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2006 Israel-Lebanon crisis
Please read references before changing facts and do not then revert once you have been warned. Xtra 01:36, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

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It is a source. You are not. Xtra 02:04, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Hello Erpals, in the future, please discuss significant changes on talk. The name change has been extensively debated there, and the consensus is to keep "crisis" name. Cheers,  Tewfik Talk 05:37, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

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The links and information above are very important to understanding the methods of operating in Wikipedia. Crucial are no original research and the need to use reliable sources, and make sure any controversial changes are first discussed on the Talk page. I can relate to your anxiety and concern (my family is Baghdadi), but believe me when I tell you that editing in anything but a dispassionate manner will not make much progress. In terms of your specific concerns, I can tell you that Lebanon's role in the conflict is unique in a military/legal/moral sense, and so the standard paradigm is struggling to deal with it. Thus far, there have been three separate columns made to attempt to express this, though I don't think that removing Lebanon much more is going to happen, though you can raise your concerns on Talk. In terms of "civilians," a major problem has been that the mainstream press doesn't distinguish between civilians and militants, so that the number indeed can include "guerilla, terrorist, or otherwise" as you put it, or even Hezbollah. The only solution to this is to find a reliable source that makes a distinction. For better or for worse, the Israelis do distinguish between their military and civilian dead in the press, so we can and do qualify the number of their dead with those terms.

I have certainly considered your words, and I am pained by the suffering of everyone in our region. All human life is indeed valuable.  Tewfik Talk 07:31, 18 July 2006 (UTC)