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September 2023 at Women In Red
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Administrators' newsletter – September 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2023).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Pppery · Theleekycauldron
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Dwheeler · G.A.S · Royalbroil · Ssd



CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Bradv

Oversighter changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Bradv

Guideline and policy news
 * Following an RfC, TFAs will be automatically semi-protected the day before it is on the main page and through the day after.
 * A discussion at WP:VPP about revision deletion and oversight for dead names found that [s]ysops can choose to use revdel if, in their view, it's the right tool for this situation, and they need not default to oversight. But oversight could well be right where there's a particularly high risk to the person. Use your judgment.

Technical news
 * Special:Contributions now shows the user's local edit count and the account's creation date.

Arbitration
 * The SmallCat dispute case has closed. As part of the final decision, editors participating in XfD have been reminded to be careful about forming local consensus which may or may not reflect the broader community consensus. Regular closers of XfD forums were also encouraged to note when broader community discussion, or changes to policies and guidelines, would be helpful.

Miscellaneous
 * Tech tip: The "Browse history interactively" banner shown at the top of Special:Diff can be used to easily look through a history, assemble composite diffs, or find out what archive something wound up in.

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Books & Bytes – Issue 58
The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes

Issue 58, July – August 2023 
 * New partners - De Standaard and Duncker & Humblot
 * Tech tip: Filters
 * Wikimania presentation

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About Muhammad Zinedine Alam Ganjar
Hi, i wish to u to restore Muhammad Zinedine Alam Ganjar and move it to draft, atleast it can be useful enough if he is notable in the future instead of deleting it Asphonixm (talk) 14:28, 14 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Also, he was notable enough, he work as a politician for PDIP Asphonixm (talk) 14:28, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello -- I've reviewed the article and found no claim to notability; merely being related to notable people or working on their campaign team is not sufficient, as notability is not inherited. Politicians need to be elected to national-level bodies to be notable, which does not appear to be the case here. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 15:02, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

September 2023
Hello. Please do not make personal attacks like you did |at my talk page and try to remember the importance of civility. My edits were made in good faith, and mistakes happen when learning. Hope your thumb's doing okay. -- NotC hariza rd 🗨 04:08, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello -- Just for reference, an administrator informing you that you have made significant errors and should avoid doing something again until you have the competence to do it correctly is not a personal attack. Nevertheless I am sorry I let my annoyance at a situation which is not your fault make my communication overly brusque. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 16:07, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Women in Red October 2023
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Cleanup of erroneous redirects under a title with implausible zero-width joiner
Hi Espresso Addict,

I'm current renaming and tagging redirects with implausible zero-width joiner in their title. I see you declined one of my G2 nomination Hyperbolic ‍secant, which can be compared with Hyperbolic secant to find "%E2%80%8D" in its url-encoded title. However, I tagged it associated with other test redirects created by which are clarified in the comment of their creation edits and have been deleted per G7 by Extraordinary Writ, including Other‍ (philosophy) and Polar ‍bear. I hope you reconsider its deletion under G6, as well as ק‍.

Thanks, NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 05:14, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, done under G6. I did wonder why Polar bear & Other (philosophy) were also there. Thanks for the note. Espresso Addict (talk) 05:24, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2023).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Hey man im josh
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Alex Bakharev · CorbieVreccan · Cyphoidbomb · Davodd · Hog Farm · JamesR · KnightLago · Mark Ironie · Nosebagbear (deceased) · Rschen7754 · Tamzin · TonyBallioni



CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg DatGuy
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Ferret · RickinBaltimore
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg TonyBallioni · Worm That Turned

Oversighter changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg RickinBaltimore
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg TonyBallioni · Worm That Turned

Guideline and policy news
 * An RfC is open regarding amending the paid-contribution disclosure policy to add the following text: Any administrator soliciting clients for paid Wikipedia-related consulting or advising services not covered by other paid-contribution rules must disclose all clients on their userpage.

Technical news
 * Administrators can now choose to add the user's user page to their watchlist when changing the usergroups for a user. This works both via Special:UserRights and via the API.

Arbitration
 * Remedy 9 ("MarioProtIV topic ban") of the WikiProject Tropical Cyclones case has been rescinded.

Miscellaneous
 * The 2023 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process has concluded with the appointment of one new CheckUser.
 * Self-nominations for the electoral commission for the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections opens on 2 October and closes on 8 October.

