User talk:Eurosong/Archive 2

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As long as work is ongoing there are no alarms  YellowMonkey  ( cricket calendar poll! ) paid editing=POV 01:14, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Since the start of July, the only substantive changes have been Grk formatting some cites. Is anyone still planning to work on this?  YellowMonkey  ( cricket calendar poll! ) paid editing=POV 02:54, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Straw poll on reliable sources for Eurovision articles
The second RfC on sourcing for Eurovision articles has now being running for several weeks, you can view it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Eurovision. In order to help gauge the spread of opinion and draw conclusions from this discussion a straw poll has been started at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Eurovision. All project members are encouraged to read the RfC thoroughly and then cast their votes as they see fit. Rationales are still encouraged in the main discussion area above the poll, and participants can add appropriate new sources or options to the poll as they wish. Camaron · Christopher · talk 18:58, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

ESC origins
What do you mean by "correct info" here? Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 23:24, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I just reverted you because you must have not have noticed that I already addressed the failed verification tag that was reported in the review. I addressed most of the sourcing issues last week, but there are a few that remain. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 23:37, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Offline links are usually favored since they are more set in stone then information found on a website. What usually is done is an excerpt from the article is included in the reference, which I suppose I can add. When I changed the information back, I left the additional information that I had added and also moved the ebu ref to assist in referencing the material. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 01:03, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

RE: Italy
Hi EuroSong, sorry for the delay in getting back to you, I've not been able to access the Internet for 3 weeks, due to technical problems with the hard drive on my laptop which went corrupt, and had to be repaired. Also, thanks for keeping me informed about the Italy situation, much appreciated. Anyway, got so much to catch up with. Chat soon OK. (Pr3st0n (talk) 21:13, 28 July 2009 (UTC))

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Articles for deletion nomination of UK telephone code misconceptions
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Unreferenced BLPs
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 * 1) Petra Frey -

When I saw your edits...
I expected a section like "countering systematic US bias."

You cleverly state this as though there is no opposing UK bias, as in the case of Honor, where in someone changed all of the instances of "Honor" (as it was originally) to "Honour." Then when someone proposed a migrate back, several people complained, claiming the Americans were "trampling on their orthography."

I don't know whether it stems from an inferiority complex or just jealousy that the very project OF Wikipedia was an American invention, but I see much more UK bias than US bias, and it is intentional and malignant.

Your contributions reflect just that. Honestly, if you want to help Wikipedia, contribute something of your own rather than your unneeded changes that simply serve to introduce more conflict. 24.16.227.172 (talk) 02:14, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * You are under an incorrect illusion. I would happily reply to you, but I will not engage in dialogue with an anonymous IP. Please log in or register and let me know who you are, and I will respond. EuroSong talk 20:52, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

