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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Natalie Merchant Ophelia.jpg
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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Me and Bobby McGee - Roger Miller.jpg
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Fair use rationale for Image:Watchtower.org 2008-01-03.PNG
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AfD nomination of Jw.org
An editor has nominated Jw.org, an article on which you have worked or that you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ).

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 * I nominated it you dumb bot.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 20:34, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Cowboy_junkies_200_More_Miles_-_Live_Performances_1985-1994.jpg
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Misplaced vandalism warning
re: Your warning here - you actually reverted an article to Teapotgeorge's version (he had recently reverted vandalism too). Could you remove the warning please? DuncanHill (talk) 17:24, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure. apologies!--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 17:53, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Many thanks, best wishes, DuncanHill (talk) 20:56, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Citing references
The changes you made to the clean-up of the references and notes sections of the Erotic lactation article are puzzling me. You seem to have reverted to a redundant structure of both notes and footnotes, while including a separate references section which include unattributed references to other references and notes.

Also, the reference to the article from the Times is again referenced twice, and the spelling errors have been overlooked.

I'd be grateful if you could explain or fix these perplexing edits. Thanks. Redblueball (talk) 20:53, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:JW.org screenshot 2008-01-03.JPG)
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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Sybil DVD.jpg
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User:Stompernetsmarts
I was under the impression that blatant advertising in user space, by an account that was named after the company was deletable.Mayalld (talk) 15:03, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Ashley Lanfranchi
Can I request to see what was inside this article, just to see whether or not it is worth making a new one, with notability issues, etc.Londo06 (talk) 19:31, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Many thanks.Londo06 (talk) 17:15, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Clifford Goldstein
Hi Esprit15d, I'm just letting you know one of your Twinkle edits deleted an entire paragraph by mistake. On another note, I believe Clifford Goldstein is notable by Wikipedia standards (it was speedily deleted). I intend to recreate the article (albeit with better secondary reliable sources), and am informing you both as a courtesy and to show I am not simply trying to spam cruft. Regards, Colin MacLaurin (talk) 01:05, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Creative Loafing home page.png
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Please realize you're using the wrong template for your image. is reserved for screenshots of wikipedia and it does not appear to be suitable for this image. You can review WP:TAG to see what template would be suitable for your image. Retropunk (talk) 04:39, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:Ciuc
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Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 00:25, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Image:Jack_White_on_60_minutes.jpg listed for deletion
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Allophone (Quebec)
Hello. I really appreciate that you helped with that information. But I doubt it's enough to settle the disagreement, so I wonder if you'd agree to put the listing back on WP:3O. I know you're not supposed to ask for a fourth opinion if the third one doesn't go your way, but it doesn't seem like the third opinion went either way here. Joeldl (talk) 23:46, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Wiki age
I noticed your Wiki age and real age user boxes. I am ok with figuring out my birth date, but I am not sure where to look for the exact date my account was created. How can I find out? Thanks! Merci! -- Mathieugp (talk) 17:40, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I guess "first contribution" is close enough to "account creation". -- Mathieugp (talk) 19:11, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Queries about Back To Black
I just saw on your user page that you have worked on the article. I have the following doubts:-


 * The credits section is about every song and not the album. Its long and ugly too. This article is about the album and these credits would suit the song articles. I would suggest something like in Love.Angel.Music.Baby. What say?


 * United World Chart does not certify albums right? It does not give certificates like RIAA and ARIA do. In order to denote the sales it puts that platinum triangle in its chart. I had put that note on the Chart table but it seems someone has again put back that 3×Platinum back there. Indianescence (talk) 04:34, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

BRC
You've been invited. GlassCobra 08:00, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * - TRANSMISSION ENDS -

Question...
Is there any particular reason you're replacing all instances of npov with pov when they both work the same? Collectonian (talk) 16:28, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Alicia Keys (feat. John Mayer) - Lesson Learned.ogg)
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Brett Novak
Hi Esprit15d, I believe Brett Novak is notable by Wikipedia standards (it was speedily deleted). It says in the deletion logs that it was removed because it "was a redirect to an non-existent page", which is incorrect. The information on the page was correct, and is from a notable source.

If this is incorrect, please explain more on this issue. hszerszen (talk) 20:48, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:The forsyte saga.jpg
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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:That's What I Say- John Scofield Plays the Music of Ray Charles.jpg
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Barnstar

 * You are very welcome for the Barnstar. :) Acalamari 20:21, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

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Your help needed
First, thank-you for taking time to comment on the Jung Myung Seok biography article. You involvement is very much appreciated. May I ask you for further assistance? Immediately after you posted your comment an editor named RB972 reverted all of the changes currently under discussion, and as well, he removed the tag indicating that there was a dispute underway. In now way has this dispute been resolved, yet his actions are like a dictator, determining by himself when disputes are resolved. This is not the first time this exact scenario has occurred.

