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Re:Wheel and Axel
My edit to that page was done because I am using a recent changes filter that detects phrases such as "hi mom" etc. I thought my rollback was removing the offending "hi jennifer...etc." from a normal article, so it was just a mistake on my part. Malinaccier (talk) 01:49, 10 January 2008 (UTC) 

has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
 * Sorry, but I guess the article is deleted now...Malinaccier (talk) 01:52, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

 * Thanks! I'd hoped by giving you a barnstar that you would feel a sense of encouragement.  :)  Regarding the gold bikini section in the Leia article, it's interesting to think that that whole section came about just because of piqued curiosity!  Knowing my question at that article's talk page concerning the outfit probably wouldn't be answered (at least, not immediately, anway)  I decided to do some research myself.  I'm glad to see that the section came about so well (and that it has basically satisfied/discouraged the IP fanboys!). Thanks again! ;)  — Cinemaniac (talk  •  contribs) 03:27, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Banksia
Articles tagged into WikiProject Banksia are already tagged into WikiProject Australia. Hesperian 11:10, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Plus you're tagging the talk pages of redirects. Hesperian 11:11, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * No need to apologise, mate. I'm just trying to save you from wasting your time. If you really want to tag them, be my guest. ;-) Hesperian 11:25, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's what I thought you'd say. I also think tagging is often pointless. I've been involved in small WikiProjects where it is actually possible for someone to track the progress of every article, and in those cases tagging is brilliant. But for the life of me I can't understand why we tag into big projects like WP:AUS. Categories like Category:Start-Class Australia articles are way to big to be useful to anyone for any purpose, so the only bang we get for our tagging buck is a stats box. Therefore I don't bother tagging my articles into WP:AUS or WP:PLANTS anymore. Not that it makes any difference, because gnomes like Longhair and Rkitko (and now you!) tag them in anyhow. Hesperian 12:04, 11 January 2008 (UTC)


 * hmmmm no comment at this point see hesperians talk page - and I aint a gnome :| SatuSuro 12:50, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I used to do quite a lot of tagging as well. It's useful for the subprojects and useful as a measurement tool of the size of our quantum, but useless for the "Start-Class Australia articles" category and such huge things nobody could get on top of if they wanted to. Orderinchaos 12:55, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Not Vandalism
no vandalism happened in Gog and magog when I refer that the two people who did not agree that goths are same as Gog, were Goths themselves, hence Wikipedia should mention that unless people think they are a good reference10:00, 15 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Replied on your talk page. Euryalus (talk) 10:00, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
A belated thank you for your RFA support! Archtransit (talk) 21:17, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Other two
ScottDavis and CJ, although neither are currently active on political topics. I'm aware of the political views and affiliations of almost all others, but given the diversity of them (we have members or ex-members of all six of the major parties of the last 10 years, plus others with very strong views or sympathies towards one side or the other) there's a surprising lack of COI editing or positional fighting (which one sees for example on US political topics) - what one tends to see is the broader group of left-to-right moderates vs the radicals, which can get nasty when someone starts pushing a barrow too hard. Orderinchaos 11:40, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Laming
Keep it archived as there's too much there, any further discussion - as the archive tag indicates - can continue on the talk page from where it left off. But due to, um, certain recent events, i'm sure this will settle down from now on. Timeshift (talk) 20:39, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Emailed. Timeshift (talk) 21:40, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Military history WikiProject coordinator election
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Port of Eden
I was pleased to see the new article :-) Regards--Matilda talk 04:30, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I added a pic from the ISNC article (1903) - I do have some photos but it will take me some days to get organised enough to upload :-) Regards --Matilda talk 19:49, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Merge of Warm water port

 * You are correct. Thanks for fixing it for me. Zab (talk) 06:27, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Userpage
Not a problem for me at all, especially as I lifted almost whole from Hesparian! Your new page looks good. Cheers, Mattinbgn\talk 07:23, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I estimate you're about the tenth person to knock my user page design. I'm tickled pink! Hesperian 10:50, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Confirmation of mail
Dear Euryalus, thx for your invite. I will join the project you mention, but must inform you that my specialist knowledge is largely confined to Antwerp and to some extent other European ports. I trained on HMS Conway and was at sea for a couple of years. In later years I have worked as a technical writer and translator, often in fields related to maritime affairs and marine engineering. regards Everybody got to be somewhere! (talk) 17:26, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Caligae
I recently did a copyedit of the stub article on caligae and noticed that the picture of the reconstructed sandal in the article seemed wrong. I don't dispute that it's a piece of Roman footwear but it doesn't seem robust enough to be a soldier's sandal for heavy marching (note the perforations, particularly towards the heel). I've noticed that you seem to be interested in this field (from when you commented on my AfD for "Jittelar") so I thought I'd ask your opinion - the original editor and other contributors don't seem to be about much. Also, I can't see how hobnails would be very suitable for marching on the cobbled roads that the Romans are famed for - wouldn't it be like wearing a sprigged soccer boot and carry a risk of going for six on a hard and smooth surface? Or did the legionaries carry a repertoire of gear for various terrains? LuckyThracian (Talk) 02:33, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your reply and the picture link (quite enlightening). Whenever I try to get into detail about this sort of thing I rediscover how little we've actually got to go on for this era. LuckyThracian (Talk) 03:42, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Ports
Thanks for the invitation to the project. I'm not especially knowledgeable when it comes to ports but I'll help wherever I can, especially with sources and such. Cheers.  Altairisfar talk  20:40, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

List of seaports
Thanks. I've got no issue with real editors. The sockpuppet is the latest incarnation of a user whose been permanently banned for a three year edit war relating to splitting Hong Kong as a separate place from China, among a dozen other useless and obscure nitpicks. When the new socks pop up, I try to read the diffs, because there are often valid edits, but sometimes if there are dozens of them, I just undo them all. Other users knowledgeable on the subject will correct it, as I'm certain you did. Thanks. SchmuckyTheCat (talk)

Thanks
Thanks for the revert on my userpage. Looks like that editor is a fan of both of us. ;) Somno (talk) 03:26, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Port of Mainz
Thanks for the invite, but I'll probably pass, as I prefer to spread myself wide instead of specialising in one area. Though it is true that I created and pretty much single-handedly wrote Ports of Auckland and Port of Tauranga myself ;-) Ingolfson (talk) 04:57, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Photos

 * I've Been Everywhere ;-)
 * Thanks for the nice comment Regards --Matilda talk 21:41, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


