User talk:Estavisti~enwiki/Archive 3

Welcome back
wb --PaxEquilibrium 21:30, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Nonsense
We fixed what you asked about the template. The entity issue is now optional, if the municipality is part of the FBiH then the cantonal name can be added, if it is not, then one leaves it empty and it does not appear on the infobox of the article. There is no need to have the RS infobox template, since country municipality templates are all based on country level. And who give you right in the first place to change??? It was originally Infobox BiH municipality. Now the issues are fixed so the new ones are being implemented. Discussion did occur, Wikiproject BiH, and even you know about it considering that I left you a message.

Look at Vojvodina you guys did not implement a separate template for that. Same scenerio. We should change that template, too. You ignored that statement last time.

Thank you, Vseferović 23:19, 9 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you for replying. Discussion is the only way we can resolve this. My main issue is that the top heading for the RS article states "Municipality in RS (BiH)". This is a sensitive issue for me considering that I am from BiH. The heading needs to be Municipality of Bosnia and Herzegovina in the heading. Then for the informational part we put in the entity and so on... You said that BiH is more divided, without any insult, I would like to mention that Kosovo is a larger ethnic issue. Thanks for replying. Vseferović 23:43, 9 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I like the way the template looks, but I do not see the point of having two different ones showing the same things. I mean we are repeating the same outlines. You stated that there was an issue over the addition of cantons, when it is easily solved by adding an "if template". For example:


 * If the municipality is in the FBiH then the user fills that space in, if it is not then it remains empty. It does not show up on the article page at all if it is left empty


 * Several computer programmers helped with this. Anyways, so many infoboxes use that style. For example airline alliance articles use that. If it is Star Alliance then it may be only a regional member. However, if a company is not Star Alliance, let's say SkyTeam, then that regional area is left empty and does not show up.


 * Thanks, Vseferović 00:04, 10 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, the Cyrrlic can be worked around, two seprate spaces are not need when a user can type br with these around < >. However, who will be changing the RS spelling, while pretty much you and I will be the ones changing it. After the new changes have been implemented, then there will be no need for change, unless it is vandalism. Thanks, Vseferović 00:21, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Regarding this conversation, I have to say that current template is misleading. Municipalities of Bosnia and Herzegovina do not exist - municipalities and other forms of territorial organisation are established by entities. For Republika Srpska, it is Zakon o teritorijalnoj organizaciji i lokalnoj samoupravi Republike Srpske, and there certainly is a corresponding law for the Federation. So, articles on municipalities, corresponding titles in the template etc. should be called "Municipalities of Republika Srpska" and "Municipalities of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina". Nikola 23:07, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Bosanska Kostajnica
Why have you changed the name of ethnic group form Bosniaks to Muslim by nationality? Muslims by nationality are today regonized as Bosniaks (it was written Muslims by nationality - Bosniaks)?  P.S. You have never answered me to question wich I left on Template_talk:Infobox_RS --Kahriman 18:14, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Template:Municipalities of Vojvodina
Erm, re this: I have FF1.5 too, and it works fine for me. What's the exact problem? Duja ► 15:21, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

I liked...
...your old user page. --PaxEquilibrium 18:14, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I can give some links from it, if any specific ones interest you. --Еstavisti 20:54, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I liked both of your old user pages ;) Hopefully both of you can restore them as they reflect positively on the volume of work both of you have contributed! // Laughing Man 21:02, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Both? --Еstavisti 21:03, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I meant your old user page as well as PaxEquilibrium's old user page. :) // Laughing Man 21:07, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Aha, I see now. I don't plan on returning it, although I have it saved. I like the simplicity of this one. --Еstavisti 06:34, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Panorama or Photograph
Hello. I changed that caption from 'Panorama' to 'Photograph' on Republika Srpska because that picture is not actually panoramic (see the article Panorama). Panoramic images are "widescreen" (for lack of a better word). But also, I don't really care if it says panorama or not - I just came across it in my daily reading of Wikipedia :) &mdash; King Ivan   PWN3D! at the disco  08:10, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

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do not act like you own the wikipedia. --Noah30 10:21, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

