User talk:Est. 2021/Archive/2023

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Puzzling claims about an alleged Hurrian deity in the Apulu article
Where did you stumble upon a Hurrian weather god named Aplu - what Assyriological or Hittitological studies? I wrote... probably 90% of the articles on Hurrian deities on wikipedia, as well as the Hurrian religion and Hurrian pantheon ones, which are rigorously sourced and a product of thorough survey of relevant literature, and virtually no authority in the field mentions a Hurrian deity named Aplu. The information gets persistently added to random articles on wikipedia, with the only sources always being completely unrelated (Iliad, a dictionary entry of a completely unrelated epithet of Apollo). As far as I am concerned, this is pure invention of a past wikipedia editor. HaniwaEnthusiast (talk) 20:04, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
 * The section about the Hurrian god is not a research of mine, I took those infos and notes from Aplu (deity) - that I just merged into Apulu - and List of thunder gods. I don't know who wrote those pages tho, feel free to expand the Hurrian section. Check Talk:Apulu too! Regards, Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 20:49, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Please read the message again, there is no Hurrian information to include. You copied information which was previously deleted multiple times, and which was deemed unfit to keep in 2021 (see the talk page and the other talk page linked on it too), and is not supported by the sources in the article.
 * then you should fix List of thunder gods and the other pages talking about this mysterious Hurrian god, just like y'all should have deleted Aplu (the page about the Hurrian god) way before this merger. Have fun. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 22:30, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

April 2023
Please do not add or change content, as you did at Political status of Crimea, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you.
 * Nagsb (talk) 07:07, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

I already did, you didn't. If you're here to troll, you're in the wrong place. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 07:12, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
 * As stated on the talk page, I agree to the proposed lead update, but only if the article is rewritten to match the new broader scope, with a specific focus on 'the Crimean problem'. A revision of the article is necessary before any updates are made. --Nagsb (talk) 15:51, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Foibe killings
Hi. Please don't add original research, don't use emotionally charged words and don't use inflammatory language in edit summaries. Much appreciated. --TadejM my talk 18:02, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Don't be ridiculous. I didn't add 'state terrorism' nor 'academic consensus', both statements were previously made by someone else. Inflammatory language in edit summaries? Looks like you missed both «Also if term "exterminated" is used for killings in Rijeka, I will start using extermination for much Italian war crime» and «If exterminated is used here, I will use extermination for much greater number of Slavs killed by Italians, and throughout the Italian war crimes article» by your beloved friend Thhhommmasss. Cheers, Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 13:29, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

June 2023
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 * Hello, Est. 2021,
 * I'm not sure why you are doing this but you shouldn't cut and paste content from long-standing articles and paste it into a new article you just created, turning the older article into a redirect. That's just not fair and it doesn't retain the content attribution from the original article. I have merged two of these efforts and please don't ever do this again. It's a little ridiculous, if you want to change the name of an article move the page but don't pretend like you are responsible for creating an article on a subject that has existed on Wikipedia for 20 years that other editors have contributed to. It's misleading and I believe it violates Wikipedia rules on attribution. If you want to be an article creator, then think up new articles to write about, don't hijack existing articles. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 07:07, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I copy-pasted and expanded content written by me. There's no attribution issue. These pages were less than stubs before my contribution, and I'm already reading new academic studies to furtherly expand them. By the way, I didn't know we could merge page histories, WP:REPAIR looks like a useful tool. I think I'm going to use it in future. Thanks, Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 07:13, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Sabine deities
Hi Est. 2021! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor&#32;at Minerva that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia—it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information. Thank you. NebY (talk) 11:22, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * You're here removing well sourced statements. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 11:25, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * You marked this initial edit as minor, and then your reinstatement as minor too. See Help:Minor edit: Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if the edit concerns a single word, and it is improper to mark such an edit as minor. You did not provide a source in the article; linking to another Wikipedia article is not sufficient, and Varro is a primary source; see WP:SCHOLARSHIP. But most of all, do read WP:LEAD; in a nutshell, The lead should identify the topic and summarize the body of the article with appropriate weight. Your insertions are not a summary of the article bodies and give undue weight. Also, when your changes to an article are reverted, don't simply reinstate them; open a discussion on an article or project talk page and achieve consensus there - see WP:BRD. NebY (talk) 11:38, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Saturn (mythology)‎‎. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
 * No. As I already said, you're here removing well sourced statements. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 11:41, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Post scriptum: I also reported this nonsense at the Administrators' noticeboard. Have a good day. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 11:57, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Category:Regional WikiProject user templates
The Category:Regional WikiProject user templates comprises userbox templates that link to individual regional WikiProjects such as Template:User WikiProject Italy. Userbox templates relevant to a particular regional WikiProject should be included in the relevant WikiProject category such as Category:WikiProject Italy templates. Yours aye, Buaidh  talk e-mail 15:23, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
 * The recent nominations for split made me question everything about regional templates, but looks like I was correctly categorizing them all along. Thank you for solving my doubt, Est. 2021 (talk · contribs)

