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Reference number 70 in the Turkey article
Hello Etienne, I already added that reference (reference number 70 in the Turkey article) to the last paragraph of the History section related to the Ottoman Empire in the Turkey article. 武士道 (talk) 04:29, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your good faith edits. However, the lead should summarize the rest of the article. The Armenian, Assyrian, and Greek genocides are a notable part of Turkey's history. If you beg to differ, please refer to the talk page of Turkey article. Étienne Dolet (talk) 04:33, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Quba
We made changes to the Guba mass grave article but i noticed on the Quba article it has a paragraph regarding the mass grave and it is pretty ridiculous:

In May 1918, an event similar to the March Days occurred in the Guba, where Dashnak detachment, under the command of Hamazasp Srvantsyan, arrived from Baku following Armenian Bolshevist communist politician Stepan Shahumyan's order. According to the investigative commission formed by the Government of Azerbaijan Democratic Republic, Hamazasp's unit burned and destroyed the city of Quba and killed at least 122 people.[4] In 2007, during the construction of a stadium, builders discovered a mass grave. Azerbaijani studies claim that the human remains found there were local residents of various nationalities, including Jews and Lezgins, who had been massacred in 1918.[5] To date, 600 human remains have been found, including about 50 children and 100 women.[6]

I think we should make changes to the article to make it similar to the Guba mass grave article. All of the sources are azeri: day.az, apa.az, zerkalo.az, etc. What do you think? We can take it to the talk page first and see what others think but i doubt anyone will respond. Ninetoyadome (talk) 03:09, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

I agree, we should make similar changes. I do feel we must defer this topic of conversation over to the talk page of Quba article. Also, the wording of the Guba Genocide Memorial Complex article is worrisome at best. It's not inline with basic NPOV Wikipedia policy. The abuse of the word "Genocide" is strinkingly problematic. Étienne Dolet (talk) 17:00, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I think a good case could be made for merging Guba Genocide Memorial Complex into the Guba mass grave article. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 21:50, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Good point. I am willing to support such a merger. Étienne Dolet (talk) 22:06, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks
Thanks for the barnstar. Hopefully your hook will be released soon. Cheers Victuallers (talk) 21:42, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

DragonTiger23 into socking again
It appears that once a month he tries to sock. Always in a stupid manner. His latest sock is more obvious that any other before [].Alexikoua (talk) 10:05, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
 * There's only one solution: WP:SPI. Étienne Dolet (talk) 19:18, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Khetcho
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WP:RX
Hi, I've sent you an email. Please reply so that I can provide the relevant pages of 'The Graphic - Saturday 07 December 1895', you requested at WP:RX.  NQ    talk  21:03, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I just responded. Thanks! Étienne Dolet (talk) 21:09, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Province of Treviso
Thanks for your review. The issue has been fixed. Please respond on the nomination page.--Skr15081997 (talk) 06:58, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, but before I respond, please let me know how you feel about the ALT hook on the nomination page. Thanks, Étienne Dolet (talk) 07:02, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, can you add a source to the Vandal statement please. Once done, I'll approve it. Étienne Dolet (talk) 07:05, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I have removed the "Vandals" related fact as I could not find a source to support it.--Skr15081997 (talk) 07:52, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I found a source that says Treviso was subjugated to Hun, Ostrogoth, and Lombard control. It's on page 596 of this source. Just use it and well be good to go. Étienne Dolet (talk) 18:00, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for providing the source. I have added the info.--Skr15081997 (talk) 09:38, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Hamidian Massacres
I saw that you posted a request for cleanup on File:Armenian children massacred.jpg, and though it was taken, you ended up reverting to the original. I think I can understand why you preferred the original, but since that would leave your request more or less unfulfilled, I figured I'd prepare an alternate version.