"The territory of today's Albania was part of the medieval Serbian Empire." Are you serious? This is a fabrication. Serbs have never ruled Tirana, Vlorë, Korcë etc etc. --Noah30 12:38, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

municipalities of Belgrade
Hello estavisti,

Just wanted your input on the following article, particular the Serbia section -- List of top-division football clubs in UEFA countries. This is a list displays the club, as well as the city the club is located. What do you think is the correct way to represent the different municipalities of Belgrade, should we list the municipality here, or should they be listed in Belgrade with the municipality in parenthesis, or should we simply list Belgrade? You can see that right now it is inconsistent (see FK Zemun and and FK Bežanija). Thanks // Laughing Man 23:11, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

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Dani Zoltán
Vidiš baš je dobro što si se setio Zoltana Danija, jer njegov slučaj je baš sušta suprotnost onoga zašta si ga ti namenio.

Zoltan je još za "Titina vakta" postao oficir u Rajlovcu (today BIH) i pravo je čudo kako nije "izrešetan" kroz to famozno Slobino rešeto, no nije to najvažniji segment ove priče. Obavio je za zemlju Srbiju to što je obavio, neki bi rekli profesionalno, vojnički ( svaka čast Slobi što je dopustio i manjinama da ginu za njegovu otadžbinu i to još sa činom !), no nije ni to najvažniji segment ove priče. On je sve svoje potčinjene odlikovao koliko su mu mogućnosti dopuštale, a njega su posle rata sklonili u neki vojni centar i sa 48 godina poslali u penziju, bez ijednog odlikovanja za njegove sopstvene zasluge.

Zamisli tu istu situaciju naprimer u Engleskoj ili u SAD. Oni bi i petla odlikovali da je uradio nešto važno, nešto korisno za njihovu zemlju, a ne jednog od svojih državljana. Ja ne znam pošto sam dovoljno daleko, da li je ikad neko od nepalskih gurki odlikovan za zasluge od strane britanske kraljice, a verujem da jeste.

Da se kojim slučajem rodio kao Zoran Danić, sad bi već bio bar general-major i jedan od pretendenata na najviše vojnokomandne položaje što jedan vojnik može da postigne, postao bi ravan sa nekim Stepama, Mišićima i Putnicima. Omladina bi u njemu videla heroja novog vremena i bio bi vodan od strane obožavalaca i ulizica od jednog do drugog sela kao mečka na lancu, samo da se vidi da "niko nema što Srbin imade".

Ovako je ostao samo jedan mali Mađar koji jeste da je bio svetla tačka u tom neslavnom ratu, ali ko je zapravo nedostojan svih tih odlikovanja i počasti koji jednom pravom Srbinu sleduje po liniji rođenja. Ovako može da sanja svoje kore za pitu i samo da se nada boljem, i da se ne buni mnogo jer će mu poslati inspekcije za vrat, koje će mu s lakoćom dokazati osnove logike, pa će da vidi svoga boga.

On je kao žaba iz bajke koja je poželela da leti i aterirala neslavno na zemlji. Ko mu je kriv što se rodio u Srbiji. Na Balkanu ni gravitacija nije kao što je drugde. Tu je "Pomoz' bog Srbine" jača od te pišljive gravitacije. Njegov slučaj je najeklatantniji primer dvostrukih aršina, koji je veome bolan kad se nama zalomi, ali apsolutno podnošljiv kad ga mi primenjujemo.

Znam, sad će neki koji budu ovo čitali podići obrve i negodovati:" Mi koji smo šampioni demokratije i ponosni vlasnici ničim izazvanog Novog Ustava, to mora da je noćna mora!"... Ne gospodo, slučaj Građanin drugog reda - Dani Zoltán je stvarnost, koji ima počasno mesto u Anti-Hungarian sentimentu, i u svim fobijama i stanjima svesti lepih latinskih naziva, koje su zadesile Srbiju u poslednjih dvestotinjak godina.

Pa, nek' ti je Sretna Nova 2007!--Bendeguz 17:00, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Ne verujem da ti imaš stvarnu sliku stanja iz dalekog Londona, no nije ni bitno. Šta je po tebi neistina-da je penzionisan sa 48, da uopšte nije odlikovan ili to što se bavi izradom kora za pitu? Gostovao navedeni kod Timofejeva na B92 sa Nebojšom Čovićem i Brankicom Stanković pre cca. godinu dana i oni su isto izrazili čuđenje pred tim činjenicama. Ostalo je samo konkluzija, koju svaki bistriji čovek može da izvuče iz tih podataka, i da se zamisli. Da se zamisliš nad tim stvarima uopšte ne moraš biti iskompleksiran ili frustriran.