Copying within Wikipedia requires attribution
Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you copied or moved text from Culture of Italy into Patronal festival. While you are welcome to re-use Wikipedia's content, here or elsewhere, Wikipedia's licensing does require that you provide attribution to the original contributor(s). When copying within Wikipedia, this is supplied at minimum in an edit summary at the page into which you've copied content, disclosing the copying and linking to the copied page, e.g.,. It is good practice, especially if copying is extensive, to also place a properly formatted copied template on the talk pages of the source and destination. Please provide attribution for this duplication if it has not already been supplied by another editor, and if you have copied material between pages before, even if it was a long time ago, you should provide attribution for that also. You can read more about the procedure and the reasons at Copying within Wikipedia. Thank you. — Diannaa (talk) 16:28, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Funny boomerang, because that paragraph at Culture of Italy is the translation of what I wrote years ago on it.wiki – like most of the linked pages, that I had started or contributed to: Feast of Our Lady of the Hens (both on it.wiki and here), Feast of San Gennaro, Feast of Saints Francis and Catherine, Patronal festival, etc. I can't remember if I wrote from my former account or was already named, but I guess that makes no difference. It actually happens very often that I find translations of articles and templates written by me on other wikis without any attribution, for example many articles I wrote for it.wiki from my former account and I later found on the English, Spanish and German versions of Wikipedia, or content that I wrote here and I later found elsewhere without any attribution, like the Vietnamese and Bengali translations of Template:User WP. I even joked about that on the Bengali Wikipedia, because there's nothing I could do against it. Btw I really appreciate that you tried to defend the right and necessary attribution policy, even if mistakenly – you had no mean to know. Thanks for your efforts anyway. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 22:52, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Non-free use of File:Elizabeth Olsen as Wanda Maximoff (quadtych).jpg
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 * You can find the detailed explanation at User talk:DatGuy/Archives/2023/August, as already stated in the edit summary. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 02:49, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

August 2023
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 * The file has been restored, so that template is not needed anymore. Before reverting edits, be sure you understand what's going on. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 18:41, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

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nap-0 userbox?
Hello! I see you speak Neapolitan and make userboxes on request. Any chance you could make a Babel userbox for nap-0? I'm interested in learning the language, but haven't been able to get started yet. (I'd make the userbox myself, but I'm not even sure "Chesta perzona nu ppò parlà napulitano" would be the right text...) Thanks for considering it! -- Photosynthetic430 ❧ 18:31, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * You're welcome here you are, ! I also fixed the translation for the other Neapolitan boxes, and added the – optional, not mandatory – diacritics for silent vowels. Hope it helps! Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 04:18, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! -- Photosynthetic430 ❧ 17:43, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Category:User nap-0 has been nominated for discussion
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Keeping old copies of articles in user space
Hi, I did not understand your edit here:

I already specifically credited that you had used it to revise Seraglio. I also linked to WP:COPYARTICLE which says "Userspace is not a free web host and should not be used to indefinitely host pages that look like articles, old revisions, or deleted content, or your preferred version of disputed content."