So, currently on the article all of the blog sites that you agreed are unreliable sources have been re-included into the article. In my opion this article has been co-opted by agents seeking to defame the person in question through the manipulation of his biography on Wikipedia. Case in point: notice that one editor of the article goes by the handle of Capt. Porridge. His edits are consistently negative and his Talk edits are accusatory and intimidating to other editors as well as myself. Most importantly, notice that 15 of the 41 source citations point to his blog and message board website, which exists soley to attack Jung Myung Seok and the religious movement he started. You can find a link to his website here: http://www.jungmyungseok.com/falsemessiah.proboards23.com.

Using the Wikipedia tools such as RfC, I have tried to reason with them and involve outside editors, but they simply ignore mine and everyone else's opinions and judgements, just like they ignored yours. What is the next step? I'm saddened that a Wikipedia biography is being manipulated to promote hate and biased viewpoints. Regardless of who the man is or what he has done or not done, Wikipedia is not the place to proclaim judgements that have not yet been made.

Finally, let me tell you why this article needs urgent attention. Today Jung Myung Seok was extradited to Korea to face trial. At this very moment journalists from all over the world are reading this article believing it contain fact. Please know that I realize the article is going to contain negative things--I'm not trying to reproduce my own bias. I'm just asking for help to make this article neutral, verifiable and accurate--so that it truly does no harm as the policy states.

I'm asking you for help. If you're busy with other things, please can you refer me to others who might help? In any case, thanks for what you've done so far... Uptional (talk) 17:50, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That is hardly neutral. There are two examples of outside editors commenting: Cyrus third opinion about your friend QCA .. The other is on your talk page. Users that pop out of the blue, don't have any edits to any other topic (like you) and take your side don't count. I haven't ignored Espirit15d - I agree that user-generated blogs shouldn't be in the article, but I don't agree those two websites (rickross and RNB) are user-generated blogs. I'll be happy to listen to Espirit15d's argument whichway on that issue. RB972 01:37, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Re Articles for deletion/Sól (band)
The nomination was also for Let there be a massacre, which isn't elegible for speedy A7 as it's an album not a band. I don't know how you want to progress this, though I suggest it can be deleted as WP:SNOW. —  Tivedshambo  (t 15:29, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Winehouse
What the hell? First, don't accuse a user who's been here for three years of vandalising articles. Second, as there have been BLP concerns raised about the section, restoring it might be vandalism in itself. Will (talk) 14:01, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It's okay. By the way, I did a word count - 42% is about her drug and related problems, which is really too much - it should be 15-20% of the article as an absolute most. Will (talk) 14:24, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Amy Winehouse & User talk:Sceptre
Hi. You just placed a warning on User talk:Sceptre accusing him of vandalism. You should know that this is blatantly inappropriate. Good faith edits, even when you disagree with them entirely, are not vandalism. Please don't abuse Twinkle in that way again. Sam Korn (smoddy) 14:02, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm out of line? For calling you on making out-of-order accusations? Please.  Sam Korn (smoddy) 14:16, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Image:Chemmeen.jpg
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Amy Winehouse
As an editor involved in the recent content issue regarding this article, please see the talk page for discussion of the article and the events of the past 24 hours. Wildhartlivie (talk) 22:44, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * So are we to assume that we will be permitted three paragraphs and controversies must be merged with music, regardless of consensus of the participating editors, or editing will either remain or again be locked? And by whom are we supposed to run any improvements before we are permitted to add it back to the article? I really object to having this dictated without the active participation of those who have unilaterally determined what will or won't be allowed, as the notes left today appear to imply. What really bothers me is that no one I have asked seems to either want to take on the issue of this former administrator's authoritarian behavior, or has issue with it. Frankly, I'm ready to walk away from the article. Wildhartlivie (talk) 21:58, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Nick Cooper
I'm curious as to what happened here. Why did you delete and restore this article (while it was nominated as an AfD), express an opinion about its notability in the logs but not express the opinion at the actual AfD? -- Paul Erik (talk) (contribs) 04:30, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Chilakaluripet
I have restored Chilakaluripet article to the last good version. Since you deleted the article last, I wanted to leave you a note. Regards, Ganeshk  ( talk ) 04:28, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Amy, again
I couldn't believe it was put in after I thought I was clear that it didn't belong. While I have no great liking for her, and I don't plan on putting too much more effort into the article (though I will come in and whittle from time to time), I realize that this article needs to walk a line between a tabloid fest and a whitewash. I do appreciate your decision to remove the full protection and take a stand about what was going on. In any case, the guy who wrote the section about the UN story is still pressing for it to be in the article in some way. I need to look at the Kate Moss and Pete Doherty articles to see if it has been slipped in there. Wildhartlivie (talk) 00:08, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi. I hope I'm not abusing a horse, dead or alive! Wildhartlivie (talk) 22:18, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Rascal Flatts
Hey, thanks for adding some info to the Rascal Flatts article. Given how popular these guys are, I'm surprised that nobody's bothered to de-stub their article yet. Do you think that the pages on the individual members should be kept separate? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 13:29, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Year Zero FAC
Thanks so much for taking the time to review the Year Zero article. I've taken care of or addressed all of your concerns, so please take another look and let me know what you think. Thanks again! Drewcifer (talk) 18:53, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks again for taking the time to stick with the Year Zero FAC. For some reason the nomination was closed, even though I thought we were making some headway.  Before it was closed, I responded to your concerns/suggestions one more time, so please take a look at that.  The previous nom can be found here.  Thanks again. Drewcifer (talk) 06:22, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
 * After a little bit of extra work, I've renominated Year Zero (album) at FAC, and I was hoping you could take another look at the article. I've tweaked the Music section a little bit since last you saw it, but hopefully I made my opinion on the section clear in the previous FAC, and hopefully the section is a little bit improved since the FAC was failed.  If you could give me your opinion on the article once again I would greatly appreciate it.  Thanks! Drewcifer (talk) 06:45, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Caught Up (Usher song)
I've addressed all of your concerns about the article. It is up for GAN now? Thanks for the review. --Efe (talk) 09:07, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Rain
Thanks for your review. Andreasegde and I thought no one would review this. It's my first GA! YAY! Andreasegde looked it over. Anyway, thanks again for taking time from your life, or lack thereof (JUST KIDDING!) :), to review this. Feel free to talk to me on my talk page if you have any questions or comments. Have a great day on Wikipedia! Kodster (Talk) 21:02, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the contribution
Esprit15d - thanks for the contribution to the super/unpledged delegates RfC.