If you like it, feel free to use it. If you still prefer the original, feel free to request deletion for the alt. MjolnirPants  Tell me all about it.  13:00, 22 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you! I actually just replaced it on the Hamidian massacre article. I liked it. It still has that authentic feel to it. Thank you so much! Étienne Dolet (talk) 17:54, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
 * No problem. I also replaced another image on that page with a cleaned up version (not one I did, an already existing one). MjolnirPants   Tell me all about it.  19:20, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for replacing it. You know, that picture always makes me melancholic. Not only is the picture itself sad, but its been through its own degree of misfortunes on Wikipedia. I nominated that picture to FP (Featured_picture_candidates/Refugees_of_Hamidian_massacre) after some good restoration work was done on it. But those who voted made a huge fuss over its quality. Every one had their own excuses, "not altered enough", "too altered", and etc. In my opinion, that nomination brought out the worst in the FP process. It also taught me something very important: you can't make everyone happy. Centpacrr said it best, "This is why I never nominate any images (or anything else) for such WP "merit badges" as it only brings out the nit pickers who, after they insist on unnecessary restoration, ignore the actual image itself in favor of criticizing it for being "too altered" or "not altered enough". Why not just appreciate the original image for what it is and what it depicts?" What he said is very wise and true. When you alter something, people are going to criticize you for not alternating it enough or for alternating it in the first place. And when you don't alter it, another group of people will criticize for scratches, blots, excess lighting, and etc. It's a catch-22. At any rate, the job you have is tough. I commend you for it. Sorry for such a long response. It's an important experience I just wanted to share. Étienne Dolet (talk) 21:21, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
 * It wasn't too long of a response, and it tracks very well with my own feelings and experiences, not here, but elsewhere. When it comes to beauty, everyone has their own ideal, and with that ideal come expectations. With differing expectations come arguments and bickering. I've had people hire me to restore old photos, and nitpick the restoration efforts until they have the original image, and I've have people hire me for the same thing, only to insist upon more and more effort until what they have doesn't even look like a photograph anymore. I try to pretty much ignore everyone's opinion but my own, unless there's something factual about their commentary (like Adam's comments about the missing textures in the nomination thread). MjolnirPants   Tell me all about it.  13:03, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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Yerevan
Can you help keep watch of the Yerevan page? An azeri user is adding the azeri name for Yerevan while citing azeri websites as evidence. I have reverted it but i cannot anymore do to the revert rule.Ninetoyadome (talk) 23:47, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

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..For the review. If you could please take a look at Template:Did you know nominations/Peter Settman it is already reviewed but needs a second opinion and has been waiting for almost a month. Appreciate it.--BabbaQ (talk) 17:40, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
 * If you could take a look at Template:Did you know nominations/Makode Linde I would appreciate it. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 12:17, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Shushi, etc.
Do you think the discussion and result regarding the name ʿAyn al-Arab or Kobane at can be used on the Shusha article and similar? Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 21:21, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, of course. WP:COMMONNAME is something we should all abide by. What's the common name for Shusha/Shushi? Étienne Dolet (talk) 21:35, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

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Discussion at tr:Ermeni Kırımı
Neyse, beni arkadaslîktan silmek istiyorsan sil.. banane. Ama haberin olsun tr:Tartışma:Ermeni Kırımı'da artikelin adînî degistirmek istiyorlar, ya Ermeni Soykırımı yada Ermeni Tehciri olsun diyorlar. Yoruma sende katîl.--84.153.217.242 (talk) 17:19, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

