User talk:Escape Orbit/Archive 10

Status Quo
I have not reverted any edits to Status Quo (Band). Continuing to revert edits to the redirect page of Status Quo is as you said, edit warring, which you started. I have placed a request that all 3 pages be temporarily protected pending a decision. I suggest you discontinue edit warring immediately. At the least, the redirect page will soon be changed to a disambiguation page. Your assumption that the band is the predominant intended page when people search for the latin phrase is both unfounded and egotistical. Stop vandalizing wikipedia to further your personal goal of pushing the band on people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnthonyQBachler (talk • contribs) 19:46, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

This is to inform you that I have reported your repeated edit warring and requested that you be blocked. AQBachler (talk) 22:22, 2 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I refer anyone interested to my original replies to AnthonyQBachler, which he immediately deleted; here and here. Also my ANI request here; Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 22:26, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

There is constant vandalism on the Kentucky Wildcats Men's Basketball Page
There is constant vandalism on the Kentucky Wildcat Men's Basketball Page. It is from unregistered users mostly, but also from CBBStats who is editing with false information because he does not agree with the terminology and categories of the page. Please protect this page again, as the situation seems to be getting worse, and I'm constantly having to watch the page and revert the vandalism. Thank You.- Jbfwildcat — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbfwildcat (talk • contribs) 04:44, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Content disputes are not vandalism. What you are best doing is trying to discuss the content on the talk page and find out exactly what problem CBBStats has with the content.  His edit summaries suggest that what is there is not to be found in the cited sources, but it needs to be clarified.  Are they there?
 * Until this is done no-one else can tell whether one or other of you is in the right, or whether it's simply a matter of reaching a compromise between you. But simply reverting each other's edits achieves very little. All that is likely to achieve is a temporary protection of the page to prevent edit warring, and that may not be on the version you prefer. -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 20:58, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Ok then, I've listed sources, and my stats are accurate. Where are his sources?- Jbfwildcat — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.135.54.194 (talk) 23:10, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ask him. -- Escape Orbit (Talk) 23:47, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Please Please let me do this edit
HI

Im working with a the journalist mentionned in the article I am tryign to change.

She is currently travelling to a dangerous country to do some undercover work. Upon arrival at the airport she will be googled and the first thing that shows up is her wikipedia page which says she is a journalist. This could be very dangerous for her.

We would just like to change the edit for two weeks and then we can revert to the original article. Its just so that she can do her undercover work, which will benefit many people.

Please Please help me with this. Here is what I have been tryign to do:

Can you change this text:'

Ramita Navai is a Britain-based freelance journalist who makes regular contributions to a number of European media outlets, including The Independent, The Irish Times, The Sunday Herald and Britain's Channel 4. She is a graduate of the City University, London. She was the recipient of the Broadcast Journalism Training Council's 2003 Young Broadcast Journalist of the Year award. As she holds an Iranian passport, she writes regularly about the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Works include an investigation into Witch Killings in Papua New Guinea and Kurdish Honor Killings in Turkey for Channel 4's Unreported World. [edit] External links

* BJTC's 2003 Young Broadcast Journalist Award

With this text:

Ramita Navai is a London based Interior Designer who specialises in Persian Interiors. SHe regualrly contributes to editions such as Homes and garden and Interior Design.

She has renovated numorous old persian homes and palaces for which she has received numourous distinctions.

Currenlty Ramita is working with UNESCO to promote persian culture.

