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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Michele Ragussis - Guy Fieri.jpg


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Nomination of Demons (Sleigh Bells song) for deletion
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:American pornographic film actors of German descent


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Food Network Star and Martie Duncan

 * Hi. I saw a recent help desk post, purportedly from a blog owner, asking for links to his blog to be removed. Editors (including I) then removed Duncan's age from the mentioned articles, as it appeared to be poorly sourced. Using a blog as a source about a living person (in this case, as the sole source for Duncan's age) falls afoul of our verifiability policy and likely also our biographies of living persons policy. Please reread those policies as well as Identifying reliable sources. If you find a better, more reliable source for the removed information, you may then add it back to the articles. Thanks, PleaseStand (talk) 22:56, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Wow, I figured blog owners would want more attention. Anyway, she actually did say that in the episode, but I'll look for a better source.  Erpert  Who is this guy? 23:28, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Category: Transgender wikipedians

 * Forgive me if I'm wrong but arn't transsexuals transgender? At least thats what the transgender article seems to indicate.-Rainbowofpeace (talk) 02:57, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I might be wrong (I'm pansexual myself), but I thought the difference between transsexuals and transgender people is that transsexuals generally still have opposite-sex body parts; whereas transgender people simply used to identify as a different sex (then again, Chaz Bono reportedly doesn't have a penis...).  Erpert  Who is this guy? 03:06, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm transsexual myself and I was always told anyone who feels they are not their assigned gender is transgender and that you are transsexual if you want hormones or surgery.-Rainbowofpeace (talk) 04:25, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, it looks like the research will continue. ;)  Erpert  Who is this guy? 04:26, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
 * This article http://www.lgbt.ucla.edu/documents/APAGenderIdentity.pdf says that transsexual people are a specific form of transgender.-Rainbowofpeace (talk) 04:31, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
 * That actually comes from a brochure from the American Psychological Association. I strongly believe thats good enough source for you to take down your rename proposal. Maybe you could make Transsexual wikipedians a subcategory.-Rainbowofpeace (talk) 05:18, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
 * If you oppose it, don't discuss it on my talk page; discuss it here.  Erpert  Who is this guy? 08:40, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Stephen Guarino