 * But not Indonesia - only SE Australia :-( Googling did not find any public domain images that could help either - what a pity --Matilda talk 22:12, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I have asked at Commons Commons:User talk:Midori - a user has taken some pics of Cirebon and may be has some more that he hasn't uploaded.--Matilda talk 22:24, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * A prompt response at commons:User_talk:Matilda - he didn't just eat! :-) --Matilda talk 23:35, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Images now at the Port of Cirebon article :-) --Matilda talk 02:36, 18 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Haven't been there either - but there were some images from Commons that I have placed in the article :-) --Matilda talk 04:33, 18 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I have to admit defeat on Bandar Imam Khomeini :-( --Matilda talk 00:05, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Military history WikiProject coordinator election
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Riding Halter
On the AfD for Riding Halter, would you mind moving your vote to above the "Consensus?" heading? In the location where it is now, it is a little out of place. Thanks. --Una Smith (talk) 04:30, 27 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Never mind. The AfD has been closed.  --Una Smith (talk) 03:31, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Reply
Difficult to know. :/ If it wasn't for the utterly disruptive talk page conduct, I'd say there was hope, as the draft proposed paragraph is the best we've seen thus far. Orderinchaos 23:36, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your support

 * I wish to thank you for your support in my unsuccessful bid at becoming an Assistant Coordinator for the Military history WikiProject. Rest assured that I will still be around, probably even more than before, and I have the utmost confidence in the abilities of the current and new coordinators. I might also mention that I am already planning on running again in August. As always, if you need anything, just get in touch. -MBK004 21:32, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

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Frank T. Cable
I would like "Euryalus" to know that Frank Taylor Cable (as well As Lawrence York Spear) were not exactly men of very high integrity - as they were not forthcoming about certain events that surrounded the initial success of John Philip Holland's [HoToBoCo/Electric Boat Company... they were also somehow honored in a ironic way by having United States Naval Ships named after them]. Holland even stated that these "whippersnappers" have "ruined my life's work"... that's not all they ruined! They (Cable and Spear) were also arrogant and selfish - as they embellished their roles at Electric Boat - while ignoring certain (individuals) and truths - that are still being distorted today by this same company on this (same) egotistical level. Frank Cable was not a shipbuilder at this "early" point (13 October 1897) and yet he took credit for things that he did not do. The story goes on and on as it is in contridiction to "their versions" but I'm not going to go into it right now. Facts are, Cable falsely takes credit for the development of The Imperial Japanese Navy's first five submarines built for the Electric Boat Company at Quincy, Ma. in 1904. But this is just not the case. Try telling that to today's EBCO! See Arthur Leopold Busch Wiki article (history section) dated circa 06/21/07... fair, balanced, and unbiased version of what really happened at EB and the contention/corruption therein. Read The Defender: The Story of General Dynamics. The author makes clear (of) the company's ability to simply take refuge in very poor memories... as they remember only what they want. Yet they are known to be "steeped in scandals" since their foundations as Electric Boat! Your revision of Frank Cable does not accurately reflect what he did while at Holland's company. Earlier versions of this account are more "fair and balanced". --Middim13 (talk) 20:08, 15 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.29.67.21 (talk) 00:48, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Hamriyah
Why haveyou removed info on the Rulers of Hamriyah? And Hamriyah is a town, not only a port. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.233.160.136 (talk) 03:12, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm aware
of the new Lir tread. However since my participation I have had a difficulty loging into Mrg3105, my password not being recognised, and being required to verify myself every time! Is this a coincidence, or am I becoming paranoid? --mrg3105 (comms) ♠ ♥ ♦ ♣ 00:29, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Balti Steppe
Hello, could you please have a look at the article totally meesed up again by User Dc76. He moved it this time instead of Balti Depression to Balti Plain.--Moldopodo (talk) 08:12, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Winter is finally over...
--Cinemaniac (talk •  contribs  •  critique) 02:54, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Noel Gray
Hi - I have no problem with the new tag. I think by the way is one of the people the anon editor is attacking and it is probably the edit summaries that are a problem in the revision history. I feel that while deletion of edits can be done it is difficult and of course means transparency is lost. It would also not be just this article but the Telectronics one as well and perhaps others (which I don't watch but I assume the anon also edits such articles as deal with pacemakers more generally). We will wait and see if there is a response and I will act on it if there is one but it might not be till next week.--Matilda talk 06:04, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Copyright violation at Montreal Museum of Fine Arts
The History content you added at here, was copied directly from the museum's Web site. The Web site's copyright regulations forbids this. I believe I have no choice, per WP:CV, than to revert to an earlier version. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:31, 29 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your message. I did not add the section. I simply restored it after it was blanked as an apparent act of vandalism by an anon IP. I have no view re the content of the article - if you have detected a copyright problem by all means remove it. Euryalus (talk) 06:28, 29 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, I see that, now. I should have gone two clicks further back in the edit history. The editor who pasted in the text is a SPA who has not contributed since. thanks, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 06:41, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

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Re: Chris Pahlow
No worries, I have the page watchlisted in case there are any I can help with and clicked when I saw you added and then self-reverted. Figured it was the case of a multi-nom, that's happened to me any number of times. TRAVELLINGCARI My storyTell me yours 04:29, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

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articles Noel Desmond Gray / Telectronics Pty Ltd
Thank you sincerely for your continuing surveillance of these articles and in deleting personal attacks. I, QRS, am not Keith Jeffcoat, I am what I state on my user page. Should you perhaps wish to know more about the person who continues the unsigned claims and attacks it might be possible to inform you using a medium such as Yahoo mail. Regards QRS (talk) 03:02, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

How about the opportunity to defend QRS's obvious bias against other edits of the Noel Gray page. Perhapy you should also allow a contact against what he says or is the some kind of secret society? XYZ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.164.111.21 (talk) 10:49, 31 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks again for deleting the personal attack on my talk page. The person is his own worst enemy. He seemingly cannot comprehend that Wikipedia is not a blog site, nor comprehend that if he were to adhere to the rules of Wikipedia by registering as a user, by avoiding extravagent & unsupported claims, by being civil in his comments and by checking the literacy of his edits before clicking the 'save' button, he could ensure that the article is an accurate and respectworthy article which does justice to the contribution to society made by his father, Noel Desmond Gray.QRS (talk) 02:52, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

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RE: Staff list deletion at Horsforth school.
Please could you stop deleting objects and lists from the Horsforth School Page. The teachers are very hard working and they deserve all the credit they get. If you complete the same action again, my husband who is an administrator, will block you from making any further changes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Farsleyceltic (talk • contribs) 12:37, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for sharing your views. Please see the comments by User:DWaterson on your talk page. Euryalus (talk) 22:44, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

list of teachers names
I apologise that I did not know the list was vandalism. But I think it is valid information and me and my colleague have worked really hard to make it better. Also we have made the layout much better Just like Pickering High School, Hulls page. They have a list of names. What makes them so special? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Canpop (talk • contribs) 12:46, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

cheers
Thanks for that. I saw it, but was busy doing other things; and besides, I prefer not to feed the trolls by reverting crud like that myself. Was wondering how long it would take for someone to revert. 4 minutes ain't too shabby. Hesperian 02:42, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Request for copyediting
Hello. I was wondering if you would be interested in copyediting the Insane Clown Posse article? I currently have it up for a FAC, and the previous copyeditors who worked on the article don't seem to have done much copyediting on the sections following the "History" section. Would you mind taking a look at the sections "Style and influences," "Live performances" and "Controversy and criticism"? (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 22:13, 25 June 2008 (UTC))