The Road from Home: The Story of an Armenian Girl
There is no other notable topic, titled The Road from Home. May I rename it without subtitles? --George Ho (talk) 20:52, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your interest in the article. I thought about the name of the article as well. I still think the current name of the article should remain. However, in my opinion, if we can do a redirect of "The Road from Home", that will suffice. What do you think? Also, I accept your good faith edit with the image but I think am going to have to revert the image since that edition is not the commonly used anymore. Étienne Dolet (talk) 21:23, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Please do not revert. Earliest edition is best recommended per MOS:BOOKS (oops, nonexistent; I wonder if MOS:NOVELS apply). As for the short title, I'll create a redirect in no time. --George Ho (talk) 21:28, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Per MOS:NOVELS: The image presented in the table should be the most significant cover historically for that book; often this is the first edition, but occasionally it is not: There's no doubt in my mind that the latest cover is the most significant since it is much more common and is identified with the current version today. Also, the illustration of the later edition is done by David Kherdian's wife Nonny Hogrogian, a notable illustrator herself. That boosts the significance of the later cover substantially. I hope we can reach an agreement on this. It really makes a big difference. Étienne Dolet (talk) 21:41, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, the earlier edition has the authentic (passport) photo of the author's mother. The later edition has a painting of her. The title is currently "The Story of an Armenian Girl", not "A True Story of Courage, Survival, and Hope". To do so, both image and later edition must be consistently used. The earlier edition cover matches the current title, so it must be used. --George Ho (talk) 21:46, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, an image must be discussed in sources. If you want to use the later edition cover, the other title must be used. Otherwise, "The Road from Home" would be best bet. --George Ho (talk) 21:49, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, come to think of it, I think it be best to move the article to "The Road from Home". That way both editions will be better represented in the article. And we can then place the more common and significant cover. Agreed? Étienne Dolet (talk) 21:51, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * All right; I reverted the image back to what it was. And I renamed the page. Let's move on then. --George Ho (talk) 21:58, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Great. By the way, the book is a must read. Étienne Dolet (talk) 22:04, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Education in Iran 0003 Urmia.jpg
Hello.accordind to your comment .Creator of picture do it.شاه بابل (talk) 02:10, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry but I don't think the picture has a high encyclopedic value to it either (EV).
 * Etienne, I don't want to make le circus on the nom, but could you please crop out the horse head not in fokus from the bear -girl, please - otherweise won't work, I think it is just going to be trouble. She is not centered either. Hafspajen (talk) 00:41, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not too good with stuff like that. Try submitting it to the Graphics_Lab/Photography_workshop. Étienne Dolet (talk) 00:46, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I am not good either. can crop, will you help? Hafspajen (talk) 07:10, 31 October 2014 (UTC).

DYK for The Road from Home
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????
What is wrong with adding a reference for a sentence? I will add the ref again. --Egeymi (talk) 21:24, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * "Armenian terrorism" written by an author who denies the Armenian Genocide is not a reliable source. I will replace it with another more reliable ref. Étienne Dolet (talk) 21:32, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Author's views do not alter the fact that the operation was named after Nemesis. Secondly, due to his views his article cannot be ignored or can be considered as unreliable. Because it is a scientific publication.Egeymi (talk) 21:38, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * People who deny the Armenian genocide are considered unreliable in Wikipedia because the consensus by the Wikipedia community is that the Armenian Genocide is a fact. Going against such a consensus by using denialist sources aren't going to fly. Also, "Armenian terrorism" doesn't sound like a scientific publication. It's best to replace with another reference. Étienne Dolet (talk) 21:43, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

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 * I explained in my edit summary that the picture is fuzzy, both in small size and large. Anyone who clicks on it to enlarge it, as I did, will be disappointed. You could ask at WT:DYK for their opinion or intervention, but I personally think it works better as a quirky (the last slot). Best, Yoninah (talk) 23:38, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, how bout I replace it with this version ? If so, would you be willing to insert it in a picture slot under another prep? I'd greatly appreciate it. Étienne Dolet (talk) 00:51, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I can try to be helpful when more prep spaces open up, but how is the new image any less fuzzy than the other one? Yoninah (talk) 01:18, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Yoninah. I thought a darker rendition of the photograph may look better. At any rate, I'd appreciate it if you can try to do something. But let me know if you can't, so I can look for other avenues asap. I don't normally do this but considering that I worked my butt off trying to find Mihran's granddaughter just so she can sign that release statement, I would really like to give not only myself a token of appreciation, but to her as well. Again, thank you very much. Your efforts are much appreciated :) Étienne Dolet (talk) 01:33, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, I moved it back up to the picture slot. Could you add the darker image to the Commons page and to the article? I'd like to use that one on DYK. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 10:22, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * This was really kind of you. I am very much appreciated of going out of your way to do this. I uploaded the darker version. You can refresh your browser or clear up your cache and you'll be able to view it. Thanks once again, Étienne Dolet (talk) 10:34, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, good, I'm glad it's automatic and I don't have to do anything else. Best, Yoninah (talk) 17:32, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

