User talk:Evelyn Z

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Palo Verde
You posted a Peruvian palo verde in the North American palo verde article. Which is the scientific name of the Peruvian tree? Jclerman 23:35, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi Jclerman, Regarding the scientific name of the Palo verde, its Parkinsonia aculeata. --Evelyn Zuñiga 22:26, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Phragmites
You posted an image of "Caña Brava, a Peruvian tree". However, I don't think that Phragmites spp. are trees but reeds. Which is the scientific name of the "Caña Brava"? Jclerman 00:07, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi Jclerman,

Regarding your request, I'm sending you the Scientific Name of this Peruvian plant: GYNERIUN SAGITTATUM and its Family name is POACEAE. I hope this might help you. If you have any further questions, let me know. Regards --Evelyn Zuñiga 22:23, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Photos from other websites
Hi Evelyn - thanks for your contributions, but please do not add photos taken from other websites in breach of their copyright, it is illegal to do so - thanks, MPF 10:10, 18 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I think I've used pictures that are free to use (I mean that are from General Public license). If I'm wrong, can you explain me then, what's the procedure because I guess I'm a little confused. And also what or how do I do with the pictures I take myself. I mean I also have some pictures in my computer that I would like to add to wikipedia common. Are they GNU too? if not, can yu explain me the procedure too?? Thanks a lot --Evelyn Zuñiga 17:53, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I wish I had understood the whole procedure. I only uploaded one image from the web, and I tried to fit one of the templates offered plus some editing explaining who and how gave me permission. About those photos that you took yourself, clearly you have several options: (a) keep the copyright and authorize wiki to show them, (b) put them completely in the public domain (options something like GNU, GPL, or similar, (c) etc. I wish I would remember the acronyms and that they  would be better described... I hope User:MPF will clarify the options and how to proceed.


 * Also while USA images which were funded by federal money are automatically in the public domain, it appears that South American legislation is different as I heard from some colleagues in Argentina commenting in the Wikipedia in Spanish. Peru might be different, I don't know.


 * Feel free to ask more questions. Sometimes I have answers ;-) Saludos, Juan Carlos, en Tucson, AZ. Jclerman 18:49, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Amancae image
Can you get the (c) info? Otherwise Wikipedia admins want to delete it. Jclerman 01:00, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I've sent email to the website asking for permission for this image. And that was because in their website they say "Todos los derechos reservados" que es el equivalente a "copyrigth". No reply yet. Jclerman 18:32, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Spanish interwikis
Excuse me, but what are you doing? I don't understand the interwiki link you added to Avocado, linking to es:Palto, which doesn't exist. There's already a link to Persea americana there.

Confused, GTBacchus(talk) 22:31, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Persea Americana is the scientific name, however the common name of this fruit is palto or palta. And If there's already an article about it, maybe it woul be a better idea to change the title and add the common name too. Don't you think? I'm not familirize doing this kind of title change, but maybe you cant tell me how. Thanks anyway --Evelyn Zuñiga 22:36, 24 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I can probably answer whatever questions you have, if I can understand what you're asking. It's true, the avocado has common names in spanish, like Palto and Aguacate, bu in the spanish language Wikipedia, the article is located under the title Persea americana.  Click there, and you'll see it.  Maybe that article should be moved to a different title - you'd have to take that up with the people at the Spanish Wiki, but as long as that's where the article is, that's how we need to link to it.  (I've just created a redirect from Palto to Persea americana.)


 * It's great to add links between different language Wikipedias, but please be careful when you're doing it. For instance, look at Quinoa, which you just edited.  See how it says "español" over in the margin twice?  That's wrong; it should be there once.  Try clicking on both - see how the one you added just redirects to the one that was already there?  That's redundant, please don't add redundant interwiki links.


 * I hope I'm making sense... Please let me know if you have any questions. -GTBacchus(talk) 22:48, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Suggestion
Anytime you add a link to an article, click on it to make sure it works before moving on. -GTBacchus(talk) 22:58, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice =)

Omagua
Ok, I'm sorry for being rude in that edit summary; I shouldn't do that.

For one example, you changed palms to palms. The former link points to Arecaceae, the palm family, which includes all palm trees. The latter link is red, because there's no article at Palmeras (Phytolephas).

The same is true for orchids and orchids : Orchidaceae is an article about the orchid family, Orquídea (Cattleya rex) uses the spanish word for orchid, and again, doesn't point to an article.

Why are those red links better than links to the families in which these creatures are contained? -GTBacchus(talk) 23:46, 24 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, I think the answer to that question is because if you put the general classification, that doesn't mean they are really in the place we are mentioning. Just to put an example, for the word palms, if you link it to Arecaceae, there you will have all types of palms that we do not have in Peru. The most common one that we have in here are the Phytolephas. So it' more specific and closest to reality, that let the reader's imagination flows thinking that here you will find if not all, but at least more than one specie (which sometimes may be true and others not). So it's better, I guess, to go by reality. If there's no article yet, don't worry. As soon as I get a little less busier, I will begin my research about them and I will write the articles myself =)


 * Ok, I understand where you're coming from. Let me try something, and you're welcome to revert it if you don't like it.  I want to give the readers links to follow, so they can learn more, but I want to keep more specific links for filling in later... so check my next edit, and see what you think. -GTBacchus(talk) 00:03, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Gracias a Usted, tambien
I'm glad that I was able to help. I'm actually very interested in the variety of living creatures we've got on this planet, and I'm enjoying the articles you're contributing. You're certainly bringing valuable knowledge and research to the project.

