (talk) 07:41, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Pedro Dot
Maybe it's a matter of browsers (I'm using Safari), but I don't see the difference in line height to which you refer. Do you see the same problem on the millions of other articles on Wikipedia? --Millbrooky (talk) 04:13, 23 July 2010 (UTC) Millbrooky, I'm typing this on my knees. The problem always occurs when there are superscripts indicating references. But to check what you said, I looked up Wiki Pedro Dot using Safari and, presto! the problem completely disappeared. For non-Wiki reasons I greatly prefer Camino; there obviously lies the problem. Thanks for your help. Erictimewell (talk) 05:51, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use File:Riethmuller_in_his_Turramurra_garden.jpg
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I think I've used the wrong description of the image, digitised version of a unique slide its owners have released into the public domain. It provides irreplaceable information for Wiki Frank Riethmuller. Erictimewell (talk) 01:30, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

A high-resolution version of this photo is being prepared. I'll make it clear when it appears that it is in the public domain without qualification.Erictimewell (talk) 04:38, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Correct PD status inside and outside the US has now been established for a re-loaded and re-named low-resolution version of the photo. It can stand till the high-res version becomes available. Erictimewell (talk) 04:11, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Frank Riethmuller photo album


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There is a simple aesthetic reason for separating the old photos of the article's subject: in the main story they are a burden on the words. I can easily transfer them to the bottom of the parent article, but would rather not do so. There are more images to come, all of them historically unique. Still, If I don't hear from you in the next 12 hours I'll move the images. Erictimewell (talk) 04:35, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

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This image has now been tagged for US and non-US out-of-copyright. Erictimewell (talk) 04:13, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Frank Riethmuller photo album
I have nominated Frank Riethmuller photo album, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Frank Riethmuller photo album. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Steamroller Assault (talk) 09:06, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi there. I have sent this article over to a deletion discussion because of the guidelines set at WP:NOTREPOSITORY, which explain that Wikipedia is not a repository for image files. If you feel that these images can serve to improve the encyclopedic content of the Frank Riethmuller page, then they should be placed there. However, I am not certain that Wikipedia is better served with multiple photos of this individual, unless it can be shown that it aids the Frank Riethmuller article to have them there. Cheers, Steamroller Assault (talk) 09:16, 15 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Steamroller Assault, thanks for you explanation. The photos show that Riethmuller was a (somewhat fake) gentleman throughout his life, a bookmaker's clerk who smooched rich old ladies by naming roses after them, to over-simplify. If you think they would be better on the main page, or removed, I will respect your judgement. The colour photo on the main page is historic in a different way: it has the only known photo of a rose which is now extinct. Cheers, Erictimewell (talk) 10:23, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Why on earth have you posted public domain images here instead of the Commons? Why on earth attempt to create an image gallery here? Look for example at Settle Hydro. Do you see a box with a link to Wikimedia Commons near the bottom of the page? If you do image galleries that way, no-one will bother you. &mdash; RHaworth 17:34, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your help, RHaworth. But it comes too late: I've abandoned the album idea. Let it cease to exist. Erictimewell (talk) 00:00, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Riethmuller at Turramurra.jpg
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I'm working on Wiki "Wilhelm Kordes", which is a translation of the German site "W. Kordes' Söhne." That is, the German site names the firm W. Kordes & Sons. But the stub names only the original (not very important) founder. I need to know how to apply to have the name of the English site brought in line by being retitled W. Kordes' Söhne (or W. Kordes & Sons if that's thought to be a suitable translation.) Erictimewell (talk) 02:07, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
 * You can move the page to a new title by clicking on the "Move" button in the menu next to "History". / ƒETCH COMMS  /  02:12, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Fetchcomms, worked like a charm. Erictimewell (talk) 05:47, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