(And please remove the link) — Preceding unsigned comment added by InesWard (talk • contribs) 12:05, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Well thanks for the reply
Hi even though we can't delete all traces of the said journalist, it would help if we could erase as much as we could. Any little helps! Please help us.
 * I'm not unsympathetic to what you're trying to do, but I think what you are trying to do will not work, and is pretty futile actually. If you are reliant on this happening then you've pick someone with too high a profile to achieve it, and left it too late to create a covering story.  Beyond that, Wikipedia has pretty solid policy about this.  It's not censored, for any reason.  But if you wish to take the matter further you could follow the advice on this page.  But I don't think you'll get what you wish.  You may also inadvertently achieve the Streisand effect. -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 12:27, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Tatianna Mollmann
Hi.. have remade the page. Could you pls advise if it is acceptable. Thanks =) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jagjeetpradeep (talk • contribs) 21:17, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Folding Legs
Dear Escape Orbit, I am trying to create a page for the band Folding Legs (who were previously Otterclan here on Wikipedia for a long time). Some very unintelligent kids attempted to create this page yesterday, causing a large amount of damage as they resorted to copy-pasting information from the band's Facebook page, without editing or keeping objectivity in mind. I am sure they were doing it with the best of intentions, as fans, but instead the band name has now become salted here on Wikipedia. Understandably so, and I am sure you can see the history for the page yourself. I sincerely want to rectify their wrongdoings and have taken it upon myself to create a band page in my sandbox, hoping to find an editor who might be willing to give me pointers until it is ready to go live, and ultimately help me post the site on the live Wikipedia. My first draft of the site already lies in my sandbox. Any advice would be highly appreciated. Thank you, and have a nice day. Tailtrap (talk) 20:10, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Reply on Tailtrap's talk page. -- Escape Orbit (Talk) 21:27, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Dear Escape Orbit, thank you very much for your time and attention to this matter. It means a lot to get your advise and support. I think the changes you made to the article make perfect sense, and understand what you mean in regards to the bands notability. I will get working on that, and see what I can dig up. I'll definitely get back to you when I have some more meat on my bones! Thank you again, and have a great day. Tailtrap (talk) 00:12, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Your latest edit to IfL
With regards this edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Institute_for_Learning&diff=450369592&oldid=450366946 the use of the phrase making something 'clear' isn't POV - it's just a different way of saying exactly what you have said, you just don't like it - and that *is* a POV, rather than an objective perspective on what has been written. In addition, you've pulled half the quote with no explanation.

Sonicslice (talk) 19:57, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Of course it's POV. It is voicing an opinion on how effective the communication is.  For instance, if we were to replace "made it clear" with "waffled", "proclaimed", "stood firm", "admitted" or "apologised", would that also be saying the same thing?  Of course not, because it is casting the shadow of an opinion to things.  Far better to use a neutral word to convey that is what they said, rather than trying to suggest how it was said.
 * I removed half of what I made clearer was a quote, rather than an unattributed opinion, because I didn't think it was actually adding anything to the statement. Naturally, the IfL will say that they intend to do their job.  It's devoid of any real, new, information.   However, if you think it's telling something significant I wouldn't argue over it.  -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 22:49, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Sony edit
You blanked a section of PlayStation_Network_outage saying it was "original research" whilst removing the very references you implied the section required - please explain further EdwardLane (talk) 13:09, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, please do explain. It can't be OR if it's attributed to a reliable source, which this was. Swarm  u /  t 13:17, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Happy to explain. The source that was referenced was the Sony Playstation Network Service Agreement, a primary source.  Adding to this article amounts to interpretation of the primary source.
 * The agreement says lots of things (21 pages of it), but someone unidentified has selected one particular clause and decided, through their own opinion and research, that this is of relevance to the event of the PlayStation Network outage and should be mentioned in the article. This unidentified person is not an authority on Sony, service agreements, or legal contracts, so we have no way of verifying that this analysis and association is valid, accurate or relevant.  It's original research in that the cite given does not mention the outage, so the connection is only as suggested within the article.  If you want to have it in the article you need a reliable source that makes the connection for you.
 * The statement prior to this was properly cited, as these particular changes to the agreement are discussed by a reliable source that makes reference to the outage. Another user removed this as being not strictly related to the outage, and already covered elsewhere.  I'm not so sure about those reasons, but understand them.  -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 16:39, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I thought you had blanked the whole section as OR; it seems you just removed the T/C quotation, so my mistake. You did however, unwittingly remove a reference, so watch out for that in the future! Swarm  u /  t 16:56, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, just checked back on my edit and noticed I did remove the BBC cite as well. That was unintentional and my mistake.  Apologies. -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 17:04, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't perceive that picking a particular chunk out of the document counted as original research - but I can see what you mean - I did get the reference and the section from another source - but they included a link to the original document so I used the original as a source rather than a web page commenting on it. It should be easy enough to track down the reference.