As you have apparently finished editing Seraglio, the copy in user space should be blanked or deleted.

The same applies to any other subpages, and I see that you have several (Special:PrefixIndex/User:Est._2021/). Please review these and blank those that are no longer in use. – Fayenatic  L ondon 14:08, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * That's not an exact copy. You can find all my drafts at User:Est. 2021/Draft and automatically check the differences between them and currently published articles. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 15:04, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * It was an exact copy of https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Seraglio&oldid=1126295674 . The only differences between that old revision and your current user draft are the same as the subsequent maintenance edits to the draft, i.e. (cite dictionary to cite book and parameter name |dictionary to |work, and my update to a renamed category).
 * So what's the purpose of keeping your old draft? To allow a one-click review of subsequent changes to the live article? Sorry, but I don't think that purpose is permitted under WP:COPYARTICLE. In any case you can do it much more simply by comparing your last edit of the live article to the current version e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Seraglio&diff=cur&oldid=1120024312 – Fayenatic  L ondon 15:21, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * No, you can clearly see that the IPA spelling has been radically changed whithout any source, so we need to understand what's the correct version before deleting one of them. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 15:25, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Est. 2021, No, you can also clearly see that with the simpler mechanism and link that I suggested. – Fayenatic  L ondon 15:28, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * False. Both your outdated link and the current diff clearly show different spellings. No source available. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 15:33, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Template:User WP
Hello, Est. 2021,

I'm not sure if you are aware but all of the WikiProject categories that use to call editors "members" have now been changed to "participants". I thought I would change the template userbox you created to read "participants" instead of "members" but after changing the words and looking at it in Preview I saw that this userbox is used on 19,000 pages and I didn't save my changes. Since you created it, I thought I'd ask you to make the change so I didn't screw up a commonly used template. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 20:01, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for your kind message, I really appreciate it. Actually, previously made the same change based on the recent CfD, so I thought we had to change the wording and I discussed about this topic at Template talk:User in region, where I was reminded by the excellent  that the recent consensus only concerned categories, and that changing the wording in individual userboxes to say "participant" instead of "member" will require a second, widely advertised RFC, and I agree with that. Personally, since we don't have to, I don't think there's an actual need to change the current wording, also considering that the template already always links the correct pages and categories whether they're named after members or participants. To be fair, I also prefer the current wording for personal taste, but that's obviously irrelevant in a group work, so I'm open to different opinions. Thank you again for asking me! Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 06:57, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
 * My interpretation of the CFD was that it covered only the naming of categories themselves. I think it will take a larger discussion to enforce specific wording within WikiProjects. Other people may have different interpretations of the CFD. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:36, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Changes without consensus
You took part in the discussion at Talk:Republic of Crimea, so you must have known that there were two editors opposing the establishment of the category, and two (including you) in favour. That you still populated that category seems disruptive to me. Rsk6400 (talk) 08:03, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * You're the one removing pages from a category that's not under CfD and then falsely tagging it as empty, just to get it deleted without a formal CfD. That's not how it works. Instead of this chicanery, if you don't like the category then honestly start your CfD. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 08:53, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * The category was created only a few days ago. I just reverted to status quo where that category was added to a page. Reverting to status quo doesn't need consensus, nor does it need a CfD. The change that needs consensus is the establishment of the new category. Rsk6400 (talk) 09:01, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

November 2023
Hi Est. 2021! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of Category:Republic of Crimea several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the edit warring policy disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable.

All editors are expected to discuss content disputes on article talk pages to try to reach consensus. If you are unable to agree&#32;at, please use one of the dispute resolution options to seek input from others. Using this approach instead of reverting can help you avoid getting drawn into an edit war. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 08:07, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Several times? What are you talking about? I just repopulated the category and removed db-catempty as it was not empty anymore. I literally only made one single edit to Category:Republic of Crimea. There was no edit war at all. Now you are reverting my edits and emptying the category without any CfD, it does not make sense. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 08:36, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree with Est. 2021 that they were not edit warring (and I wasn't, either). Rsk6400 (talk) 09:05, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

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