FYI
On Sockpuppet_investigations/EtienneDolet/Archive you legitimately responded "Such a waste of time. Étienne Dolet (talk) 06:53, 25 August 2014 (UTC)"
 * Yeah, whatever acting innocent before the judgement.--Yacatisma (talk) 08:10, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
 * please see Sockpuppet investigations/NovaSkola, I think Yacatisma is back. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:37, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Good find. I'll prepare my response shortly. By the way, we go way back. Remember proudbolsahye? That was my former username. Good to hear from you again. Étienne Dolet (talk) 22:51, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Good to hear from you too, thanks :) In ictu oculi (talk) 22:53, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, your familiarity helped sort that out, now striking nominator on the messy bag of WP:RMs. I expect that the sock will return to make more "English name" moves in future. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:58, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I reverted much of the controversial edits he's been doing. A good way to spot him out is when he inserts the Guba mass grave propaganda in various articles. Also, he loves his sports. I'm glad you spotted him. I didn't even notice till you mentioned it to me. Kudos to you my friend! Étienne Dolet (talk) 01:03, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Did the moving Azerbaijani towns to "English names" occur before or is this a new interest? It goes against what we do for every other Turkic geo name. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:08, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, he'll try to sock again. Considering the fact that he was quite successful in adding several chunks of information for several months without getting caught. That will give him the necessary motivation for him to do it again. But to your point, I never remember the name changing being an issue with NovaSkola. I do remember that he got hit with a WP:BOOMERANG when he sent Ninetoyadome, Yerevanci, and myself to AE (see here:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive135). Then, he violated his topic ban and got blocked indefinitely. Unfortunately, for users like this, it's much harder to block someone for sockpuppeting than it is to have them topic banned. But that's how things go with the project. Étienne Dolet (talk) 01:24, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Re: Misunderstanding
No problem. Your point on the ISIL talk page is well taken - and relevant to the ultimate decision. I was just thinking that it would be easier to see if anyone knows what we've done in the past and then decide whether to follow that example than try to discuss everything at once. I've just been part of too many multi-topic discussions, I guess. Unfortunately, I don't know how Wikipedia has done it - I was hoping that someone on the talk page there had experience with other conflicts' pages. – Philosopher Let us reason together. 02:42, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * It's really nice of you to go out of your way and message me here. I appreciate it. Don't sweat about the misunderstanding, I wish I had made myself more clear in my response. At any rate, the discussion is a necessary one. Let's see what the community thinks. If there's no consensus reached, I may have to go WP:BOLD and remove it. If it gets reverted, we'll resort to the talk page and find different avenues of consensus build-up. Étienne Dolet (talk) 03:09, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

