User talk:Euge Valencia

December 2023
Hello, I'm AntiDionysius. I noticed that you removed topically relevant content from Geoffrey Nice. However, Wikipedia is not censored. Please do not remove or censor information that directly relates to the subject of the article. If the content in question involves images, you have the option to configure Wikipedia to hide images that you may find offensive. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. AntiDionysius (talk) 16:46, 5 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello AntiDionysius. Can you offer any advice on how to add a line and a link to an article in the Times newspaper I tried to do it within the source code but fear I messed up because it didn't appear. Is there a wysiwyg interface that is relatively foolproof for a numbskull such as I who does not use code easily? Many thanks and hope you are having a great day! Euge Valencia (talk) 15:09, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Geoffrey Nice
Hello AntiDionysius!

I added this comment to explain why I had removed this paragraph viz:

"I have removed the reference to the Jersey case on the grounds that Sir Geoffrey Nice has tried repeatedly to appeal this or at least to have it removed, until now without success. He has written about it and it has caused him a great deal of distress. If it is to be reinserted, I would think it only fair if he were to be offered a right of reply, with a link to his reasons for objecting."

The reporting of the appeal is misleading because the Privy Council does not allow questioning of its decisions so it led to a potentially libellous character assassination. I have suggested above a way to retain it in a manner that is compatible with natural justice.

Is there any more I can do? I'd like to help.

Thanks and best. Euge Valencia (talk) 16:53, 5 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I might suggest before you proceed that you read Wikipedia's policy on editors making legal threats. I am not accusing you of doing so, I am simply offering a cautionary suggestion. GabberFlasted (talk) 16:59, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I am most certainly not making any legal threats! Just that the subject, whom I interviewed as a journalist, has been in despair over this so I thought it would be fair to add a link to his perspective. Is that not reasonable? Euge Valencia (talk) 17:01, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * There's a difference between removing the information and adding a portion about the subject's response to it. The latter might be appropriate. If his objection has been reported in reliable, independent source, then it could be worth adding. Do you know where that could be found? AntiDionysius (talk) 17:07, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I shall look for such a report, AntiDionysius! Thanks for the steer. Euge Valencia (talk) 17:11, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello! I tried to add a link to a report in the Times newspaper by a group of members of the Bar who strongly criticised the actions of the Privy Council but it has not appeared. Any advice? Thank you! Euge Valencia (talk) 17:27, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Subjects of Wikipedia articles do not have the right to demand parts of them be removed. Wikipedia is a reflection and summary of what is written in existing sources; if you think that portion of the page is not accurately summarising the wider coverage of the issue, I would suggest discussing it at Talk:Geoffrey Nice so it can be fixed. If, however, it's just the case that Mr. Nice objects to it, even though it is a reflection of the coverage in news outlets etc, then I'm afraid there's nothing that can be done.
 * Also, if you have a personal or professional relationship with the subject of the article, you should disclose this during any discussion, under Wikipedia's Conflict of Interest policy. AntiDionysius (talk) 17:05, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello. I understand that but I simply felt a fuller picture might be found were the reference to include the factual information that Sir Geoffrey has tried to make representation to the Privy Council over this, to no avail as I understand it.
 * I have no personal of professional relationship with Sir Geoffrey, other than that I interviewed him as part of an unrelated investigation, and this came up. I was trying to help, not hinder. All best. Euge Valencia (talk) 17:09, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Personal *or professional, I meant to say! Euge Valencia (talk) 17:10, 5 December 2023 (UTC)