I notice that six months of my work on the Wiki entry for Frank Riethmuller has been heisted by Facebook. There is a fake Facebook entry appropriating my work. Worse, the fake entry has been promoted above the Wiki entry on a Google search. Can anything be done to stop this? Erictimewell (talk) 02:39, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you have a link? Morgan Kevin J (talk) 02:43, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The link is actually irrelevant. → ♠ Gƒoley ↔ Four ♣ ← 02:47, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, nothing's been stolen. Facebook simply gets its content from Wikipedia, and as far as I can tell, complies with Wikipedia's copyright terms. We cannot control their actions, at any rate. / ƒETCH COMMS  /  02:44, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * (e/c) They have not heisted it. They are using the content compliantly under the terms of the free distribution licenses every article in Wikipedia is licensed under. You can see their compliance notice clearly at the bottom of the page. In fact, if you click edit this page right now, you will see just below the edit box : --Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:50, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Correct in a way, guys. The Facebook appropriation is legal beyond doubt. But here we have a historical figure who died in 1965 provided with a Facebook page to which he has contributed nothing, including consent. And we have another historical figure, me, who has worked for six months unwittingly to provide all the material to the same page. At least 20 Google search items mechanically parasitise the same Wiki entry. But Facebook goes straight to the top of the list. Wiki should be talking to Google about it. Erictimewell (talk) 03:59, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * We do not control Google's search algorithms nor do we have any direct involvement in whether Facebook allows entries on historical figures. What exactly would we speak to Google about? "You should alter your practices because it's not fair that the second most popular website in the world is legally using our content when we created it? It's unseemly? I do know how it feels, and worse. This book  is selling on Amazon for $66 (as is this one for $9.99) and I wrote 95% of the content. But that's what we sign up for here. Content that we agree can be used by others, even for commercial purposes, so long as they comply with the our free licenses. At the end of the day, anyone reading our content at a site that is compliant with our licenses is being informed of where the content arose. By the way, this site is called Wikipedia, not wiki. A wiki is any website using wiki software; there are thousands of them.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:01, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Fughettaboutit, thanks for making me refine my complaint. I have no objection to others taking advantage of my work: that's why I am doing it on Wikipedia. My objection is to Facebook taking priority purely because it is "the world's second most popular website," not because some wise guy has written a post-Mormon algorithm for enlisting the dead to Facebook. There are excellent grounds for addressing Google, starting with the Google algorithms producing such a silly result set. But you seem focussed on whether Facebook's behaviour is legal … Sorry you got done over on Carom Billiards. Erictimewell (talk) 06:02, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The point is, we can't do anything about it. You'll just have to talk to Google. / ƒETCH COMMS  /  16:00, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

I now realise that many people are talking to Google, badly damaged by the "content farms." Read about it all on http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2011/01/trouble-in-the-house-of-google.html Erictimewell (talk) 23:13, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

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Sometimes the image police make one wonder if Wikipedia is worth it. Though File:Riethmuller POW report 1940.jpg has been online since August, the first objection goes straight to removal from the photo corpus. Rather than waste time, I'll reintroduce the image as a link. Meanwhile let's see if the national archive of Australia can guarantee the image's copyright status in a useable way. Erictimewell (talk) 03:13, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

A bit of appreciation for your work
I just came by to tell you how much I appreciate your work at W. Kordes' Sons and on the subject of roses in general. It's good work and certainly worthy of a barnstar or some other shiny gold star, but I find those a little awkward. There's a minor WP:MOS-issue at the list of Riethmuller roses but no worries, I'll fix that later. Cheers, --Six words (talk) 11:06, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, Six Words. I am well past the elephant stamp stage. I like people who take the trouble to understand what I am trying to do. Therefore, thank you for amending my links. Erictimewell (talk) 03:23, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

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Dear Magog, I honestly don't remember where I got that photo – it's so long ago. But it's no longer in use on any of the sites I've started, so please just delete it. Erictimewell (talk) 20:43, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Note about rose garden edits
Thanks for this note, most helpful. Have some experience with other Wiki rose articles and love the subject, but I'm not familiar with all conventions. I'm still working on this page and hope to get it finalised and through tomorrow. Will check back and revert where I've got single and double speech marks wrong. Thanks again. Libby norman (talk) 21:23, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

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Naming conventions hopefully all present and correct
Nieuwesteeg Heritage Rose Garden is now live (finally!). Do hope I got the rose naming conventions right – I did go back and check following your helpful note. Libby norman (talk) 14:58, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Libby, just saw your note. In my opinion you got everything right. People are already using this article as a guide. I'm adding better or extra photos and a few tiny details, but to my mind it's essentially complete. Erictimewell (talk) 00:06, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

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I know nothing about roses and I knew nothing about Olive but I enjoyed her bio ... great work. Castlemate (talk) 01:08, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Castlemate. I'm touched to have your opinion. Erictimewell (talk) 05:40, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

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Mushrooms
To clarify - is that the entire poem? DS (talk) 02:07, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

DS, I don't know. I only know it from the online version of the review as cited, and there is no indication that it is complete or not. Erictimewell (talk) 03:29, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

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Zpeopleheart, thank you for alerting me to the problem. The solution must be to remove any claim in the offending passage which can't be sourced elsewhere, which amounts to very little of it. I will note this in the Talk section, and quickly fillet the offending details. Then I will get back to you and see if the result is up to Wikipedia standard. Erictimewell (talk) 08:24, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
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Zpeopleheart, I think there's a general problem here. The fewer published sources on any topic, the more likely a summary is to read as plagiarism. But I can live with this. Back to the drawing board. Erictimewell (talk) 08:42, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Zpeopleheart, I think the pottery section is now unimpeachable. See what you think. Erictimewell (talk) 09:09, 17 November 2015 (UTC) Since I wrote that, the author of the potentially copyrighted website has informed me that exactly the same material is available online under Creative Commons Non-commercial licensing. Naturally I have inserted the new reference into the concealed parts of the article. Can we now cancel the fatwa? Erictimewell (talk) 01:10, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