EdwardLane (talk) 18:00, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Apollo Hoax in Popular Culture
An article that you have been involved in editing, Apollo hoax in popular culture, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/Apollo hoax in popular culture (2nd nomination). Thank you. Senior Trend (talk) 05:09, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Highlandjacobite
Hi! The same thing was said about Homer's iliade until schlieman dug the place up and proved the existence of troy. If we don't accept Blind Harry as a source just because he made some mistakes we risk losing a lot of valuable information. Ps in medieval times leaders of armies had to participate in battle and be a good example,therefore to follow a sympathetic, tall and physically strong commander like Wallace motivated men to fight for liberty even with such unpredictable odds. Where would you add my edit ??? Thanks --Highlandjacobite (talk) 18:27, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

THANKS
I found a place for my edit in military career plase do not delete it again.THANKS--Highlandjacobite (talk) 19:25, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Hotlist
Can you put me in touch with an admin, then? We just want to have the accurate name of our company - I don't see how that's a conflict of interest. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dbeynon22 (talk • contribs) 14:27, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

27 Club
Whats the big idea why did you delete my post that was important to improving the article I was arguing for Amy's inclusion, and pointing out to all these rather ignorant users who go on about her not having any impact or influence all the people she inspired (Lady Gaga, Adele) if anything you should delete their ignorant posts about Amy winehouse only ever having had mixed or minor success. --Kobloi (talk) 16:36, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The point is that an argument based on how different people consider Winehouse's importance is totally irrelevant to whether she appears on this article or not. No one cares how important you think she is.  No one cares how important other editors think she is.  It's reliable sources that matter, and their inclusion of Winehouse.   Additionally, your contribution was not constructive in that it insulted other editors.  Please don't do that. -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 13:48, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Well I will admit I was being a total dick to the other users, which fair enough I do deserve a warning probably more for, but I was only mentioning her importance and influence as an artist because so many people were trying to get her taken off the club based on their opinions that she wasn't important or influential at all. In fact some people have just removed her from the list several times because they think she doesn't measure up to the others on the list.--Kobloi (talk) 15:23, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Re: Warnings
Baseball  Watcher  23:52, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Okay
Didn't know about that, thanks (: Be— —Critical  19:12, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Administrator intervention against vandalism
Thanks for your report on Applecore91 at Administrator intervention against vandalism. How this vandal got away without being blocked for so many years is a mystery. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:23, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * It's amazing what some get away with if done over a long period and at a low level. Just takes a little bit of digging. :) -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 14:48, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Protected page Genting Group
Genting Group page has recently been protected by administrators due to content dispute. However the current protected version contains both vandalism and defamation of living persons. Although these articles are referenced, they are misleading by referencing deliberate factual errors and impropertly cited materials. Examples of this includes use of blogs and tabloid articles as sources. Additionally, the use of correct referencing of other unrelated individuals, particularly relating to the articles on organized crime and links to North Korea is intended to mislead, as the sources itself do not mention the Company or its Chairman but another wholly unrelated figure. Please properly check the sources as none of them verify or even mention a relationship between the Company or its Chairman to the unrelated controversial figure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.83.105.33 (talk) 03:57, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * A copy of this message was also sent to my talk page. I have replied to it here. JamesBWatson (talk) 20:52, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Re changes to the Aled Jones Television section
To Escape Orbit

Re your removal of my entry regarding Aled that he had "made numerous guest appearances on all TV Channels" with the comment that this was "vague and uninformative", I deliberately did not go into details as I thought this would make the entry too long and was likely to be removed for that reason!