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Draft:Slice House by Tony Gemignani deletion
Hello. I noticed that you deleted Draft:Slice House by Tony Gemignani [] and would request that you reinstate the page please. The page was never attempted to be published as the page was still in draft form and not yet completed for publication. Please advise. Thank you so much. (Please note that the page for Marco's Pizza https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco%27s_Pizza was the guideline that was used to begin the drafting of the Slice House by Tony Gemignani page.) Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.38.190.46 (talk) 15:34, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello IP editor. Draft:Slice House by Tony Gemignani was deleted for being so promotional that it would be better to start from scratch than try to improve it. I've taken another look and am not convinced to change my mind. Rather than basing it on an existing article, you should read the guidelines for companies and try to identify at least three reliable sources such as books, magazines or (preferably national) newspapers that are independent of the subject and that cover it in depth (not just passing mentions) and make a first draft of a new article wholly based on what they say, rather than what the company says about itself. Hope this is helpful. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 21:33, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Question about draftification when draft also exists
Hi - I've come across situations like at Harsh Katara a couple times now where the article is clearly not mainspace-ready in its current form, but a draft also exists with an identical name (Draft:Harsh Katara in this case). I would certainly draftify articles like these when a draft does not exist, but I'm not sure what the most correct thing to do is in these cases. Any advice would be appreciated! (Apologies for the bad BLPPROD, forgot that any sources prevent the tag from being placed.) Tollens (talk) 04:00, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi -- Yes, I found that out when I tried to do the move myself! Sorry! I somehow missed the note in the edit history. If the two versions were originally identical then I think you can safely (ordinary) prod the later copy, linking the draft. If not, then move this to draft as well under a title with a number and notify the creator to amalgamate the two and submit just one. Hope that makes sense? Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 04:13, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * That makes sense to me, thanks! Tollens (talk) 04:22, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Daria Lodikova
Hello, Espresso Addict,

So, being #366 in the tennis world is considered significant? I thought the bar was higher than that on Wikipedia. Just checking. Liz Read! Talk! 06:55, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi -- It's certainly a claim of significance, imo sufficient to pass the low threshold of A7, which is of course lower than the notability standards; as the rubric states: "The criterion does not apply to any article that makes any credible claim of significance or importance even if the claim is not supported by a reliable source or does not qualify on Wikipedia's notability guidelines." Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 07:03, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Deletion of Draft:Operation Reconquista
I see you deleted the draft I was writing that being the one about Operation Reconquista, the reason being G11, Unambiguous advertising or Promotion. Could you please explain what in particular caused it to be categorized as such, so I know to avoid that in the future? Georgewashingtonshorse (talk) 19:08, 20 October 2023 (UTC)


 * All of the citations for the organization's actual existence and notability were just direct links back to the organization and its founder, with the only other sources being used to prove a pair of rather tentative and very partisan claims, all of which was in addition to the actual writing style suggesting the point-of-view of a member or promoter far more than that of an objective encyclopedia. For the future please read through What Wikipedia is not and take note of the requirements around responsibly disclosing a conflict of intrest. Thank you. Orchastrattor (talk) 21:13, 20 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello -- Draft:Operation Reconquista appears to be written by someone who is intimately associated with the body. If this is not the case, the way that you can avoid that appearance is to find several reliable independent sources, such as newspapers, magazines or books, that talk about the body in depth, and write a neutral draft based purely on what they say about it.  You should also note what  writes above about conflict of interest. Hope this helps, Espresso Addict (talk) 07:52, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Georgewashingtonshorse (talk) 19:07, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Georgewashingtonshorse (talk) 19:07, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Delete - TECH Technological University
Hello, I saw that you have reverted a change made to request the deletion of an article with sponsored content. I have researched and the first article that was created about this "university" was in Spanish. It had to be removed due to its content. If you review the articles in other languages you can see that the content is literally the same, with phrases plagiarized from their website. In addition, the sources link to sponsored posts in local media. Just do a quick search on Google and you will see several news items that are exactly the same but in different media. Wikipedia is not an advertising space. DianaGarciax (talk) 16:07, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello -- (Re TECH Technological University) Once an article has had a speedy request declined, another administrator is not generally permittted to overturn that decision. Higher education institutes are usually presumed to be notable; if you think this institute is an exception, then I suggest you argue your case at WP:Articles for deletion. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 16:15, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Women in Red - November 2023
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Draft:Sheikh Rehan Shahid
Mind salting the page? Trade (talk) 23:48, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Sure. I hadn't noticed it had been deleted twice before. Doubt it will help, unfortunately; it will just pop up at a variant title. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 23:56, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Always precious
Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:19, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you, ! Your work giving out these awards is definitely precious! Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 20:03, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