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Topkhana forest
Do you know anything about Topkhana_forest_(Nagorno-Karabakh)? Someone brought to my attention how it is such a poorly written, unsourced article. I would make changes to the article but i do not know much about the forest. Ninetoyadome (talk) 05:15, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Don't know much about it. From what I see, Google books has a bit of info on it. That article is filled with POV filth (i.e. "Armenian invaders", "ruthlessly destroyed", and etc.) I can't really be sure whether this forest is notable enough. I'd double check the single source in the article. If it's based on one single partisan source, it may call for an AfD. Keep me posted. Étienne Dolet (talk) 05:56, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I nominated the article for deletion as the only source is not a reliable website, the site has no sources and the article is copied word for word from the website. Other sources i found online just talked about construction done on the territory by Armenia. About how Karabakh authorities authorized construction in the forest of recreation facilities for an aluminum enterprise. Also it stated: "It is interesting to note that one of the arguments used by azeris in challenging the construction in Topkhana was that the park was "a national shrine," by virtue of the fact that a battle against Iranian forces had taken place there in the 18th century.[1] I don't know if i did the deletion nomination correctly. I guess we will see what happens. Ninetoyadome (talk) 07:38, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * You could've just had it speedily deleted since the article is one big copy-vio. There's tags for that. Étienne Dolet (talk) 07:41, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The AfD process does not seem to have been done correctly - leads to a dead link. The article's current content is propaganda, and the source is propaganda. other sources suggest there does appear to have been a "Dashalti State Natural Reserve" created (or proposed to be created?) by Azerbaijan in 1988 - it might contain this forest (if the forest actually exists). And that also in 1988 the Kanaker aluminum factory is alleged to have been chopping down trees in a "Tophane forest" near Shusha. But none of this seems notable enough to justify an article even if it did have neutral sources. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 15:27, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * And here is a source . Tiptoethrutheminefield - A hillside with "a single tree and a few straggly bushes". Azeri propaganda turns it into a forest! It was a "forest" by 2009 (talk) 15:31, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm going to have some fun with the article. Maybe don't complete the AfD until you see what I have done. You may want to retain it and stop the AfD. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 15:54, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Anyone know, is the Dashalti river mentioned in the article the Karkar river? Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 22:24, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Can we defer this discussion to the talk page of the article please. Étienne Dolet (talk) 00:24, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Mihran Mesrobian
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 * Nice work on this article. I've always loved Mesrobian's designs from the 1920s-1930s.  APK  whisper in my ear  19:57, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your kind words. It took me two months to write that article. Do you live in the DC area? Have you seen his buildings first hand? Étienne Dolet (talk) 20:14, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I lived in Dupont Circle from 2006-2013. (my partner and I moved to the Shenandoah Valley last year) I love old architecture and local history, so this article is right up my alley.  I've seen and photographed many of his buildings; a few of my photos are in the article.  APK  whisper in my ear  20:21, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh my, I didn't notice you took those photos! Kudos to you. Those photos really helped out with the article. I wouldn't think it would grasp as much attention without them. Let me know if you take more photos. We'll place them in the Career section of the article. The gallery section is a little too far down. I'm sure many readers have missed it. Étienne Dolet (talk) 00:37, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

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 * Sorry about that. I really don't like the term "failed", I prefer "not listed". All it really means is that it's not in a state to pass GAN now, but it's been tagged as a vital article, so it's a topic well worth tackling in earnest for a future GA review. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  17:45, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, thank you so much for taking your time to review this. Your review was extensive and very well elaborated. I wish you gave me time to carry out the suggestions you made. Can you give me a week? Étienne Dolet (talk) 18:34, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks - glad I have't scared you off. By all means work through the issues as they'll make the article better, but the sourcing and recentism issues are such that I expect substantial amounts of the article to be changed to the extent I'd have to do a whole new review. If I looked the article now, I'd find it a long hard slog if I'm honest. It may be simpler to tackle one section at a time and move on. Best of luck, anyhow. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  18:58, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks for everything once again! Étienne Dolet (talk) 18:59, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Zareh Sinanyan
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Barnstar
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Fmelikov
I would suggest reporting this editor for editwarring since this is the 2nd time this editor has tried to push his POV into this article. --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:45, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Best wishes for a happy holiday season

 * Thank you Hafspajen, this was very kind of you. I wish a merry Christmas to you as well. Étienne Dolet (talk) 02:13, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Jack Hadjinian
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Your GA nomination of Geographical name changes in Turkey
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You're welcome!
Thank you for the barnstar ... it's making my Christmas Eve! You have a very nice holiday yourself ... Daniel Case (talk) 01:33, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

April 24 TFL
Hi Etienne. Now that the template for 2015 TFLs has been created, I don't see any reason to leave the article on the submissions page any longer. I'll put locking the list in on my list of things to do over the weekend. Giants2008 ( Talk ) 02:09, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