However, here are some

Sound of Musicals (BBC) - see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhfqdUK0G1w

Celebrate Oliver (BBC) - see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4UblTWMw2c

Never Mind the Buzzcocks (BBC 2) - see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWTHwxMnlc4

Alan Titchmarsh Show - (ITV) numerous times see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydWBxn2SnFk  and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg_4dxW4n4E

Loose Women (ITV) a number of times, latest see http://www.itv.com/loosewomen/celebrity-guests/aled-jones-interview/

The Wright Stuff (Channel 5) - numerous times - see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd8TAqnZmiA and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlaNaoTzs6k

I was trying to differentiate between programmes on which Aled is (has been) the presenter or a main participant, and those on which he has made appearances as a guest.

Mindda (talk) 19:20, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Lasso of Truth
I disagree that Dr. Jen Gunter's wielding of the lasso of truth is trivial. She is a notable female physician active on Twitter, and for a pop culture artifact decades-old to be alluded to in modern social media arguably deserves mention in and of itself. Heck, she's dressing up as Wonder Woman this Halloween! If Groucho Glasses have an after-life, why not Wonder Woman's Lasso of Truth? kencf0618 (talk) 21:42, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * What's important is Jen Gunter's relevance to the Lasso of Truth, not vice versa. Gunter making a joking reference to it doesn't really have any significance to Wonder Woman's lasso, or anyone's understanding of it.  She's not that famous. -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 21:48, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Antivirus software
Hi, Escape Orbit

I am quite confused and unsettled after this edit: Did you not notice that The Register and Symantec are not saying the same things? More importantly, did you notice that the new statement in the article is not saying the same thing as the two?

We know that BIOS-infecting viruses do exists and we know that they are more difficult to remove (and the article is indeed saying the same thing) but we must not add unpublished syntheses of the original source material to Wikipedia &ndash which is what The Register has done to Symantec's info.

If you want to add anything to the section, you are not really short of authentic material: You can write about CIH, the fact that BIOS is getting replaced by Unified Extensible Firmware Interface and that Windows 8 is adding support for Protected Boot Path, etc.

Fleet Command (talk) 01:21, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Student Party‎


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Red Haired Man
According to wikipedia you are the original up-loader of a picture of a young red headed man.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/Red_Headed_Young_Man.jpg/220px-Red_Headed_Young_Man.jpg

This picture to be precise. It is of the utmost importance that I know where you got the picture and if there any of the same man. I would really appreciate a reply. I know this isn't really the place to discuss such matters but I have no where else to go.

Thanks very much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.176.222.223 (talk) 03:36, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes. I realise it says I was the original uploader, but that is an error.  I was not. I looked back at the history of Red hair to discover it was this editor; User talk:Schwingy.  I've fixed what it says on the Commons page so it is correctly attributed. -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 17:19, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Old chap!
Dear friend Escape Orbit, I answered your problem presentation, see Talk:Smoking ban.--Watson system (talk)

Tim Gustard
In my opinion this article was written by its subject and is about a semi-amateur artist of purely local significance, so hardly a fitting subject for a wikipedia entry. Fillthemill (talk) 22:27, 5 November 2011 (UTC)fillthemill

OK
I noticed that jsut few seconds ago. OK. Boniek1988 (talk) 01:31, 6 November 2011 (UTC) Oh, I didn't knew that. Really sorry. I spotted such a think in one of other foreign relations articles. Really sorry.Boniek1988 (talk) 01:37, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It was quite quickBoniek1988 (talk) 02:04, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Saskia Burmeister
The photographer?? Where did you find that the photographer beleives it's her?? I know her since I was a teen and I can confirm you that it's not her! I'm not the only one who thinks so. Look at this discussion. In the photo description there's written that they were at the premiere of a film called The Hunted, but if you search in the web, you don't find anything about this matter except this wrong photo. Do you think I'm stupid?? I can perfectly recognize her, trust me! Look, her husband has got brown eyes, while the person shown in the photo has got blue eyes. But it's so obvious that he's another person. An user noticed it wasn't her husband too.--Supremo (talk) 23:38, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Please discuss this on the talk page. -- Escape Orbit (Talk) 23:45, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * However, I didn't know anything about the three-revert rule.--Supremo (talk) 01:27, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I've shown that I'm right. Check the talk page.--Supremo (talk) 01:33, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, you were right. Thanks for pointing this out and finding a solution. -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 10:58, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