RfA Review
Hello. I've noticed that you have a completed set of responses to the RfA Review question phase at User:Euryalus/RfA review, but they don't seem to be included on the list of responses here. If you've completed your responses, please can you head to RfA Review/Question/Responses and add a link to them at the bottom of the list so that they get included in the research. We have a closing date of midnight UTC on 1st July, so please add your link before this date. Once again, thank you for taking the time to participate in the Question Phase of RfA Review.Gazimoff Write Read 12:15, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

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RFA
Hi there. I've responded to your comment at my RFA. Please comment back. Regards, D.M.N. (talk) 07:09, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I've answered the question now. Thanks, D.M.N. (talk) 07:48, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Request for copyediting assistance
Hi. Will you have the time to be able to perform a copyedit on the Frank Zappa article? (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 08:00, 13 July 2008 (UTC))

Honorifics
Ahh good old frank (above) a wise and honourable man - honorifics comes from being an indonesian project editor- and ok OZ project notice board - it wasnt the right place to bring it up but that was presters raison d'etre for editng for a considerable time - it is a nightmare at the indonesian project as many indonesian based editors find it impossible to see their rulers and heroes without the honorifics in the title of arts - it is a cultural thing and i remember being seriously chastised for not making appropriate honorifics to a member of the spiritual world in java - it was as though i was going to bring down damnation upon myself and my audience if i didnt repent on the spot and only name her with her full honorific state- the main wikipedia article on honorifics is a heap of rubbish but i dont have the refs or the time at the mo - as for the project islam to discuss it - nah not interested too many issues to deal with there :( SatuSuro 05:40, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

No offence at all - it is very hard not think of the classic put downs that good ole frank zappa used to give out about everything SatuSuro 07:18, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Prophets of Islam reversion
Why did you remove the See also section from Prophets of Islam? Also, the "Islam Questions and Answers" link, which I removed because it seemed promotional, does not seem to have uniquely valuable information on the subject, per WP:EL; why restore this? / edg ☺ ☭ 07:43, 17 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Odd, I must have been looing at an earlier version of the page and edited it by accident. I meant to remove the commentary attached to the link to IslamQA, and put it where it belonged as an external link rather than a "See Also". Looking back on ym edit, this is not what I actually did - I have reverted myself. Sorry for the mistake. I have no strong view on whether IslamQA is promotional, but am happy for it not to be included if there is a view against it. Euryalus (talk) 10:22, 17 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for attending to this so quickly! / edg ☺ ☭ 11:38, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Woops!
Sorry about that! Thanks for fixing it. :) Cheers, Sarah 05:19, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Zappa excluded
2. An axe to grind. (a) an ulterior motive (b) grievance (c) pet subject collins english 1979 p.101 - have more details if you want SatuSuro 05:21, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Articles needing copy edit (tentative name)
Hello there!

I have begun laying the groundwork for a new WikiProject that has a very simple goal, to improve Wikipedia by dealing with the articles tagged for copy edit, and I am wondering if you are interested in helping me start it. This project is not a clone of WP:LOCE because we will not deal with requests for review (that is currently handled by our good friends over at Peer Review).

I expect that this will be a relaxed, happy and casual WikiProject, because participants will be able to take things at their own pace and use the project page to ask other participants for help. The project proposal is here, and I have created an almost-functional project page in my userspace here.

There are now over 4000 articles needing copy edit, and very, very few people working on them, so any help, however small, is appreciated. If you are interested, please sign up at the proposal page. Once we have enough people, I will shift the project page, along with its subpages from my userspace into the Wikipedia namespace. For now we can use this section of my talk page to discuss the direction and details of the project, and, of course, its name. *grin*

Cheers!- Samuel  Tan  12:32, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

HelpAroundTheHouse Deletion
Hi Euryalus. I only just noticed that you'd placed a note on a page that I created some months ago. It relates to the topic, HelpAroundTheHouse, which you marked for removal because it did not satisfy the noteworthiness criteria. I am now able to provide some quality references that attest to the article's noteworthiness. The main one is from an Australian prime-time television report that was done about the website (along with another loosely related service). In addition, the site's creator, Saba Mussie, was also recently interviewed in a radio program. Please note that these reports were entirely non-commercial in nature; in both cases the reporters judged that their audience would be interested in the subject and created the report with no commercial enticement. Would these be enough to meet the criteria? Regards Hcaandersen (talk) 23:53, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

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scia
Wikipedia is not paper, and among its advantages is absence of restrictions on about of data in an article. Of course, each of these person may be not notable individually and never get a separate article about themselves, but as founders they played a notable role in the history of the organization.

You are very welcome to add/reformat and otherwise improve the article, but please do not delete valid and directly relevant information from articles, unless it is complete trivia. I understand that these people were simple people with disabilities, not any grand politicians or big money bags, but still they were the founders, and deserve some amount of respect, even if they were bums, drunkards, or injured themselves by stepping on a banana peel. God's ways are mysterious.

I have no particular interest in the article. I only added a reference, so that in would not have been deleted by deletionists right away. `'Míkka>t 23:17, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the clarification. I don't believe I was being disrespectful of the founders, and in fact noted otherwise in my edit summary. I see a fair few articles with long lists of people's naames, and don't always think they need to be there (the Mytharria article for example lists dozens of playernames as a kind of memorial).


 * But this is a side issue. I'll keep working on the article and leave the founder's names where they are. Euryalus (talk) 23:29, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

RfA?
What's your position with regards adminship? If you're interested, I would be happy to nominate you. Hesperian 05:38, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, no worries mate. Hesperian 07:42, 6 August 2008 (UTC) P.S. BTW I won't get bent out of shape if you end up preferring someone else to nominate you. Hesperian 07:43, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't forget to let me know when you do, I'd be happy to support. Orderinchaos 10:44, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Me too (assuming you don't have any skeletons we don't know about!! haha)! And for what it's worth, IMO, Hesp is an excellent person to have as a nominator.. Sarah 12:06, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Sarwar Jahan Nizam
Hi Euryalus - thanks for the work you did in cleaning up that article; unfortunately, it was a copyvio from the beginning, and the original copyvio text remained identifiable throughout most of its edit history. The first part, however, you had reworked so thoroughly that eventually it was really no longer recognisable, so I'm pasting it here in the hope that you might recreate the article with this material (I'm doing it this way for strict GFDL compliance, since you authored the text, not me!) Cheers --Rlandmann (talk) 21:58, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Sarwar Jahan Nizam (b. 1952) is a Vice-Admiral and Chief of Staff for the Bangladesh Navy.