Question
Hey, I saw this comment and I was a bit confused, so I figured best to ask. I had a look at Deletion policy and the section on speedy deletions says "Administrators can delete such pages on sight". Is that an accurate reflection of our norms when it comes to an untagged page that would be eligible to be deleted under a CSD criteria? If not, perhaps we should change it. Thanks. 0x Deadbeef →∞ (talk to me) 11:48, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Hey -- Welcome to the admin corps! I looked at that too -- I'm sure it used not to say that! It certainly is the norm amongst those admins I know who work in the deletion area to tag so as to get two pairs of eyes on everything; I often decline speedies from other admins, and have had at least one declined myself. There are circumstances when it is the best course to delete untagged pages -- usually unambiguous attack pages, where it is important to get the page out of public view immediately. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 20:00, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Got it, thanks! 0x Deadbeef →∞ (talk to me) 23:53, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

[sandbox:iceskater79]
Hello, I am new here but it looks like you removed my sandbox page. I was editing that. Can you explain why? Iceskater79 (talk) 18:44, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Re User:Iceskater79/sandbox; answered on creator's talk page. Espresso Addict (talk) 19:50, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Oluebube A. Chukwu
Hi, Trust you are well.

I noticed my article was moved from user:jedirage/sandbox to Draft:Oluebube A. Chukwu then deleted. Oluebube A. Chukwu is a Nigerian politician, scholar, philanthropist and business owner whom I believe is notable enough to be written about and is worth reading about as the current Senior Special Assistant on Due Process to the Abia State governor Dr. Alex Otti in Nigeria.

I followed all the Wiki rules in editing and properly linked/cited external sources for reference. I was not given a chance to edit as my article was deleted within a few hours of informing me it was declined and I do not even have a draft of the article.

Please can you restore my article as a draft so I can edit it to stop sounding like an advertisement/promotion (as it is not).

Thanks immensely. Jedirage (talk) 10:24, 31 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Answered on creator's talk page. Espresso Addict (talk) 19:37, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Consulting
On your consulting disclaimer (or more like "un-disclaimer"), I suspect that you are correct that it will probably have the effect of increasing rather than decreasing suspicion. Have you been the subject of claims that you do paid WP-related consulting work? If not, I'm skeptical that it will be helpful. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  09:45, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for responding, . No, not personally; I was a bit surprised at the level of antagonism at the thread on Village Pump (and the action taken and reversed towards Stephen), and thought perhaps all admins should be encouraged to make some sort of disclaimer, but more and more I'm thinking it just looks like I'm protesting too much, when actually I really haven't ever had a penny out of anyone. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 22:27, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – November 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2023).



Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg 0xDeadbeef
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Tamzin
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Dennis Brown

Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Pppery
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Ragesoss · TheresNoTime

Guideline and policy news

Technical news
 * The WMF is working on making it possible for administrators to edit MediaWiki configuration directly. This is similar to previous work on Special:EditGrowthConfig. A technical RfC is running until November 08, where you can provide feedback.
 * There is a proposed plan for re-enabling the Graph Extension. Feedback on this proposal is requested.

Arbitration
 * Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 12 November 2023 until 21 November 2023 to stand in the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections.
 * , and  have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2023 Arbitration Committee Elections.  is the reserve commissioner.
 * Following a motion, the contentious topic designation of Prem Rawat has been struck. Actions previously taken using this contentious topic designation are still in force.
 * Following several motions, multiple topic areas are no longer designated as a contentious topic. These contentious topic designations were from the Editor conduct in e-cigs articles, Liancourt Rocks, Longevity, Medicine, September 11 conspiracy theories, and Shakespeare authorship question cases.
 * Following a motion, remedies 3.1 (All related articles under 1RR whenever the dispute over naming is concerned), 6 (Stalemate resolution) and 30 (Administrative supervision) of the Macedonia 2 case have been rescinded.
 * Following a motion, remedy 6 (One-revert rule) of the The Troubles case has been amended.
 * An arbitration case named Industrial agriculture has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case close 8 November.

Miscellaneous
 * The Articles for Creation backlog drive is happening in November 2023, with 700+ drafts pending reviews for in the last 4 months or so. In addition to the AfC participants, all administrators and New Page Patrollers can conduct reviews using the helper script, Yet Another AFC Helper Script, which can be enabled in the Gadgets settings. Sign up here to participate!

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