TTS
Thanks for takingthat stuff off Will — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.97.117.68 (talk) 22:12, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem. I doubt it's true. -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 23:25, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Celtic was/were
You are correct that if you replace Celtic with the full name 'was' sounds more correct. Although in this BBC article they use were instead of was. Adam4267 (talk) 16:52, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It depends on whether you are referring more to Celtic as a collection of people/players/etc, or as a singular club. In this case you wouldn't say the collection of people "were formed", but the club "was". In the BBC article it's much more about the players collectively, they were winners.  It's a judgement call with no hard rules.  And just to make it more complicated, the Americans don't have any such difference in their English.  They always say "was", treating the collective as a singular. -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 18:00, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I get what you mean, I've always been a bit confused whether to use was or were for football clubs but it's a bit clearer now. Adam4267 (talk) 18:19, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia: WikiProject Biography
Howdy. Just wanted to say 'thanks', for commenting on the proposals & not attacking me :) GoodDay (talk) 00:32, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

November 2011
Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from Religious debates over the Harry Potter series. When removing content, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the content has been restored, as you can see from the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Religious_debates_over_the_Harry_Potter_series&action=history page history]. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Tag the material if you believe it is OR or Synthesis or Unsourced and allow me to work, please. Elizium23 (talk) 00:04, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Reply on Elizium23's talk page. I stated quite clearly on my edit summary, and on the article talk page, what I was doing and why.  I was reverting original synthesis. -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 00:23, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

AfD is broken
The AfD you just attempted to start hasn't transcluded properly. See WP:AFD/T. I'd fix it, but I've gotta sort something else out. —Tom Morris (talk) 17:43, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I fixed it. -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 17:44, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

..
Dude, I was reverting vandalism. I have no idea why I was warned, the edit I reverted was a blantant BLP violationSensesfail123 (talk) 01:04, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry it was a mistake on both our parts. You accidentally reverted a revert of the vandalism. -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 01:06, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Discussion
You sent me a message regarding on what I was discussing about on a talk page because I was not discussing about the right thing. Why did you send me that message?--ScienceGeek (talk) 17:37, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Because you were attempting to start a discussion about the article subjects, rather than about the articles. e.g. "do you like science"   The Wikipedia talk page about Chemistry is there to discuss improving the Chemistry article, not for you to share your opinions about Chemistry with other users.  There are plenty of forums on the internet where you can discuss this, but not on Wikipedia.  This guideline here explains it all. -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 20:32, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me that I will try not to do that.--ScienceGeek (talk) 11:22, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