Early life Nizam was born in the Anwara district of Chittagong in 1952. He joined the erstwhile Pakistan Navy as an officer cadet at the age of 18, and compelted six months training at the Pakistan Military Academy in Kakul. In 1970 he joined the Pakistan Naval Academy in Karachi with the 70/A Batch for further training, and was commissioned into the Executive Branch of the Bangladesh Navy in 1973.

Nizam graduated from Defence Services Command & Staff College Mirpur, Dhaka in 1986 and from the National Defence University in Beijing, China in 1996. Other academic qualifications include a Communication Specialization Course with the Royal Navy and completion of a Senior Executive Course with the Asia Pacific Centre for Securities Studies in the United States.

Active service Nizam has held command positions with most of the large vessels in the Bangladesh Navy, including three years as commander of the frigate BNS Umar Farooq, the largest naval vessel in Bangladesh service.

Nizam also held a range of staff command positions including that of the Flotilla Commander and Commodore Commanding Chittagong (COMCHIT). He also served as Assistant Chief of the Naval Staff (Operations) and Assistant Chief of the Naval Staff (Personnel) in Naval Headquarters.


 * I hear you! It boggles my mind that the Navy's official website is written like that! Cheers --Rlandmann (talk) 04:40, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Implausible notability
You wrote: "if an article asserts genuine notability but the assertion itself appears plainly untrue, does it still qualify as an assertion of notability for speedy deletion purposes?" No, it doesn't. Otherwise, we'd get "Justin smith is the president of the United States, lolz" and wouldn't be able to speedily delete it."  NawlinWiki (talk) 05:00, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter
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Damh the bard deletion discussion
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Shipping container architecture article
Hello, I have added the container wall photo here,. I'm unsure how to properly insert images into articles, so feel free if you wish to do so. Surfing bird (talk) 00:16, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for including it and the editing tips.Surfing bird (talk) 02:46, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Sinolink
I answered your post on my talk, see also my note on the user's page, which was before I saw your cmt. TravellingCari 12:13, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

I have no problem with the new username; they are better off just opening a new account or having one created under that name rather than formally changing it. However, the new one needs to be monitored for spamming, and blocked appropriately if so. Daniel Case (talk) 13:55, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

We'll see how they respond to the current decline. I'm assuming bad faith and all, but I'm not seeing their comprehension of "stop spamming!" TravellingCari 22:48, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

hi
Sorry about the delay; I was busy IRL and had to put it on the backburner. And then I forgot all about it! I can't even promise to do it today, but rest assured it is back on my radar. (Damn me and my mixed metaphors!) Hesperian 00:34, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No worries mate. You forgot about it; I like that :-) "no big deal" etc. Hesperian 01:12, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

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Jill Hall
Perhaps i'm not AGF, but I don't believe the original comment was genuine, considering the last bit of their contribution. Clearly it was there to be negative. Timeshift (talk) 04:00, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Frank Cable's page should be overhauled as it does not accurrately reflect on the events that occurred during the foundation of The Electric Boat Company.
Dear Mr. Euryalus:

I have made a minor correction to (Frank T Cable's) page Frank Cable and I want you to be aware of that. I think the "original version" of this story was less biased than the current version that is (currently) posted on Wikipedia. Information about this man and the company he once managed... Electric Boat Company is very much distorted and biased in favor of those such as Isaac Rice, Elihu B. Frost, Frank T. Cable and Lawrence Y. Spear. This elusive story got that way because of the biased versions coming from Frank T. Cable and Lawrence York Spear etc. and are not accurrate. No offense, but the truth in regards to this matter will not always be politically correct or what "they" want us to know concerning this subject. Cable was not a shipbuilder or naval architect but took credit (away) from people such as Arthur L. Busch for instence. Cable (and Spear) thought that submarine ships would have better performance and handle better with propellers located forward of the rudders. This was later proven wrong (again) as Holland had it right before them. With integrity, I will tell you the truth. Good day to you Sir! --Middim13 (talk) 00:19, 30 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Middim13 (talk • contribs) 00:12, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

telectronics and Noel Gray's background
Who do you know that knows better than Chris Gray about Noel Gray's background? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.229.45.13 (talk) 10:34, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Replying here as you have a dynamic IP so there's no point in leaving messages on your talk page. The problem with your additions to the Noel Gray page are: Secondary sources on Noel Gray are hard to come by, and I appreciate you feel the article does not do your father justice in his role in Telectronics or in designing pacemakers. The answer is to find more sources, not include unsourced statements in the article. Given the points above it might also be worth your while to look at editing other articles instead of this one - Wikipedia is a big place and there's plenty else to do. Euryalus (talk) 22:12, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * They are unsourced or use only self-published sources. These are not generally sufficient to reference anything other than uncontroversial matters.
 * They represent a particular point of view, in that they are generally designed to portray your father's life in a favourable light while casting aspersions on his business partners. Articles should maintain a neutral tone and present the verifiable facts, good or bad, about their subjects.
 * They represent original research, which you demonstrate again in your message above. Of course you know a great deal about your father's life, but Wikipedia is not a repository of its editors personal knowledge, but of verifiable, cited facts.
 * Lastly, you have a conflict of interest. editors are strongly discouraged from writing articles about themselves, their families or companies they work for, because there is always at least a perception (and often a reality) that they will have trouble presenting a neutral view. Editors who write articles about subjects very close to them may also sometimes develop a sense of ownership of particular articles.

You have an inflated view of your formalities that prevents the truth being told so there is no point in further discussion. I hope this subversive diatribe is one day removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.186.157.179 (talk) 12:17, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

AfD
Hi Euryalus

Just to correct something you said here and here. Anon editors can nominate an article for deletion, they just need to leave the nomination details on the article's talk page and, if reasonable, an AfD will be created as part of DumbBOT's operations (albeit manually). The AfD tag says: "Unregistered users placing this tag on an article cannot complete the deletion nomination and should leave detailed reasons for deletion on Talk:James E. McPherson. If the nomination is not completed and no message is left on the talkpage, this tag may be removed." Thanks! ➨ ❝ЯEDVERS❞ will never be anybody's hero now 17:26, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

My User page
Please note that I know the American $2 exists, the reference that I was removed by the anon was to a story where a cashier claimed that it did not exist. I was using that as a reference for the factual statement that is contained within the image. βcommand 21:08, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

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Xenophobia
Hi, I noticed your contribution to the Australia section, and I reverted it in the hope that it would be removed to the discussion section, not because I neccessarily disagree with it. As for being unsourced, you will notice at the top of the aricle that the whole article is largely unsourced. I look forward to finding sources to the Australia section which I largely rewrote about a month ago, and any relevant changes that ought to be made, but I would prefer that it was done in consensus and not degenerate into an edit war. So I propose that we keep future edit proposals on the Australia section to the talk page. thanks. --58.172.251.46 (talk) 11:05, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your message. I'm a bit puzzled, as the version you reverted to is the last one by me. Were you intending to rever it to a previous one, or do you agree with my last edit? Either way, I'm happy to discuss the sentence on the talk page but I don't think it has been the subject of an edit war - it was added by an anon IP, I modified the language to make it more neutral, and its remained in that form since.