We've gotten ourselves into a jam with an "inside-baseball" type disagreement. I appreciate you taking the time to post as a neutral observer. Your contribution is clear and to the point. Thank you for taking the time to help us out.

Regards, --Scantron2 (talk) 14:41, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks so much for the barnstar. I just wish you could run across work I do when I'm not having to be engaged in silly debates about inaneness. I appreciate your kindness! Wildhartlivie (talk) 04:44, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

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Yes, Im aware of that. I regret doing it even though I did it in good faith. Please look in to this matter, ThankyouNitraven (talk) 17:12, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

"Me, Myself and I"
Please visit the article you put on hold since March 27. Thank you. BTW, I lest a few comments on "Rehab"'s PR and am interested with it. --Efe (talk) 11:43, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe I have addressed your concerns. Please re-visit the article's discussion page; I left some comments there. Thank you. --Efe (talk) 03:08, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

A Streetcar Named Desire userboxes
Hi, I have just fixed the links in these two userboxes: User:Esprit15d/Userboxes/ASND-Stanley and User:Esprit15d/Userboxes/ASND-Blanche as they previously linked to A Streetcar Named Desire, which was a disambiguation page. I have now directed them to the article A Streetcar Named Desire (film), on the assumption that they are about the film. Hope this isn't a problem. Thanks, -- Beloved Freak  19:03, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

thanks for info re rfc
Hi, thanks for the tip on rima morrell. I'll follow your advice. Makana Chai (talk) 22:58, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

UKWDA
Come on then, you fountain of knowledge. Why delete the article for UKWDA? What makes you so bloody special? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leighbe (talk • contribs) 22:57, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

John Mayer
Reply on my talk page, in case you aren't watching it. Loren.wilton (talk) 04:00, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

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Beyoncé Knowles
Thank you for the copy editing. YOu can post comments on the article's PR. --Efe (talk) 01:40, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * BTW, I was surprise to see the article on GAN. --Efe (talk) 11:54, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

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Ebonics is racism?
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Richard Arthur Norton
Re. your comment "RAN, haven't we discussed this before?" here, indeed you have. This editing practice of RAN's has been discussed, and complained about, by myself and many other editors ad nauseum, and still he persists. For the ongoing discussions I'm involved in, see Talk:G. David Schine and Talk:William Remington in addition to Elizabeth Bentley, where you commented. See Wikipedia talk:Citing sources/Archive 19 for a discussion where nine editors argued with RAN against his practice. I even brought a RfAr on the issue, and although it was accepted, it appears the ArbCom isn't going to take any action on this particular issue; see Requests for arbitration/Footnoted quotes/Proposed decision.