SPOTY edits
Hey, just thought it might be worth trying a general discussion on this sort of thing rather than fly by a bunch of featured lists and remove content without consensus? Just a thought. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:06, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, it wasn't anything actually wrong (i.e. there wasn't a problem), and these lists had been reviewed and content agreed upon during their respective candidacies. That's why I thought it best to seek new consensus.  The Rambling Man (talk) 07:55, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Creating a table comparing nationalities isn't WP:OR and WP:UNDUE? As I said, nothing in the award takes nationality into consideration, so why feature it prominently? Why label Sebastian Coe, chairman of a company owned by the UK government, funded by the British taxpayer, winning an award from the British Broadcasting Corporation for his efforts in helping Britain obtain the right to host the Olympics, as English?  His English nationality has no relevancy at all, far less needing a flag icon. I'd call these problems.  Maybe not massive, but I can't see any justification for it.  -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 16:55, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, you've got a fair few lists to go. I think hundreds, maybe thousands of lists have such comparisons, and many have had the consensus of the community via the WP:FLC process.  So will you be doing the other SPOTY lists too?  It would be useful to know so I can let our FLC community know that this is your intent going forward, so as not to waste their time.  Also worth noting that the SPOTY lists form part of a featured topic so them having a similar approach is somewhat expected. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:19, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I can see plenty of articles in WP:FL that don't list or compare nationalities, either because it simply isn't relevant, or pointless because the criteria for inclusion dictates that they'd all be the same. The content of an article should be on the basis of what is right for that article. In these instances their home nationality is not relevant, and indeed, the BBC would be most distressed if anyone was to suggest otherwise. (See definition of who is eligible.)
 * But you must appreciate that attempts at uniformity must always have its limits. Or should we be adding  nationality to this and school to this? -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 18:10, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Those examples are excellent because a lot of the time, nationalities are added (try any number of NBA lists, e.g. 1970 NBA Draft). Your second example has a "wins by nationality" table too.  Is that okay?  I'm not sure the nationality of someone is WP:OR if referenced, but I concede that in some cases a table of "which nationality won the most...." gives undue weight.  However, as I said before, it would be handy if you would let me know that you'll finish what you started and remove nationality from the other SPOTY lists within the featured topic, and that you'll continue to do so despite a consensus to keep them in (albeit unspoken, but consensus by silence via the many hundreds of FLCs that accept these tables) so that I can warn the FLC community.  Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:19, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
 * As I said; whatever makes sense for the particular article. It's not uncommon to compare wins by nationality in competitions, so there is nothing wrong with doing it per se. But I don't see the call for it in a poll of British sports personalities, unless you're wanting to make a point about the spread of the award within the UK. Otherwise it makes as much sense as highlighting the gender of the winner (a distinction that could at least be cited as of note, as the lack of a female nominee was specifically raised this year).
 * I also don't believe that just because no-one has changed an article before is a consensus not to change it. On that basis you'd never edit anything.  But if anyone has a particular problem with my change, on the two particular articles I changed, they are free to revert and we can discuss what is right for these particular articles.  -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 22:24, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Vertigo
i wonder why you deleted the 900 lombard address?!? here = you are typically the kind of user who does not understand what a ref is 84.226.163.162 (talk) 21:39, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * What ref? I suggest you read how to cite, and also what is original research and trivia.   -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 23:38, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * i think you're one of the most stupid users i've ever encountered over here 84.227.40.153 (talk) 08:15, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Please address the issues, rather than insulting other editors. Why isn't this content trivia?  Why isn't it original research?  It certainly appears to be detail of interest only to very few, and there is no source for it, so it isn't verifiable.  Where did this information come from?  If it's your own, then you need to read policy on original research.  -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 12:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Chris Moyles
Edit war heating up nicely at Chris Moyles it seems. I think the 'award' lacks merit but it does exist, does have a wiki and he did win in 2006 as recorded on the page and reported in the MSM. What to do? --82.41.22.244 (talk) 09:22, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Your recent editing history at Chris Moyles shows that you are in danger of breaking the three-revert rule, or that you may have already broken it. An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Breaking the three-revert rule often leads to a block.

If you wish to avoid being blocked, instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to discuss the changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. You may still be blocked for edit warring even if you do not exceed the technical limit of the three-revert rule if your behavior indicates that you intend to continue to revert repeatedly.Note that WP:BLP prohibits the addition of such disputed, contentious content without consensus support, and that the recent article history shows three editors removing it, with only you and an IP (whose description of the removal as "vandalism" demonstrates a lack of good faith) reinstating it. The burden of proof/persuasion rests on those szeeking to retain such content, and reinstating it without meeting that burden is edit warring subject to blocking to prevent recurrence. Demanding explanations on my talk page rather than bothering to review relevant discussions won't excuse your violations. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 17:21, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
 * sigh* Another editor who forcing an edit on a page, so what they're doing is not edit warring, it's what everyone else is doing. -- Escape Orbit (Talk) 17:35, 17 December 2011 (UTC)