 * I also agree the entire article is largely unsourced. Fact tags on the tops of sections might be something to consider instead of next to individual sentences. Xenophobia is an oft-discussed topic, so we could also both work on finding sources for the claims. Euryalus (talk) 21:09, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Roy Stewart (surfer)
A tag has been placed on Roy Stewart (surfer) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Travis Thurston +  18:49, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
The place would be a much better one if that sort of note was done like that more often - thank you - as for old debates on the same topic - there should be an australian project sub page please do not reinvent the wheel - the following precedents have been established SatuSuro 04:27, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

hist places = very important point - i could fill a page of text with my misgivings and etc about the interlink between fed - state - local gov and the issues that arise - gotta get off - might get back to you at some point later today - cheers SatuSuro 00:38, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Abstaining - decided to, have very strong POV about issues re defining heritage at local, state and fed levels - maybe will watch the talk page for a while - so as not to be disruptive of the evolving project - SatuSuro 05:55, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

OK Sydney project was been bugged by some enthusiasts going out and taking photos of oldish buildings and making claims for them here on WP - it smells as there are no criteria being adequately applied (i didnt follow it closely though) - similarly - the politics of inclusion and exclusion criteria at all 3 levels also smell - engineers self nominate their great dams in western tasmania against their own criteria (no overall assessment re the utility and other criteria) - whereas the country they have despoiled is equally nominatable (ok the western fringe of the world heritage area has some very difficult issues admittably)- in the places/building thingo - there is a lot of grey area stuff in the nomination and exclusion at all three levels - mainly the capacity of political interference - there are the feel good and baby kissing type of nominations that go through at all levels and there is little issue with any contestation.

Then the far more interesting items are the abandoned nominations, and the fought ones and the ones with the classic bulldozers in the night events (Brisbane was famous for this during the jbp era for instance) - nah its too easy for the easy stuff - but the edges, the margins and the grey areas are gonna be the challenge - it could be a separate article within the project - something like 'failed and disputed heritage' (the barracks arch here in perth is classic weird compromise example) and the need for such an article to exist would be a good way to fend off cynics like self seeking out exceptions to a very mixed bag of 'stars' - and the long list of lost items in western australia and tasmania that i know of - that could have been heritage listed, but oops they no longer exist :) SatuSuro 06:22, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

RfA
Hi Euryalus! Thank you very much for your support and insight in my RfA, which passed yesterday. I hope not to let you and the others down and use the tools for the benefit of the project. On a side note, it's interesting you commented on the WikiProject issue, because I don't think most !voters understood what I meant by needing the tools for the WikiProject. I definitely did not mean that I'd use them in conflict of interest articles, but rather in 'complex' transliteration-related moves (you'd be surprised how many cases there are), and other similar things where admin tools would simply make it easier and smoother for me to contribute to the WP Israel, which I value very much. Cheers, Ynhockey (Talk) 20:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

RfA nom
 Hesperian would like to nominate you to become an administrator. Please visit Requests for adminship to see what this process entails, and then contact Hesperian to accept or decline the nomination. A page for your nomination at Requests for adminship/ . If you accept the nomination, you must state and sign your acceptance. You may also choose to make a statement and/or answer the optional questions to supplement the information your nominator has given. Once you are satisfied with the page, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so. Strongly endorse this nomination and will add my support when and if it is transcluded at RfA. You would make a top-notch admin. Good luck! -- Mattinbgn\talk 03:12, 5 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, that's that then. Good luck. Hesperian 03:32, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I was the same... but not for long. You'll sson remember plenty of things to do that are more enjoyable than tracking that page. Hesperian 03:50, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Your RFA
Best wishes for your RFA --  Tinu  Cherian  - 05:54, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Leslie Haylen
Several months after your message, I can finally reply. (Sorry. I've been on wikibreak.) I have no problem with moving this page to "Les Haylen" if that is the more common name. Can't help with the birthplace, I'm afraid. Frickeg (talk) 05:34, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Cischelalocuat edit for the Carl Stephenson bio
Dear Euryalus,

Please note that all of the changes made lately to the Carl Stephenson bio are fully credible, and if evidence is needed, it can be arranged. He is an instrumentalist of orchestral and jazz styles of music primarily at this juncture, much of which will be offered in the future after he earns his Bachelors in the Arts. He and the band "Alder Ensemble" make music stands and instruments from found lumber, cans, paint, and paper mache.

He is currently working with two non profit organizations, Pour La Terre (France) and the Tree of Life Guardianship (America) for educational purposes regarding the environment.

to get to the point of the matter, He needs a level of privacy and faith from the other Wikipedia authors, since there is so much incorrect information out there. Please notify us via the talk page before making any changes in the future. That will help us keep everybody in the know.

You are all darlings!

peace and love

CishelalocuatCischelalocuat (talk) 09:09, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

look up www.myspace.com/alderdancemusic for some fun music and videos


 * Thanks for your comments. As this discussion is specifically about the Carl Stephenson article, I've replied at Talk:Carl Stephenson (producer) instead of here. Euryalus (talk) 21:12, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Isaac Isaacs is now ACOTF
Hi. I have finally rolled over the WP:ACOTF for yesterday. The new collaboration is Isaac Isaacs, which you voted for. Please help to improve it in any way you can. Thanks. --Scott Davis Talk 12:53, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Doh!
My apologies for the mis-cat. I saw 87/0/1 and assumed your was one of those ancient RFAs that passed unanimously! Good luck and all.  MBisanz  talk 13:40, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * At (94/0/2) now, I wish it reaches WP:100 before closing --  Tinu  Cherian  - 19:22, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

what i am writing about prehen is an old tale. and it is true. i think i would know i do live there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by OzBhoy (talk • contribs) 20:18, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