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Animal name changes in Turkey
The revision of the article consisted of the addition of the full statement by the ministry of subject; based on the full statement declared by the ministry in the original language (here: Turkish). I have revised the translation to better reflect the statement. In addition, the called revision also included the statement made by the executive secretary of the scientific organisation (International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature) that is overseeing the nomenclature of subspecies (Mr. Polaszek). Barring the objection to using the word "attempt" in reference to the changing the names, which has been corrected since. I'm failing to see why my revisions have been undo-ed consistently without much explanation, since the revised content was about the facts, not an re-aligned version of it. It would be better if you can state your explanations regarding the undo of revision 640114330; as to where the translation was at fault. In which part of the revised article had the claimed translation error occurred.
 * Because it is much more preferable to have a professional translation of the quote from a reliable source, rather than your personal translation. Étienne Dolet (talk) 22:12, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

The article would be significantly better if the revision was not undo-ed as a whole. I'm reversing to the revisions leaving the translation as it was before.
 * That's fine with me. But I may have to do some copy-edits. Étienne Dolet (talk) 22:20, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the copy edits once again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AchmetKKK (talk • contribs) 22:50, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Hafiz Mehmet
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Hafiz Mehmet article
Thank you for your article about the 1918 Turkish politician Hafiz Mehmet. The article mentions that he was accused of an attempted assassination of Ataturk, yet there is no link, nor explanation of this. Hafiz' witness of the Armenian Genocide seams well cited, but there is nothing about the assassination. Can you please explain more on this as this is very important part of the story. Dinky</b> town  talk  09:50, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

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Araksi Çetinyan
I really do not know what I am opening a discussion for, because the burden of proof lays on the user who refers to the source, but whatever:. Parishan (talk) 02:51, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Uncited paragraphs
To what are you referring? I don't recall saying there were uncited grafs in the Turkey names changes article ... if there had been I wouldn't have passed it. Daniel Case (talk) 03:27, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Look closely. That was a different person who commented about the uncited stuff. You need to talk to him. All I had written was that I had reworded the hook. Daniel Case (talk) 03:35, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Don't worry; I have made the same mistake myself. More than once. Daniel Case (talk) 03:39, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks
Great job expanding Srvandztiants. I appreciate it. -- Ե րևանցի  talk  00:09, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
 * No problem. I also found a PD photograph of him that I will add soon. Étienne Dolet (talk) 00:22, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Great! Once again, thank you. -- Ե րևանցի  talk  01:39, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

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Amberin Zaman
Hello,

I have reviewed your article, and approved it for the Main page as a DYK. I am giving it a light edit for typographical errors, and such.

I do have one concern. At one point, you wrote that "...she is part of a vilification campaign by pro-government media." I suspect that you mean she is the target of vilification, but the present sentence is unclear. Although the awkward phrasing does not keep it from DYK status, a change would improve the article.

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AE
Would you mind copying the appropriate info about me in your statement and putting it in the discussion concerning me as well? I could see the excuse that it "doesn't count" otherwise being made. --Steverci (talk) 20:23, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

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Etienne, the pic is not here..? Hafspajen (talk) 12:38, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Good catch. I'll fix that right now. Étienne Dolet (talk) 18:26, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Sigh, yeah. Hafspajen (talk) 18:28, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Done. Étienne Dolet (talk) 18:29, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

...
Do not remove sourced informations. --Esc2003 (talk) 13:22, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Turkish courts-martial
I need help with this article:

Turkish courts-martial of 1919%E2%80%9320

Could you please check the contents of the book by Bilal Simsir? I have included him as a non-reliable (or quasi-reliable) author in the discussion below, which is still unanswered:

Talk:Turkish courts-martial of 1919%E2%80%9320

The source shouldn't be removed nonetheless, as per the content of the citation it includes documents of Foreign Office (which country?), which if verifiable, should be retrievable straight from the source. --92slim (talk) 23:38, 5 March 2015 (UTC)


