User talk:Eugenia26

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Standard Life
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As per discussion, please update Standard Life Page as follows: Standard Life, is a long established brand in the UK financial services sector, originally in life assurance, now in pensions and long-term savings with almost 200 years of heritage in helping people to plan and save for their future.< "Standard Life history: One of the first Empire builders"> The brand is now owned by Phoenix Group. 

2018-2021 In 2018, Phoenix Group Holdings plc acquired the pensions and long term savings provider Standard Life Assurance Limited from Standard Life Aberdeen plc for £2.9 billion. <"Edinburgh pensions operation supports 2,800 jobs in city"> This followed a merger in March 2017 between Aberdeen Asset Management plc and Standard Life plc to form a pensions and investment group under parent company Standard Life Aberdeen plc.< "Aberdeen Asset Management and Standard Life confirm merger terms">

In May 2021, Phoenix Group acquired the 'Standard Life' brand <"Britain's Phoenix to buy Swiss Re's ReAssure business for $4.1 billion"> and in July 2021 Aberdeen Standard Life Group companies rebranded as ‘abrdn’.<"Standard Life Aberdeen becomes abrdn as it moves to 'single global brand'">

The Phoenix Group continues to grow the pensions and long term savings business of Standard Life Assurance Limited and invest in the ‘Standard Life’ brand.< "Phoenix Group announces investment programme for Standard Life"> Standard Life Assurance Limited retains its operational headquarters in Edinburgh.

Also, please remove 'list of managers' as this does not contain any data. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eugenia26 (talk • contribs) 14:15, 27 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Please see comments:


 * "with almost 200 years of heritage in helping people to plan and save for their future". This is promotional - please see WP:PEACOCK and WP:ADVERT.
 * "In 2018, Phoenix Group Holdings plc acquired the pensions and long term savings provider Standard Life...": the acquisition is already covered in the article and there is no need to repeat the description of Standard Life
 * "This followed a merger in March 2017 between Aberdeen Asset Management plc and Standard Life plc..." This is already covered in the article.
 * "In May 2021, Phoenix Group acquired the 'Standard Life' brand..." This is already covered in the article.
 * "The Phoenix Group continues to grow the pensions and long term savings business of Standard Life Assurance Limited and invest in the ‘Standard Life’ brand." This is again promotional.
 * "Standard Life Assurance Limited retains its operational headquarters in Edinburgh." The location of the headquarters is already covered in the article.
 * The list of managers clearly does contain extensive information: I am not sure what the problem is.

You have now added to same information four times despite having a conflict of interest and not securing consensus before adding the material. Please stop doing this. Dormskirk (talk) 14:39, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi Dormskirk Njd-de,

I'm trying to add the following information as the page needs to be updated with an up to date business information in order to reflect the current status. The information isn't being published. Could you please advise what I need to do in order to get it published?

2018 - 2021[edit] In 2018, Phoenix Group Holdings plc acquired the pensions and long term savings provider Standard Life Assurance Limited from Standard Life Aberdeen plc for £2.9 billion.[23] Standard Life Assurance Limited retains its operational headquarters in Edinburgh. Following the acquisition, the Phoenix Group used the ‘Standard Life’ brand under licence from Standard Life Aberdeen. In May 2021, Phoenix Group acquired the 'Standard Life' brand and in July 2021 Standard Life Aberdeen plc rebranded as ‘abrdn’.[25] Standard Life Brand Standard Life, is a long established brand in the UK financial services sector, originally in life assurance, now in pensions and long-term savings. The Standard Life brand (now owned by Phoenix Group) was first used in 1834, so has almost 200 years of heritage. The Standard Life brand has always been associated with the business of Standard Life Assurance Limited (and its subsidiaries) and is currently used by the Phoenix Group for its ‘open’ pensions, long-term savings and retirement business.

Comment added by Eugenia26 (talk


 * Hi - The facts that in 2018 Phoenix Group acquired the Standard Life business and that in 2021 Phoenix Group acquired the Standard Life brand are already covered in the article. The bit about Standard Life having almost 200 of heritage and the bit about the brand always having been associated with the Standard Life business sounds promotional to me and should not be included. There have been numerous attempts to include promotional material in this article already. Dormskirk (talk) 15:18, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Dormskirk.

Is it possible to refresh the current content on section 2018 - 2021. I have also edited the brand section reflecting your last comment. Would you feel comfortable with the below?

2018 - 2021[edit] In 2018, Phoenix Group Holdings plc acquired the pensions and long term savings provider Standard Life Assurance Limited from Standard Life Aberdeen plc for £2.9 billion.[23] Standard Life Assurance Limited retains its operational headquarters in Edinburgh. Following the acquisition, the Phoenix Group used the ‘Standard Life’ brand under license from Standard Life Aberdeen. In May 2021, Phoenix Group acquired the 'Standard Life' brand and in July 2021 Standard Life Aberdeen plc rebranded as ‘abrdn’.[25] Standard Life Brand Standard Life, is a long established brand in the UK financial services sector, originally in life assurance, now in pensions and long-term savings. The Standard Life brand (now owned by Phoenix Group) was first used in 1834. The Standard Life brand is currently used by the Phoenix Group for its ‘open’ pensions, long-term savings and retirement business.


 * Hi - As already explained, the facts that in 2018 Phoenix Group acquired the Standard Life business and that in 2021 Phoenix Group acquired the Standard Life brand are already covered in the article. And the bit about the brand is unnecessary and is promotional. Dormskirk (talk) 22:07, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

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There is currently a discussion at Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. The discussion is about the topic Standard Life. Thank you. Dormskirk (talk) 16:04, 19 October 2021 (UTC)