You are now an administrator
Congratulations, I have just closed your RfA as successful and made you an administrator. Take a look at the administrators' how-to guide and the administrators' reading list if you haven't read those already. Also, the practice exercises at the new admin school may be useful. If you have any questions, get in touch on my talk page. WJBscribe (talk) 03:08, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Goodonyamate. Hesperian 03:21, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Congrats, just remember WP:DDTMP (with additional haha Julian) :P RockManQ (talk) 03:24, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * zomg . Well anyway, congrats on passing! –Juliancolton Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  03:26, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Congratulations on your successful RFA and best wishes for future -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 03:25, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Congrats!!! Ecoleetage (talk) 03:56, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! I'm glad I voted for you 3 times :) If you need any help, feel free to ask anyone but me, as I'm inept. :P Just kidding (sorta)! Cheers,  Master of Puppets  <sub style="color:#7d7d7d">Call me MoP! :)  04:33, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Just four short of the ton! Its a bit of a nerve-wracking experience the first time you use the tools as you wait for the flak to fly back but its all good. Congrats -- Mattinbgn\talk 04:35, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Congratulations and here's one for your celebration [[Image:Icon beer.gif]]-- VS talk 10:21, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Congrats! I'm extremly please that you passed with so many votes. hope to be hearing from you in the future. Congrats!!!-- [ Elite Rhodes  ] [ Talk ] 10:28, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Well done! SatuSuro 11:20, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Congrats. Feel free to swing by for advice anytime.  –Moondyne 11:28, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Well done, we already have a padded cell booked for the 29th, but we can make arrangements for anytime of the year except Chirstmas day and Good Friday. Dont worry about about needing a gentle push if you make a silly mistake theres already a gaggle of gooses ready squawk until the cows come home. If you need advice just yell out, I'm normally lurking in the bushes somewhere camera at the ready. Gnangarra 12:30, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you all very much for your kind words and your support during the RfA, and especially to Hesperian for the nomination and advice along the way. Perhaps also a special thanks to Master of Puppets who went so far as to !vote three times. Odd, but flattering.


 * I've now vanished into the mountainous admin reading list to avoid all the famous newbie mistakes, after which it will be back to editing as usual. You should all feel free to stop by and offer any advice/abuse/gentle guidance as required, and thanks again. Euryalus (talk) 23:04, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * D If you need any help, I'm sure I speak for everyone here when I say you're welcome to ask us no matter how small you may think the issue is. And once again congrats!


 * P.S. Sorry if the triple-vote was creepy, but I get random bouts of silliness sometimes. <tt>>_></tt> Cheers, Master of Puppets  <sub style="color:#7d7d7d">Call me MoP! :)  01:18, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Not at all. It was a brief moment of entertainment in a famously grim process. Euryalus (talk) 01:19, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * And congatulations from me too ...well done. Melburnian (talk) 01:48, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Well done! Advance Australia!  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model ) 06:50, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations mate. I've not been around a lot lately and unfortunately I wasn't aware that your RfA was active until some joker (*cough* Orderinchaos *cough*) decided to tell me when it was already finished! So you can thank that troublemaker for doing you out of an extra support! ;-) hehe Seriously, though, I'm very happy to see that your RfA was successful and I regret I was not able to add my two cents in support. Congratulations and welcome to the team. If I can ever help with anything, please don't hesitate to ask. Best wishes for your adminship and future editing. Regards, Sarah 14:38, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Congrats mate, and thanks very much for the nice note - was much appreciated! :) Always willing to help if you have any questions. Orderinchaos 14:39, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

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Regarding this
The article is pure hoax. the person who created it is probably the person in it. Why doesn't wikipedia have a speedy delete for hoax. notability is NOT asserted because the person isn't really an actor, just some idiot who thought it would be fun to add hoax information to wikipedia. the user who created that page vandalised pages here, here, and here isn't there and speedy tag for blatant hoaxes?? - -' The Spook (TALK) (Share the Love with Barnstars) 03:29, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Replied on your talk page. Euryalus (talk) 03:38, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * i re-tagged it with CSDA7 after deleting the part of the article that was a blatant hoax... now it's sure to be speedied.. and i'm all for speedying stuff because afd's take to long... - -' The Spook (TALK) (Share the Love with Barnstars) 03:41, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * And after a minute or two.. it's deleted now. - -' The Spook (TALK) (Share the Love with Barnstars) 03:49, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

DC Drive (band) page
Hi Euryalus,

Thanks for commenting back to me. I actually didn't know most of the text was copyrighted- I'll fix that as soon as I can. The place I got it from was Wikipedia's Adrenaline article. I had no idea it was from a different site. Maybe the Adrenaline article should be marked for copyrighted text too. I don't know how to do this, though.

Thanks, --Beanpole136 (talk) 02:42, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

EDIT: Could you send me the text the page had before it was deleted?

Thanks for everything you have done. I will re-do the page under my heading first and remove the Youtube links before posting the page again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beanpole136 (talk • contribs) 21:02, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Good job!
Good job, blocking this Winson1 from editing. These guys just get warning after warning and will learn that nothing happens, so they go on an vandalising pages.

PS Nice userpage, by the way!

Warrington (talk) 10:08, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Endeavor
No problem with the refs, I just saw them and decided to fix them, as it would take just as much typing to describe what I wanted you to fix as to just do it myself. I've replied to your previous question on the GA Review page, and I'm currently in the process of passing the article to GA status, so it should show up as a GA in just a few minutes. Let me know if you have any further questions. Dana boomer (talk) 02:19, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Help with user: 203.87.194.142
I don't know about user. I've reverted his seemingly uninformed edits, but when I decided to revert his edits and gave him a 3RR warning, he suddenly reported me to WP:AIV in seemingly ill-advised fashion. Can you help me on this guy? (I've also wrote this on WP:AN/I, but I've also decided to tell this to you as well, so you will know.) - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 09:03, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree with Tikiwont's response at AN/I - this isn't about vandalism, its a content dispute. However, I agree with you on the content issue, and have added my opinion at Talk:Sasami: Magical Girls Club. Without reliable sources, we cannot include a statement about Anri's feelings for Tsukasa. There may well be reliable sources supporting the claim, but none have been provided and until they are there seems no justification for adding the text to the article. Euryalus (talk) 11:04, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

seems to stand by his edits on Sasami: Magical Girls Club, and I've reverted it. I've left him a reminder, but I'm sure he would report again me to WP:AIV. Can you also help me in dealing this guy? - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 11:03, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Grand Cross of the German Eagle
Thanks for your response! I've responded to your message on my talk page here.(talk)raghuvansh(contribs) 05:46, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Interesting that you should mention the list of recipients, because that's what brought me to that particular article in the first place. The Ford Motor Company article said that Henry Ford was the only American recepient of the award. To check, I came to the award page and found a few other Americans there as well, including the likes of Lindbergh and Thomas Watson. I deleted the "only American" bit from the Ford article and put the unreferenced template on the Grand Cross article precisely to avoid a defamatory situation - you have to admit, Henry Ford seems considerably worse if he were the only American winner, as opposed to when he has some equally illustrious company.
 * Would it be okay if I go through the article history, dig out the user(s) who put the lists there and drop them a line, asking them to put references there? After all, burden of evidence lies on them.(talk)raghuvansh(contribs) 12:56, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Fagbug
Who are you? I contribute to Wikipedia infrequently, but when I do, it is in good conscience and with a mind toward representing things as they are. I am sorry I did not log back on prior to the deletion of my "Fagbug" entry. Suggesting that Fagbug and Erin Davies' work is "unlikely to make an enduring contribution to the fight against hate crimes or the advocacy of equal rights" is exemplary of your ignorance and of your contribution to the PROBLEM, and not the solution. Go pick on articles that really aren't worthy of Wikipedia representation (or expand the article of your namesake!), and keep your opinions on which kind of activism "qualifies" as "an enduring contribution" to yourself.