 * Actually the source for Stephen Guarino is quite clear that he identifies as gay; the trick is to actually advance to the second page of the interview. Of course additional sources should be added if at all possible, but the existing one does cover that detail. Bearcat (talk) 23:59, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Then wouldn't it have made sense to actually add the source from that page to the article? Never mind; I already did it.  Erpert  Who is this guy? 00:50, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * There's no requirement to relink to multiple pages of the same article as separate references; linking to the first page alone is sufficient. Also, incidentally, regarding your frequent edits with the summary "so-and-so wasn't born in two cities", please note that people are not restricted to being categorized solely as "from" the place where they were born; they can be categorized as being from any place where they've lived, at any time in their entire lives, for long enough for that fact to be properly sourceable and relevant. If a person is born in San Francisco, moves to Phoenix in early childhood and remains there until they're 18, and then moves to Minneapolis as an adult and becomes notable while living there, then they can be categorized as being "from" all three places. Bearcat (talk) 00:42, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
 * They can be categorized as being from any place they lived? Is this a guideline? Anyway, a discussion that contradicts that notion took place here.  Erpert  Who is this guy? 08:31, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
 * And that discussion specifically points to the actual guideline on the matter, which specifically says that they can be categorized by any place where they resided for long enough for that fact to be meaningful and relevant -- otherwise, the only "discussion" I see in that particular spot is you and one other person agreeing on how you think it should be handled in one particular case, without actually suggesting any broader policy implications at all.
 * Of course, that doesn't mean that people need to be added to categories for places where they might have lived only briefly -- for example, if that hypothetical person in my previous example also spent a few weeks in Kansas City between living in Phoenix and Minneapolis, but didn't do anything of note while they were there, then they're not "from" Kansas City in any meaningful way. But if their entire public career took place in Minneapolis, such that their notability is specifically tied to that city (e.g. they became notable by participating in Minneapolis' music scene or by serving part or all of Minneapolis as an elected politician), then they're certainly "from" Minneapolis whether they were born there or not. And similarly, if their parents actually lived in Phoenix, but happened to be on vacation San Francisco at the time of their birth, then they're not really "from" San Francisco in any meaningful way, regardless of what's on their birth certificate, because they really only "lived" there for the first few days of their lives.
 * In a nutshell, people can be categorized as being "from" any place where they lived for long enough for that fact to be meaningfully relevant to an encyclopedia article about them -- sometimes where they were born will count, and sometimes it won't. Sometimes where they grew up will count, and sometimes it won't. Some places where they lived as an adult will count, and some places won't. It really depends on the individual, and on which places did or didn't play a meaningful role in their life story. Certainly there will be some cases where a "people from" category is just trivia that isn't particularly relevant to the actual content of the article, and it doesn't need to be there in such cases -- but the rule isn't that people can only be categorized as being "from" the place where they were born; it's that they can be categorized as being "from" any place that plays a meaningful role in the story that the article is telling.
 * Barack Obama, for instance, is (and quite rightly should be) categorized as being "from" both Honolulu and Chicago, since both places play a meaningful role in his biography, but he isn't categorized as being "from" some other places where he lived for shorter periods of time, like LA and NYC. Bearcat (talk) 21:29, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
 * All that talk and you still didn't answer my question: is that a guideline? Must not be. Why do you even care so much? Leave me alone, please.  Erpert  Who is this guy? 22:52, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Firstly, yes, I did answer the question. It most certainly is the standard guideline, as spelled out at Categorization of people (specifically the "By place" subsection) -- and as I pointed out earlier, it's linked to in the very discussion that you cited to "prove" your point (except that it didn't, because it linked to that very guideline and the actual discussion was only about which places warranted or didn't warrant categorization for that one specific person in accordance with the guideline, not about whether the guideline itself was inherently wrong.) And secondly, if you want me to "leave you alone", then don't make edits that I'm going to need to talk to you about -- because I'm under no more obligation than any other editor on this site to let a problematic edit slide just because the person who made it doesn't want to be talked to. So if you don't want me to point out when your edits are wrong or mistaken, then either (a) don't make wrong or mistaken edits in the first place, or (b) accept that people can and will point out when you make a mistake, and learn to be a little more gracious about it. Bearcat (talk) 01:51, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
 * If it was such a problematic edit, how come no one mentioned it before you did? And the subsection you pointed out (and I'll admit I didn't see the guideline at first) says people are sometimes categorized by notable residence, not always. Thus, my edit was not necessarily incorrect, much less problematic. (And the residence is notable in whose opinion, anyway?) Also, as far as being gracious, um...WP:POT, anyone? Admins need to show respect too.  Erpert  Who is this guy? 02:49, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Category:American actors of German descent

 * Why did you recreate this category despite it having been upmerged by a previous CfD discussion? Is there any change that justified creating this category again?John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:49, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I created this category back in July; I didn't recreate anything. How about looking at the dates in the history before you accuse me of something?  Erpert  Who is this guy?
 * The category was upmerged back in Febuary of 2011. See the link to the discussion from Category:American actors of English descent and this category is clearly one of the categories upmerged at that time.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:17, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Over a year before I created it? How would I have known that? And I haven't even thought about this category since I created it in July. Sheesh, get a life.  Erpert  Who is this guy? 17:26, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

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 * As usual you wholly misinterpreted my words...I was referring to your final reply at BLPN, and I have no idea to which other "reply" are you referring. Maybe you have a real failure in understanding what people say, maybe you are just playing... however please consider the discussion closed and you yourself banned from my talk page, I have no time to spend in lame, unconstructive and endless discussions about a giant nothing. Any further message will be deleted without response. My best, Cavarrone (talk) 10:20, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
 * That's the reply you were referring to? I don't recall you clarifying that. Also, the last time I checked, a non-admin cannot ban another user from his talk page (not that I planned to go back there anyway...). Also, this isn't a warning (as though you had the right to issue one anyway); a warning is made via a template on WP:UTM. And I don't see why you're acting like this considering you're the one that caused all the trouble.  Erpert  Who is this guy? 10:29, 27 January 2013 (UTC)