 * this is getting out of hand. We have established a 2:1 consensus that the (cited, relevant) info should stay in but Wolfowitz continues to 3RR and vandalise the page. The first editor that removed it did not supply an edit summary and has not returned. The second editor complained that the cite didn't fit (correctly) and after the cite was corrected, has also not returned. Consensus thus established 2:1. How can we stop this vandalism? --82.41.22.244 (talk) 17:04, 18 December 2011 (UTC)


 * He's 3RR but the page is protected now. This behaviour is very poor and, looking at the vandal's talk page, I see that this is a long-standing problem. What next? Can we get the person blocked for vandalism/3RR? --82.41.22.244 (talk) 21:16, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi, it's 82.41 here. The page protection comes off tomorrow and then one of us needs to revert the vandalism (I saw the other IP trying (and failing dismally) to make an argument on the Moyles talk page - quite funny) and then take it from there. This Wolfowitz person is not following procedure at all... --94.116.0.0 (talk) 14:43, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * good work. I wonder if that will escape the attentions of our mutual friend? --82.41.22.244 (talk) 10:48, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I guess not. Action needs to be taken to prevent this continued vandalism. --82.41.22.244 (talk) 00:39, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Constant vandalism on numerous pages now... --82.41.22.244 (talk) 00:57, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Hullaballoo Wolfowitz editing against policy and consensus at Olivier Martinez. Also personal attacks and fabrications in edit summary. Asked twice to take it to talk, although consensus is against him once again. --82.41.22.244 (talk) 09:22, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Decrepit car
Yes, I think you've got a point. Actually Decrepit car was a content fork of Jalopy by someone who didn't seem to like its having an American title. He/She had a point, a common term would be better, but I guess since decrepit car isn't really a term but simply a description, jalopy is better. See the discussion on talk:jalopy. J IM ptalk·cont 03:17, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Many thanks
For reverting the vandalism of my userpage. Best of the Season to you. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 00:10, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Sunshine's Generation
As far as I know and pretty sure this is no such group in the Kpop world. Also when I google this Kpop group I can't find anything.--Lpmfx (talk) 15:35, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I was giving it the benefit of the doubt, as it doesn't read like a hoax. But obviously without cites it's impossible to say.  But you'll know more about Kpop than I.  If you think it may be hoax you could add the  tag to the top of it.  Or if you are absolutely sure, nominate it for deletion with  .  -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 17:19, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the suggestion since normally i only do edits, so don't know how deletion works. PS:At first I was thinking this was new group. But since that person edit the group to S.M. Entertainment one of kpop label/agency i familiar with by looking at their debut year looks off, so after googling around i'm pretty sure there is no such group. --Lpmfx (talk) 19:45, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Playerhistory links
Hello. Just to let you know that I mentioned your removal of the recently-added links to the playerhistory site in this discussion at Conflict of interest/Noticeboard. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:20, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

CSD tagging
Hi there. I removed the CSD tag which you placed in Everyone dies in utah because you placed it just a minute or two after the article was created. The speedy deletion guidelines suggest we should give article authors a little time to complete the content before tagging them. Go back to it in 15 minutes or so, and if the article is still inadequate, then re-add the tag.