Anyway, thanks very much for your comment. RedSpruce (talk) 19:14, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


 * P.S.: It appears RAN doesn't consider your opinion valid. RedSpruce (talk) 20:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


 * In Elizabeth Bentley and William Remington, User:Alansohn has joined in the discussion and in tag-team revert warring in concert with RAN. He did the same thing with G. David Schine some time ago. This is a common tactic for these two, as I showed in RfArb evidence here. I'm hoping--deeply, earnestly hoping--that you'll take some action in this issue. RedSpruce (talk) 17:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You may want to take a look at Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents for a rather different take on this problem. Any assistance in dealing with the abuse created by User:RedSpruce will be greatly appreciated. Alansohn (talk) 18:09, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Hovhaness/discrimination
Just to be sure I understand our policies.

I would have thought that if (say) a print biography of Hovhaness, or an interview published in the Boston Globe, quoted Hovhaness as saying "My family left Somerville because of thus-and-such," then


 * You could not cite this as a reference supporting "Hovhaness' family left Somerville because of thus-and-such," but


 * You could cite it as a reference supporting "Hovhaness said that his family left Somerville because of thus-and-such."

And if the information was only second-hand... say an interview with Hovhaness' neighbor had been published in a reliable source... then


 * you could not say "Hovhaness said that his family left Somerville because of thus-and-such," but
 * you could say "Hovhaness' neighbor reported him as saying that his family left Somerville because of thus-and-such."

That is, we can have "facts about opinions."

The problem as I see it is that Berkofsky's conversation with Hovhaness' neighbor has not "published" at all, except perhaps on somebody's personal Tripod web page... so there's no reliable source even for this as a "fact about opinions." Dpbsmith (talk) 23:05, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I thought your comment on the talk page could be interpreted to mean that there was simply no possible way to include Hovhaness' opinion at all.


 * However, it's probably not worthwhile discussing this on the Talk page, my perception at the moment is that it doesn't really matter, as I don't think Martin Berkofsky understands our policies and I don't think he has any appropriate references to point to, so I'm afraid it's likely to be frustrating for him.


 * My feeling is that a brief mention of Hovhaness' family moving because they felt Armenians were being discriminated against, really is entirely appropriate if it's brief (in proportion to its importance) and if it's sourced... and, of course, properly attributed (X says Y says Z...) Dpbsmith (talk) 13:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

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Lizzie Borden
Hi. Would it be possible for you to stop over to this article, read the current discussion on the talk page and weigh in, please? I have reservations about getting too far into this with this editor as I presented evidence at the ArbCom case regarding him and know this is going to be a problem. Thanks! Wildhartlivie (talk) 03:30, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, it's a problem. And I don't think it's going to be easily solved. He's started putting in his unnecessary quotes, he's putting in not only article titles in the sources from the New York Times, but the old-style subtitles as well and argued that it's my aesthetics and preference, not a policy, he's linked to someone's wordpress blog, he's managed to change her name (from her legal name to also including an affectation she adapted the last few years of her life - which I clearly stated should not be in the lead sentence of the article, but maybe in the section after her rift with her sister), and I'm just through. He never discusses issues at hand, but instead, talks around them and ignores the real issues. A good example is when I asked him why it was necessary to include the subtitles for one references and ignore them for others. He refused to respond although I asked him twice, and instead, put subtitles in another reference and said it was "per talk page." That's the second time tonight he's used deception in his edit summaries. The first was when I removed the article title from the quote parameter and he returned it as a title saying that he'd "restore full title to NYT article." I called him on the deceptiveness twice, and he refused to respond. I kept pounding in that he was putting in subtitles, and yes, I may have been a bit rude the second time, but it was after I had said "We thank (him) for the birthdate of Andrew Borden" and he replied "There is really no need for the sarcastic "We thank ...", when it is you speaking." How nice is that? There is no working with this man and no attempts at collaboration. He charges in, adds what he wants - which is usually just copious references that don't always source what it is supposed to - and refuses to discuss objections to what he's doing. When he finally grasped that one of the links to the New York Times required payment to access it at all, he then proclaimed that everything that was needed was covered in the title and no one needed to read it. There was a link to a page on a Library of Congress project which was a newspaper from the first part of the 20th century. The Library of Congress page allowed one to zoom in and enlarge the paper in order to read the copy easily. He saved an image of it and uploaded it to Wikipedia and replaced my citation to the LoC page with a link to the image he uploaded. How is that an improvement? I can barely read his image copy, it is blurry and the print is quite small. I thought I was finished with this man, but he showed up at this article I had worked on today after I came across an article he'd added copious quotes to and removed the quotes. He put the same thing in the article in April and I removed it then, with the same rationale that I gave today, when he returned it. It feels a bit like wiki-stalking. *sigh*. But anyway, I feel better now, although I don't know what to do about this. Maybe quit, I don't know!! Wildhartlivie (talk) 07:48, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I've opened a request for comments on this article at Talk:Lizzie Borden, if you would be so kind as to stop in and comment. Thanks! Wildhartlivie (talk) 09:05, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Recreated article
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