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Waterhouse
Thanks for the E.G. Waterhouse article. It's been needed for a long time! Whiteghost.ink (talk) 01:53, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Whiteghost, thanks for the thanks. Thanks also for the photos. Two of mine are there only till superseded by better ones. I want to do more to clarify the prose about EGW's landscaping; maybe in a week or two. Erictimewell (talk) 06:38, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Whiteghost.ink, can I ask your advice? Are there any made landscapes left in Sydney known to have been made by Waterhouse, especially but not only at the University of Sydney? I have added a mixed bag of camellia photos to the Waterhouse article, and other websites provide plenty of photos of Eryldene. But this sharpens the lack of visual material on Waterhouse-made landscapes. If there are any, I'll try to come up to Sydney this spring and take photos for the article. If not, we'll have to see what can be obtained from the University itself. Erictimewell (talk) 03:08, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your efforts over the years on EGW. It all helps to promote the house and the open days. I put a post about it in the Eryldene Fb page https://www.facebook.com/eryldenehistorichouseandgarden/posts/10162264385770093 Cheers Silent Billy (talk) 09:28, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, Silent Billy. Actually my nom de Wiki is remarkably similar to my legal name. I have long-term plans for the Waterhouse article, especially for photos of his landscaping work, but it's hard to get up from Melbourne to Sydney when gardens are at their best. Meanwhile I'm plugging away at the camellia photos. On another topic, his closest architect friend finished up a raving anti-Semite; I'd love to know what Waterhouse really thought about the Second World War. Perhaps you know someone who can help. Erictimewell (talk) 10:49, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Another Sydney architect, John James (Readers Digest House and notable dwellings), wrote a thesis on the New Guard which I imagine would be accessible at Sydney University somewhere. This might contain info on Waterhouse among others. Waterhouse knew among others de Groot - he purchased/commissioned furniture from him. Try to contact Penny Holden via the house - she has info on a lot of stuff.

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 * Dear Vladlen, I didn't know which option to choose when I uploaded the file. But I provide the exact information in the text. The file was in the Australian National Archive but has now been released from ALL COPYRIGHT RESTRICTION by them. The original author of the photo was unknown to them and is unknown to us. Is there a correct way for me to indicate this? If so, please tell me and I'll do it.  Erictimewell (talk) 07:45, 7 May 2023 (UTC) Erictimewell (talk) 07:45, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Do you have a proper source for this photo? You identified this image as coming from the Australian National Archive with [Item ID: 33057283], but when I looked at the record for that item Id, the image is a different one.  If you can provide the correct image ID, I can help get this sorted out. -- Whpq (talk) 15:07, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Whpq, there are now two photos from the same collection under the same conditions. The first is at https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=33057283 and the second is at https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=33057282. When I wrote to NAA asking for permission they replied that they were entirely out of copyright but they would like acknowledgement that NAA had provided them. Beside the point: I paid them $35 for a high-res copy of the first photo which has so far not been provided. Erictimewell (talk) 06:19, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Copyright gets very confusing, and is seldom as straightforward as it might seem. The photo is from the A6135 series which were photos by the Australian Overseas Information Service or equivalent.  These would put them under Crown Copyright which is publication + 50 years.  As these images were from 1972 (and I assume these would have been published at that time), 1972+50 would mean that these images are Public Domain in Australia as of Jan 1, 2023.  However, the English Wikipedia, requires that photos be freely licensed in the United States.  This gets complicated because of the URAA.  I am unsure how URAA affects government works so I will need to do some more digging to get this figured out. -- Whpq (talk) 19:53, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks Whpq. Enlightening. Erictimewell (talk) 02:00, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * After reading through the documentation at Commons, these images are public domain world wide because the Crown Copyright is expired, and Australia has waived any copyright worldwide at the expiration of its copyright so there is no issue with any URAA restored copyright. PD-AustraliaGov is the appropriate licensing templates for these two images.  I'll take care of fixing up the licensing and information.  Thanks for finding these free images. -- Whpq (talk) 18:13, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Dear Whoq, great news! Many thanks for the trouble you have taken to provide these two photos to the public. Now I can go ahead and get high-res versions of both. They give is documentary evidence of how their subject lived and worked in the now-distant 1970s. Erictimewell (talk) 21:44, 10 May 2023 (UTC) Erictimewell (talk) 21:44, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

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 * Thanks, Josh. Delete, delete. I've since visited the garden and it's too mediocre to be worth an article in my view. Erictimewell (talk) 03:18, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
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