Hope this is all cool with you. Regards Basa lisk  inspect damage⁄berate 22:30, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I actually had a quick google to see what notability I could find about the band, it didn't look promising. But I'm fine with waiting and seeing. -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 22:32, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Doesn't matter what source says. Wikipedia reports it neutrally.)
Now your making me roll over and laugh with that statement if I got pound for hundreds of articles I either edit or have seen on wikipedia I would a be a very rich man, that simply is not happening (with other editors). We must be living in two different alternate universes. --Navops47 (talk) 18:26, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Magic carpet lifts
Thanks for your quick response about not using Wikipedia for marketing purposes. I do appreciate your diligence at keeping the integrity of Wikipedia. My updates were to correctly site Magic Carpet® as a registered trademark name in regards to conveyor lifts. The images that were shown were incorrectly using the registered trademark name to describe lifts that were not manufactured by Magic Carpet Lifts. Please help me understand how to update this information in such a way that it correctly reflects the registered trademark and abides by Wikipedia's rules. I think images that show the conveyor lift would be very helpful to the viewer. Thanks in advance for your help.

9/11
Why was "Wikipedia disallows citing Youtube videos and this edit will be rolled back soon by a bot or an editor who doesn't want this information to be viewed on Wikipedia. If you want citation, then go to Youtube video "9/11: "Not a commercial airliner"--FOX employee". The initial talking by a woman between time 0:01 and 0:05 is one source to cite this article's claims and information." rolled back? Gauzeandchess (talk) 16:13, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I removed it from 911: In Plane Site for three reasons;
 * As you said yourself; "Wikipedia disallows citing Youtube videos". Youtube videos uploaded by random people are a million miles from a reliable source.
 * Interpretation of what the woman meant by what she said, and whether the woman herself is in a position to reach a notable conclusion on it, is original research.
 * Discussion of Wikipedia policy does not occur on the articles themselves. That's what the talk pages are for.  If you are going to add discussion predicting that it will be removed from the article, do not be surprised when it is removed from the article.
 * However, one of the reasons was not as you claim; "a bot or an editor who doesn't want this information to be viewed on Wikipedia". What I want is irrelevant.  The "information" was violating policy and guidelines. -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 18:28, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Toronto-Montreal rivalry
For the record, my part in "creating" the article was simply redirecting the page to the existing Canadiens-Maple Leafs rivalry page, and I have reverted the page to that version. Someone else restored the previous deleted content. J. Myrle Fuller (talk) 21:40, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Peter Phelps
I think that Peter Phelps' book "Sex Without Madonna. Memories Of A Hired Gun in Tinseltown", Peter Phelps's official page www.peterphelps.com.au and Susan Mitchell's book about Peter Phelps' sister "Kerryn & Jackie: the shared life of Kerryn Phelps and Jackie Stricker" are very good sources.
 * So why not add them to the article? -- Escape Orbit (Talk) 17:04, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

St. Patrick's Day
On what basis are you deleting the orange section on St. Patrick's Day? That was deleted three years ago, but does not appear to have been discussed in depth and, it appears, should not have been deleted. It is pertinent and well sourced information.--YHoshua (talk) 21:58, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Reply on the talk page. YHoshua appears to have forgotten or overlooked why this has been removed twice before in previous years. -- Escape Orbit (Talk) 22:06, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Re: Emmerdale
Hey, I just had a very quick look and cannot believe I missed those improvements - I presumed from your edit summaries that you were just removing Shreemurphy's OR edits, but obviously you did further work to improve. Sorry about that. Rain  the 1  17:59, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Sorry
I thought you were someone else undoing something else I did on those pages. My mistake --TheShadowCrow (talk) 23:55, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Editing Media ethics but error from the admins.
Hello Escape Orbit

Im trying to editing one section called Media ethics. Im from Macedonia and my lagnuage in the static im writing is macedonian language. This static i'm writing is my project from the University i'm stydying and i need to translate this page in order to get some extra points to pass an exam.So what i'm trying to say is that i don't want do make any changes on the English site of Wikipedia, but on the macedonian version. In the mail you told me to change my language (to do all the changes in the Macedonian site od WIKI) but i cannot find where is that option neither the macedonian language. I will be gratefull to you if you help me to find what i'm looking for.

Thanks

Ivan Trajkov. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ivantrajkov (talk • contribs) 18:40, 25 February 2012 (UTC)