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Barbara Dex Award
Hello, I don't see any value in nominating the article Barbara Dex Award. Perhaps you don't know it, but it exists already 3 years. I don't see why you don't accept the article. There are thousands of articles that are less encyclopaedic. For instance a detail of every episode of Friends, or if you like to stay in the eurosong area every country in every year with a different article. The Barbara Dex Award is an Award that it given each year, how is that not encyclopaedic, perhaps also delete Pullitzer Prize? Now you may say Pullitzer Prize is more known but I think Barbra Dex Award is also worth mentioning. I see a lot of articles that are not encyclopaedic, but I don't bother them with a nomination. Waterloo1974 (talk) 21:18, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Countering systematic USA bias
Hi, just wanted to say that it is bugging me too from time to time, to see that things are sometimes so 'Americentric' on Wikipedia. But, er... wouldn't it be a brill idea to organise this somehow, in non-controversial, non-aggressive, non-nationalist ways, that is (of course)? Anyhow, count me in! :) Robster1983 (talk) 19:33, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, I am not the person that edits quite a lot on Wikipedia (although I must admit that I am using it a lot ;)), but my guess is that not only English Wikipedians and Australian Wikipedians might share this feeling, but, although I don't know for sure, many Wikipedians in the rest of Europe as well. I mean, if I take myself for instance, I have been taught UK-English as early as elementary school. Speaking in words like 'cab' and 'pants' was a big faux pas. ;) And, as I know it, other countries that invest in the English language being taught at an early age, might be Belgium, Luxembourg, Denmark, Sweden, Norway... So thinking about that, I was immediately thinking of some sort of group like WikiProject European Union, which gave me the idea of, if possible, forming a WikiProject? I don't know what the criteria are, and how they are met, in order to form a WP, but maybe it is something to look into?
 * Btw, sometimes I wished I haden't been brought up with UK-English. Because in 2007, when I was in San Francisco, I met these two people. One of them was a guy, and we grabbed some food somewhere in the centre of the city. At one moment I asked him: "Do you know where can I find a litter in this place?" He laughed so loud, and, after he calmed down (I really just couldn't figure out why or what), he said to me: "You mean a trashcan? A litter is a place for a cat that can, well, absorb its things." Rob-San Francisco: 0-1. ;) The other person I met during that trip was this girl, who is African-American, with whom I hang around with. One night, it was one week before Halloween, there was this party, and many people showed up being dressed up as whatever. And we were sitting in a park right across that party, secretly admiring or judging those people (we both loved criticising those 'Malibu Barbies', you know, those typically 'All American Girls' (yes, this is VERY biased, I know ;))). All of a sudden there was this girl who dressed up like she ran away from the Playboy mansion or something like that, so I promptly said: "God, she looks like she is only wearing knickers!" And, as I looked at the girl I hang out with, African-American and all, I started thinking: "Christ, this is not something that would be appropriate at this moment, since she is African-American, and the word 'knicker' sounds oh so close to 'the N-word'." Thank god she knew what I meant, and she just laughed really loud (made her evening a nice one, though ;)). Anyhow, Rob-San Franscisco: 0-2. ;) (This is so totally off topic, but perhaps it might make you smile as well :)) Robster1983 (talk) 21:27, 7 August 2010 (UTC)


 * PS Please, do call me Rob (for that's my name anyhow). :) Robster1983 (talk) 21:38, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

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Comment regarding your beliefs and work here on Wikipedia
I just discovered you and I thought I would leave a comment. Dude, your incredibly insecure. Heres a fact, the USA hosts the largest native English speaking population. Americans outnumber British and "Commonwealth" English speaking countries almost three to one. If we were to apply the principle of "majority rule", then it is in fact proper and just that American English take precedence over other varieties. Basically, if you take issue with the prominence of American English then you must also take issue with the main guiding principle of democracy. If you truly aren't nationalistic or have some inferiority complex then you should resign yourself to that fact and move on. End of rant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.105.127.101 (talk) 20:32, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Firstly, I would not usually spend my time replying to someone who does not know the difference between "your" and "you're" - but since this is on my talk page I'd better give some sort of response. "Majority rules" is not what Wikipedia is about. Please see the policy at Manual of Style. This is current, accepted policy - which states: "English Wikipedia does not prefer any major national variety of the language. No variant is inherently more correct than another." So it is clear that we are NOT applying "majority rules". Even if we were, by the way, it may interest you to know that if you add up all the speakers of English in the world from all countries, then they do actually outnumber the population of the USA - so you are incorrect. Not that that makes any difference to Wikipedia policy, of course - but since you appear to believe that it does, I felt that it ought to be pointed out to you. Regarding your personal comments and assumptions of how I feel, I shall not dignify that wiith a response. EuroSong talk 10:58, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

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Are you ready to quit wikipedia?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fixed-wing_aircraft/Archive_1#Move_request_.282006.29

"Oppose in the strongest possible terms - Google test means zero. "Aircraft" is a neutral term. The day this article gets renamed to "airplane", I will quit Wikipedia for good. EuroSong talk 14:44, 6 September 2006 (UTC)"

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Speedy deletion of User:Eurosong/Laughable/Shaun Elliot Tobias
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User:Eurosong/Laughable/Shaun_Elliot_Tobias
Hey there! Apparently you know this guy ^^^ ?? Shaun is actually my roommate in New York. Anyways this user space page comes up as the third result when searching for his name on Google. He knew I was active on Wikipedia and asked if there was anything I could do to delete it, so I added a db-g13 template as it hasn't been submitted for review and was last edited over three years ago. I understand this was just fun and games way back when, and if you are unfamiliar with the process, just know your credibility in the WP community is not at stake. An admin will take care of it. Anyways, a long belated cheers from Shaun, and now, myself! &mdash; MusikAnimal talk 00:08, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Uhh.... I have no idea who he is, and I did not create that page. Someone else must have created the page within my user space. Weird! EuroSong talk 17:22, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

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