 * There's a lot of problems in that article and I wish it could be built up from scratch. Valuable testimonies of massacres and forced drownings were said throughout the trials but it has been left out of the article. In fact, I added information about the court condemning Talat, Enver, and the rest to death only a year ago . Considering that the verdict, one was one of the most important aspects of the trial, was missing, it only goes to show how incomplete that article is. Étienne Dolet (talk) 01:18, 6 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Well, I have edited it heavily because I couldn't even understand what was written - it was obvious the editor didn't have the proper knowledge of Standard English. The sentences were clunky and uncohesive, if you look at the edit history you can see that now it's not similar at all to the version you witnessed; it is mostly written from scratch. The reason is because I figured that the sources are still valuable, because if Simsir's documents are indeed what they claim to be, the article be getting new additions that you have mentioned and the Simsir content in it revised. Compare the latest version with the version before (used cur. comparison with the last version of Gilo1969 (talk | contribs) at 00:41, 27 December 2014) . I am willing to do the work myself, and verify the sources properly, but I cannot verify the book by Simsir. The book seems unreachable, thus the need for verifying the "Foreign office documents" and this book in question (I kindly guessed the editor meant from the late Ottoman/early period of Turkey; I recently found out this Simsir was a Turkish Diplomat) and getting new sources further down the line.


 * There are two other related pages: Malta exiles and Effort to prosecute Ottoman war criminals; my sincere opinion is that the Malta exiles article should be merged with another article. For now I will focus on the article about the Turkish trials, as there is too much information to properly verify on those, and I can't exactly access Turkish sources or understand what they say. --92slim (talk) 13:28, 6 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Sorry, just want to say that I'm already replacing the Simsir source with a reliable source. The contents indeed constitute revisionism, after a closer look into it. --92slim (talk) 14:01, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

I have fixed the article throughly and replaced the questionable sources of important quotations in the article with reliable sources. This means that the past issues (due to the questionable edits from past users) of WP:VERIFY and WP:NPOV are vastly improved. Please, when you have time, do check the article and its sources to point out any places which may not adjust to Wikipedia policy (including WP:OR). --92slim (talk) 17:06, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Barev
You can reach much more easily to Armenian sources. "Racism in Armenia" has not yet created. Do you want to create it? --Esc2003 (talk) 20:48, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Bonus Paris Street Scene


Paris for Etienne. Hafspajen (talk) 01:23, 10 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Merci beaucoup mon bon ami . J'adore tous les choses Parisienne ;) How'd you know about my connection with France? Étienne Dolet (talk) 03:39, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Mon Dieu, Étienne vous avez un nom francais...  Hafspajen (talk) 12:16, 10 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Oh well I guess that gave it away mon frere. Étienne Dolet (talk) 17:59, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Oui. Hafspajen (talk) 18:17, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Nor Serount Cultural Association
Hi. Have you ever heard of this organization? I was going to tag it for deletion, but thought someone familar with Armenia-related topics could have a look to see if it's notable. I'm not seeing any reliable sources, but maybe they're out there, just hiding from me. <b style="color:#000080;">APK</b> whisper in my ear  00:07, 11 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Oops, looks like it's a copyvio. Never mind. <b style="color:#000080;">APK</b>  whisper in my ear  01:00, 11 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Give me a second. The article may be notable. Ill try and save it. Étienne Dolet (talk) 01:07, 11 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for taking a look at it. <b style="color:#000080;">APK</b> whisper in my ear  01:29, 11 March 2015 (UTC)


