User talk:Ethicosian

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The Wikipedia tutorial is a good place to start learning about Wikipedia. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my talk page. By the way, you can sign your name on Talk and discussion pages using four tildes, like this: &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126; (the software will replace them with your signature and the date). Again, welcome! Doug Weller talk 10:57, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

As you are editing in this area, you need to read this alert carefully
Doug Weller talk 10:59, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Behavioral expectations
In conjunction with the above, I'd suggest your read WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL. You're editing in a contentious area so it's important to be civil. Doug Weller talk 11:00, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Race (Race and intelligence)
It's arbitrary to claim that cultural anthropologists don't have the credentials to discuss race matters. If race was solely biology, then what would be the biological basis of tagging a native African who would test (genetically) closer to [than the white neighbor of] a native European? If then we are to dismiss genetics and solely rely on physical features, what if the neighbor (except for skin color) has more African features than this African? What remains of the biologist right to claim that his judgment call in deciding race is solely the property of biology? Yaḥyā ‎ (talk) 04:07, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
 * It's not arbitrary at all. It's standard that experts in the relevant field are referenced. Cultural anthropologists simply aren't trained in the relevant issues, eg. genetic variation ratios between taxa. It's really absurd that you would even claim cultural anthropologists should be referenced on questions of biological validity. What do you make of the fact that bio!ogists disagree with cu!rural anthropologists about it? Who do you think is parroting stuff outside their expertise? Is it a neutral question or a politically and emotionally charged question? Any guess what's going on there?


 * Your statement is worded badly. Are you saying there is more genetic distance between African sub groups than between some African sub groups and Europeans? Ethicosian (talk) 06:44, 21 April 2017 (UTC)


 * About your question (second paragraph of your answer), I am not making any such claim! I am merely presenting a hypothetical case where the biologist decision would be outside of his training and would be based on a judgment call.


 * I am not claiming race does not exist, neither that there is no genetic or physiological basis of such a classification. Who am I to question anything here? I am merely saying that it is arbitrary to claim that only a biologist has the credential here. Whom are we to decide who has or does not have the credential, or claim what a race is or isn't? You'd be relying on your own arbitrary constructs of what race is or isn't to include academics who are credible in race matters. Yaḥyā ‎ (talk) 10:53, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

May 2017
What is the reason for my block? It seems like the reason is that Doug Weller wants to push his POV. Ethicosian (talk) 08:26, 13 May 2017 (UTC)