Your narcissism and sense of entitlement will be sure to serve you in the long run. Think twice before being such an asshole next time. No matter how small the effort, no matter the scope or depth of involvement by the press--ANY action that fights for the freedoms and rights of others, is an enduring and important contribution. Don't you think that Wikipedia, in and of itself, poses a limit?

Atsantes (talk) 18:58, 1 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your message. The article was deleted eleven months ago following a unanimous discussion at Articles for deletion/Fagbug. I neither proposed it for deletion, nor deleted it - I simply commented during the discussion. If you disagree with the deletion, there is a process called Deletion Review which allows the decision to be revisited. I suggest you might like to take this issue there.


 * I agree with you that even minor press mentions on human rights issues are important, but this is an encyclopedia not a campaign tool. There are fairly specific notability criteria for a Wikipedia article, and Fagbug didn't meet it. Like every other editor, your views on thse criteria are welcome at Wikipedia talk:Notability or the village pump.


 * Finally please note that personal attacks like the ones you make above don't do much to help your argument. Feel free to comment on article content whenever you like, but there's no need to hurl abuse at article contributors. Euryalus (talk) 21:59, 1 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I just noticed this thread while commenting below, and Googled "fagbug" out of curiosity. It appears that this might actually be a good candidate for deletion review, since quite a few sources seem to have appeared since last spring. --Fullobeans (talk) 01:37, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Wow, that's a pretty good source list. Most of them post-date the article deletion in January so they wouldn't have affected its deletion at the time, but there's enough there to create a new article. There's nothing especially to add from the previous version but seeing as I appear to be blamed for its deletion, I'll show some team spirit and create a stub using these sources. Unless of course you beat me to it ... Euryalus (talk) 02:06, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I've added it to my To Do list. We can have a lazy race to see which of us gets around to it first. --Fullobeans (talk) 23:26, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I win! --Fullobeans (talk) 10:21, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

One of these things is not like the other
Hey there! Thanks for catching my doppelganger so quickly. --Fullobeans (talk) 01:25, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * No worries. Your name was familiar as a past editor of HM Bark Endeavour. And his talk page was a bit of a giveaway too ... Euryalus (talk) 01:32, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks...
I'd promised myself not to do any NPP, but heck, I can't help it. It just bugs me when someone doesn't read the rules, thereby creating more work for the admins and patrollers. Thanks for the nice message. In the meantime, we have the site's biggest pain, User:MascotGuy, returning with another sockpuppet farm: User:Wedding Bell Blues Guy. Keeping an eye on him yet again. Four years, more than one thousand socks and counting. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 03:26, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

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Ah, welcome to the idiocy. Lots of info at WP:LTA/MG. "Guy" has become his favorite suffix after another user nicknamed him "MascotGuy." He generally starts an account, creates as many socks from the main account as the system will allow and either not edit at all...or start in on his favorite targets listed on the page. He's apparently a scourge on other wikis and message boards aas well. As near as we can figure, he's an autistic teen editing out of San Diego. He isn't malicious, but the work he creates is just nuts. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 03:40, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Glad to be of assistance. Glad you enjoyed the cookie...! --PMDrive1061 (talk) 03:42, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

"Years" is right. I was the poor slob who contacted his mom under my old username since one of his early socks was her e-mail address. I need to e-mail Jimbo and charge him for the time. :) --PMDrive1061 (talk) 03:52, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Interwiki link to Inter-Services Intelligence
Hi, I have started translating the article about the Inter-Services Intelligence into Norwegian bokmål/riksmål. Alas, for some reason it is locked, so I am not able to add the interwiki link to the Norwegian article. I have requested that on the articles talk page but no action has been taken. Could you as admin take care of it? Best regards, Ulflarsen (talk) 11:29, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Done. Let me know if it works. Euryalus (talk) 11:38, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, it works just fine! Best regards. Ulflarsen (talk) 11:45, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Recent IP block oddness
Hello. You recently blocked an IP, 89.167.221.3 for vandalism. The block is fine, but the IP keeps posting that somehow the address has blocked users not involved with the vandalism (and claim that it doesn't show up as their WAN IP). This may be because the ISP is not properly forwarding XFF information, I don't know. Could you look at the complaints and if you deem them valid, unblock or drop the account creation flag on the IP? Thanks. Protonk (talk) 05:22, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The explanation seems a bit odd but I'm happy to accept in good faith that its correct. Also, there have been some worthwhile edits from the IP, suggesting more than one user in recent times. Unblock done, and thanks for coming by to ask. Euryalus (talk) 06:01, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Not a problem. Thanks for taking a look. Protonk (talk) 06:12, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

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User:Souljasilver
Hi, User:Souljasilver has removed the AfD template yet again from Earl Gilkey using his IP address. I feel its clear now that this user is never going to get the message and is only going to continue to be disruptive until the AfD discussion concludes. Thanks JS (chat) 16:45, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, hopefully this will be the end of the matter. But i'll let you know! :-) JS (chat) 21:01, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Anthony St Clair-Erskine, 6th Earl of Rosslyn
Please restore this article that you deleted under A3. The article definitely qualifies under that criterion but could easily be turned into a valid stub like I did here. I'll add the content if you undelete the article. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:44, 7 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Restored per request. Can't guaranteee it won't be deleted again under A3, so it might be worth moving what content you intend to use to a userpage. Good luck with it. Euryalus (talk) 05:01, 7 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for restoring the article! I've added content to the article and have placed a tag. I don't think the article needs to be moved to my userspace since it has enough content to pass as a valid stub. Regards, Cunard (talk) 05:11, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

got a question...
Just found this message from you.

Current revision as of 22:00, 1 November 2007

[edit] November 2007

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did to Clifford Possum Tjapaltjarri. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Euryalus 22:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Just wondering how come i got this? i never even had a wikipedia account in 2007! and i definately never been on that page b4. Its abit late to ask about this cause apparently this was done 1 year ago but just asking how i got this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.172.49.197 (talk) 09:51, 8 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, and thanks for your message. On 1 November 2007 this IP did this edit, which I then reverted as vandalism. People's IP addresses change over time, either every time they log in ("Dynamic IPs") or less frequently ("static IPs"). More detail can be found at IP address.


 * Probably, in 2007 this IP address was assigned to another user, who vandalised the above article. If you edit using an IP address instead of creating an account, you'll probably routinely receive messages or warnings meant for someone else. Of course you're welcome to go on editing without creating an account, but if you would prefer not to receive messages for others (and risk getting blocked if they vandalise articles), creating your own unique account is probably a good idea.