Tvoje lično mišljenje tu ne vredi ni pišljiva boba, države se vrednuju prema postupcima vladajuće elite, a ne prema mišljenjima pojedinaca. A potezati nekog samo u slučaju nužde, da se dokaže suprotno od nečijeg mišljenja i ne sagledati sveobuhvatnu sliku stvari, je krajnje neodgovorno i kontraproduktivno, kao što se vidi na tvom primeru. Etiketiranje isto.--Bendeguz 18:46, 1 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Al malo Q. Sto Zoltan nije odlikovan je naravno sramota, ali i mnogi Srbi su ucinili razna herojska dela pa nisu bili odlikovani, sto je takodje sramota. Pod Milosevicem Kertes je bio direktor Savezne uprave carina, sto je posebno u ondasnjim prilikama bio veoma znacajan polozaj, i nimalo mu nije smetalo sto je Madjar. Nikola 15:03, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Nisam toliko slep da ne primetim da i u tom govnarskom odnosu postoje gradacije, znači govnarsko-govnarskije-najgovnarskije pa ko šta je zaslužio. Jeli ti veruješ u to što pišeš o loše organizovanoj državi ili samo reda radi. Šta misliš od čega živi ta loše organizovana država? Od ubranog poreza, a tu baš i ne deluju tako dezorganizovano.

Nisam pristalica toga da generalizujemo slučaj Dani Zoltana jer se bojim da nećemo stići nigde. On nije VIP osoba učinio je nešto što je malo kome uspelo, potapšali ga malo po ramenu, znojio se malo pod reflektorima pa se vratio svojim korama ( ili korenima ). Nije tražio dozvolu od kralja da prosi pred crkvom kao onaj nesrećnik u pripoveci Laze Lazarevića.

Uzmimo sad u razmatranje slučaj jedne VIP osobe - slučaj Monike Seleš. Kad je devedeset druge ili treće (još je imala državljanstvo) trebala da bude izabrana za sportistu godine, izabran je neko "ja do nje" uz bilo bi smešno da nije tužno objašnjenje, kako je ona svakako najbolja..., van konkurencije..., pa onda...More marš. Ako je neko najbolji, onda je najbolji i tačka. Šta je ovo ako nije diskriminacija i to na nacionalnoj osnovi. No nikad se ne zna, ti verovatno i za ovo imaš objašnjenje.

Toliko.--Bendeguz 18:14, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Ethnic group
Hi Estavisti,
 * ''04:41, January 1, 2007 Estavisti (Talk | contribs | block) (this looks awful, sorry but keep testing :-)) [rollback]
 * ''05:55, December 31, 2006 David Kernow (Talk | contribs | block) m (formatting)
 * 05:54, December 31, 2006 David Kernow (Talk | contribs | block) (Another attempt to remove columns so to (1) leave less unused space; (2) avoid squeezed/wrapped headings. Tested here. If necessary, -please- fix rather than revert.) [emphasis added]

Unfortunately "this looks awful" isn't very helpful as regards remedying this template's layout. On which page/s, for example, does it look awful to you? In what way/s? (And, per the request highlighted above, did you feel unable to fix it?) Information, please! Regards, David Kernow (talk) 06:33, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

wikiproject
As a member of WikiProject Serbia, you should be aware that the project as well as Portal:Serbia is being considered for deletion. If you have the time, please comment on what you feel should be done with the project and the portal. Thank you. // Laughing Man 01:43, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Note
You've made a 3RR violation. --PaxEquilibrium 20:19, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

3RR vio block
You've neen blocked 24 h for a WP:3RR vio.--CSTAR 21:03, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh man, you cannot be serious. It's obvious that I did not intend to break 3RR. Yeah, I accidentally broke the rules, but what purpose does blocking me for 24h serve? Am I subverting Wikipedia? Come on... --Еstavisti 04:00, 11 January 2007 (UTC)