 * No, it's you who should be thanked. I saved the article just in time. Ceradon was to most likely delete it, but I removed the copyvio material 4 minutes before he arrived to the scene. Étienne Dolet (talk) 01:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

re: My first DYK
Thank you for offering me help. I really don't know how to formulate the question. I thought the most interesting part should be included. I didn't even know that DYK exists, so I have no idea wha0'st important for DYK or what isn't. If you could tell me how to formulate the question it would be good enough. That is, what is the most interesting part of the article? Դու հայ ես՞ --Yerevani Axjik (talk) 16:45, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Lavash article
Can you take a look at lavash article and most recent add on it's talk page. @92slim seems to pursue a biased agenda there. Thanks a lot. Hayordi (talk) 08:01, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Someone suggested to replace Armenian lavash with Armenian flat bread in lead sentence of lavash article. The sources attached to it use Armenian flat bread, too. Though, I know it is ofthen called Armenian lavash, we should probably use the terminology in sources. Could you reply to that? Hayordi (talk) 19:07, 19 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Check to see which term is more common in Google. Étienne Dolet (talk) 19:15, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

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I need some advice. This user has deleted links to Grace Knapp's books (unbeknownst to the user, I presume) on the article: and so far has failed to provide any valid reasons for her edits. Please let me know how to deal with this situation on the talk page. --92slim (talk) 15:49, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
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 * Can we change the leading sentence to "A map showing the locations of deportations and massacres of ethnic Armenians during the Armenian Genocide (click here for full size)..."? Étienne Dolet (talk) 08:31, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure, done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:33, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Also, isn't it weird to say "(click here for full size)" as part of the caption? Shouldn't it be (click for full size) or (click map for full size)? Étienne Dolet (talk) 08:35, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh wait, I didn't see that link there. Sorry. Étienne Dolet (talk) 08:37, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Made it bigger anyways, just in case more people miss it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:39, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Precious
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Thank you, Ètienne, proudly defining yourself only by talk and contributions, for quality articles such as Armenian Mesrobian School, Harutiun Shahrigian and Grace Knapp, people who lived and died defending Armenia, for extraordinary images such as Armenian woman kneeling beside dead child in field, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

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 * This was one of the happier moments in my career. Your words, in all its sincerity, have truly pleased me. Thank you, Étienne Dolet (talk) 17:39, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Merger
I think the merger of the Malta exiles article is a good idea, and the merger should be partial and carefully done as to not remove any information on the process. The only problem is that the list of supposed exiles is incomplete, with missing ID's. I assume some of them weren't ever exiled to Malta or even named as exiles, and are just probably just names mentioned in the courts-martial of 1919; of this I am not sure. --92slim (talk) 08:05, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

It is very possible that the roundup ID's mentioned in the article do not even correspond to the officials who were exiled to the Crown Colony of Malta. --92slim (talk) 08:16, 7 April 2015 (UTC)


 * I think what you point out about the ID tags has to do with more of the information that goes into the article rather than the merger. All other issues can be fix after the merger. I am against any information being lost as well. I find the Effort to prosecute Ottoman war criminals article much more well done though. Étienne Dolet (talk) 18:49, 7 April 2015 (UTC)


 * I didn't take the time to properly edit it. The reason is that before, the Malta exiles article was such a mess, as it included much irrelevant information; the article itself is irrelevant I agree - the main Efforts article is the one that makes the point, and as such the information contained in the Malta exiles article should be merged with the Effort article and not viceversa. I pasted the relevant information from the courts-martial article (such as the story as to how they were held in the prisons) to edit it further. It would probably be best to edit the "Malta exiles" article first before moving it, to make the process easier - regardless, do as you see fit. --92slim (talk) 21:08, 7 April 2015 (UTC)


 * I opened up a discussion at the talk page of Malta exiles. Please support or oppose the proposal accordingly. I don't want to merge without let the public know. They should also participate in the discussion. Étienne Dolet (talk) 00:01, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
 * You need to state your opinion in the talk page too. Otherwise it looks like you just asked a question. --92slim (talk) 09:38, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Nihal Atsız
Ignoring the discussion and restoring the addition was an inappropriate act. If you want to say something, you can join the discussion. I already explained the removal reason. If this stiuation is disputed, we can't add these claims too.Yagmurlukorfez (talk) 23:33, 12 April 2015 (UTC)