 * Let me know if I haven't explained this very clearly, or if I can help in any other way. And don't worry about the 2007 warning - it was long ago and no one will hold it against you especially as it appears it was some other editor. Euryalus (talk) 10:51, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Portable drilling rig
In regards to Portable drilling rig, perhaps a criteria would be "blatant advertisement", since it was created by and is basically a write-up for the company Drilling Fab. -- <font color="darkblue" size="2" face="Constantia">moe.RON  Let's talk  21:52, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

User talk:64.179.144.228
Hello. When I went to save my block message on User talk:64.179.144.228, I got an edit conflict with your block message. Since I was the admin to actually block this IP, I replaced your message with my own. --Kralizec! (talk) 02:23, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, thanks for that. We were both trying to block him at the same time. Euryalus (talk) 02:26, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * No worries. However it is kinda odd as it took me at least five minutes to do a couple of whois lookups and add the relevant template header to the page.  Oh well, it all worked out in the end.  --Kralizec! (talk) 02:31, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I had several windows open at the same time - the "block user" window, the "edit talk" window for the IP, and a few others. I clicked on block user then went to the "edit talk" window and posted the block message. It was only a while later, when closing some redundant windows that I realised the "block user" hadn't actually occurred as the user was already blocked. My PC is also not exactly lightning speed - for some reason Wikipedia (bit not other websites) has started to run very slow the last few days. But as you say, it all worked out in the end. Euryalus (talk) 02:53, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I know what you mean when you talk about your computer not being lightening last: I am still on dial-up! --Kralizec! (talk) 20:23, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

T Love deleted article
Hi I don't understand why you have deleted the entry only minutes after I added the {hangon} tag. This was obviously a work in progress. I was adding references to it while you removed it. It was far from being perfect but 24 hours didn't leave me too much room for improvement.

SLurg (talk) 02:27, 10 December 2008 (UTC)


 * It was deleted because it was a copyright violation from here. Most of it was a direct cut and paste from an apparently copyrighted source, which isn't acceptable for a Wikipedia article. I notice you've recreated the page, but the "History" section remains almost word-for-word the Astralwerks version.


 * This problem is easily resolved - you just need to go through the article text and put it in your own words. Otherwise it risks being deleted a second time.


 * Let me know if you disagree with the above, or if I can help in any way. Euryalus (talk) 02:48, 10 December 2008 (UTC)


 * You are absolutely right, I've based the article on that text that was sent as a press release to journalist with her first CD, since it was quite factual. I was not sure if press releases are subject to copyright, but I guess it's better to start from scratch anyway.


 * Also, should I link the bio as a reference ? Or I should simply mention it in the External Links section ?


 * I was actually editing the page while you were deleting it, that's why it was recreated. You may remove it, I will rewrite on my User Page, and improve it until it meets the Wikipedia criteria (which is what I should have done in the first place...).


 * Thanks SLurg (talk) 15:04, 10 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, and thanks for the response. The press release is a primary source as the content was most likely directly provided by the subject or by a source with a direct connection with the subject (her PR agency). You can use it as a reference for "descriptive" claims that someone could verify themselves if they wanted to (the example the comments on a book dustjacket can be used as a source for a plot summary, but not for the statement that the book is a bestseller). In this case the press release is a possible source for the fact the Urban Prop album never appeared (but not why it never appeared), or for the existence of the Return Of The B-Girl EP (but not whether it was successful).


 * If you don't end up using details from the release as a source for some minor piece of info, you might consider listing it in "External links" so readers of the article have somewhere to find out more. However, better than a link to the press release would be a link to an official website, if she has one. There are reasonably strict criteria for what should be an external link - see WP:EL for details.


 * The article hasn't yet been deleted again, so please feel free to go on working on it. If it is deleted let me know and I'll provide you a copy of the non-copyvio parts of it for your userpsace so you can add to it there. Euryalus (talk) 21:33, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Let me try to rephrase this so it won't be INSTANTLY DELETED
I think you should spend more time and consideration before deleting articles which users have put much time into. I feel like you needlessly deleted an article on the band "Kraak and Smaak", and now the largely popular band has no article, and there is no reasonable explanation why the article was deleted except for that it didn't meet "inclusion guidelines (insert useless reference number here)", which probably boils down to the fact that the band was thought to not be important or popular enough for an article, or that the article wasn't well written enough for the best around here. I think you should take more into consideration that admins are not "in authority" at all, and that you should consult others' views before you toss an article or two, and that you should write explanations for your actions which are more specific and meaningful, and which aren't quite as easy to attribute to simply taste.

134.121.124.138 (talk) 09:11, 13 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your message. The article that was deleted was three lines long. The first line was "Means crunchy and tasty", the second line was "Awesome band from Holland" and the third line was "best peformance ever:" with a date and location in Kansas. With respect, the article provided no information on the band at all, did not explain why they were notable and certainly didn't take its author more than 20 seconds to write.


 * The stated deletion reason included a link to this, which explains the reason for deletion was the article did not outline why the subject was important or significant. If you want to create a new version of the article go right ahead, but it will need to include an assertion of notability beyond being "crunchy and tasty" or having once been to Kansas. Something about the band's history. its musical style or influences, awards or chart successes, that kind of thing would be good. The previous article contained none of these. Euryalus (talk) 18:34, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

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Euryalus...
I checked User talk:VicoMaster daily since I left a message there. Now, the user has replied and requested to be unblocked. As you are the admin who replied before, I'd like to notify you about this. Thanks. --Mark Chung (talk) 09:02, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for letting me know. I've watchlisted the page now, and will be interested to see what VicoMaster produces in response to Sandstein's suggestion. Putting his money where his mouth is, if thats the expression. Euryalus (talk) 10:52, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

apologies
Euryalus,

Thanks for your note. Many apologies for my inappropriate response to your original concern(s) with the page, and thanks for your comments.

I just saw the new page tonight! Hopefully those with more finesse can work on it and make it all it can be. :D

Atsantes (talk) 11:28, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


 * No need for any apologies - I know exactly what its like to have hard work on an article deleted. Its actually User:Fullobeans that deservs any thanks - he did the work, mostly using references listed here. And for no reason other than he became aware of the earlier deletion and thought it would add to Wikipedia to have a page on the Fagbug. So - I'm just the messenger, any thanks belongs to him :) Euryalus (talk) 11:33, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Righto!
What a brilliant idea. You're really smarter than him/her! By the way, are you a inclusionist, a deletionist or a precisionist? --Mark Chung (talk) 11:53, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The idea was Sandstein's, I was just the person who previously declined the unblock. And I don't have a view either way on labels like inclusionist/deletionist. Euryalus (talk) 20:16, 28 December 2008 (UTC)