I have been editing here for about three years, and I've learned quite a few tricks and techniques, so please feel free to ask me any questions you have about how the Wiki works – I know some of the details can be confusing. As I see more articles around that you write, I'll certainly try to contribute anything I can that's helpful, and if I make a mistake or misunderstand something, please just let me know. GTBacchus(talk) 20:00, May 25, 2006 (UTC)

De nada (You're welcome) and thanks a lot!!! It's very nice to know that you can count on people here that can make your articles be better. I tried to do my best writing in English, but I do understand I may have some mistakes because this is not my native language, so I'm sorry about that. If there are some grammar or spelling mistakes, please feel free to correct them. I would definetly like to write more articles but my job is not giving me enough time to do it. I actually have some questions (because one of things I want is to edit my user page and I don't know exactly where to begin or how to do it), if you can help me giving me some data as the first step, that would be more than welcome =)


 * Well, it looks like you've figured out the basics of putting a userpage together. (The best method is to see something you like on someone else's page, and then shamelessly copy it!)  The more time you spend here, the more you'll learn, and soon you'll be giving advice to new users.  Don't worry too much about the spelling and grammar; your English is quite good, and when you do make mistakes, there are always people happy to proofread each other's work.  We're all learning from each other, which is one of the great things about this project. -GTBacchus(talk) 23:29, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Yunga
Something about links... pepper tree is never going to be a working link, because we'll never have an article called Molle (Schinus molle). The reason I say that, is that it doesn't conform with our naming conventions. Articles about species are titled according to the common name or the scientific name, but not both.

Another example: you changed


 * lúcuma (Lúcuma obovata)

to


 * lucumo tree

... but lúcuma is an existing article, about the correct species (this link shows that Pouteria lucuma is the same species as Lúcuma obovata) and Lúcumo (Lúcuma obovata) is another name that doesn't fit with our naming conventions, so that link will stay red, and readers won't be able to find the lúcuma article. Am I making sense? -GTBacchus(talk) 20:22, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, you make sense. But I'm pretty sure I've seen some articles where the title states the common and the scientific name at the same time. I don't have an example right now, but as soon as I get into one again, I will let you know.

Regarding the Molle (Schinus molle), I did change it because the article called Schinus is not the plant that we have in the Yunga Region. Please do not think I'm changing it because no reason. I read it and, even the picture, is not like that plant. That's why I did, much better to say create, the other link.

Regarding the Lucuma obovata and the Pouteria Lucuma, I was pretty sure that the first one is the scientific name of the fruit but the second one is the name of the tree. But, just to be sure, I will recheck them. I saw the link that you gave me and you are right in there, that article shows both as the same plant, but I just want to double check if the plant (meaning the tree) and fruit can actually have the same name. If they don't, then I will think that it would be better to have an article called Pouteria Lucuma and inside of that, a link that goes to Lucuma Obovata. Please let me know your opinion. Thanks


 * I'll trust you on the Molle. If you can find evidence that Pouteria Lucuma and Lucuma Obovata are different things, then we should defninitely have different articles.  I know scientific names are prone to changing, as biologists update their knowledge of phylogeny, so I wouldn't be surprised if one of the names is just an older version, as is the case with the Trichocereus puquiensis which was renamed as Echinopsis peruviana when several genera were subsumed into Echinopsis (see Echinopsis, where we find that this change was not uncontroversial!). -GTBacchus(talk) 21:59, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

User page
Click on User:Evelyn Z and edit it. Tnat's the beginning. I put a couple of sentences that you should delete and write your own. Jclerman 21:47, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. You definetely give me a beginning step but I think I didn't explain myself so well. What I tried to say is that I'm new in everything related to edition, and pictures and putting dialogs boxes etc. I've figured out some things but writing articles, but I guess doing a user page is a little bit different. As GTBacchus told me, I saw other user's pages and tried to copy some things (I'm not so happy with that because I really want to learn how) but, still it's a beginning =)


 * Evelyn, you might find this page helpful: Uploading images. As for user pages versus articles, all the same tools work for both, but on userpages we aren't presenting encyclopedic material, so we're a lot more free as far as content and layout. -GTBacchus(talk) 15:37, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

HI!

Well, I only know how to write a very simple page, see User:Jclerman ;-) You have proven to be more advanced...

From your sentence I lived in the USA for a two years is not clear if you mean one of these:
 * I lived during two years in the USA and moved to ...
 * I have lived in the USA since two years ago ... 

I was wondering whether you are back in Peru. In that case you could phone peruecologico. They have not responded to my request about the (c) of their amancae picture.

Since you are interested in translation, see some horrendous examples in the Spanish wiki, the page titled: Discusión:Helio-3. Saludos, Juan Carlos. Please, always sign your messages with ~ Jclerman 15:54, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

You're right. I'm sorry I've forgotten to sign my messages =( I will figure out was the phone number of peruecologico and I will call them. Do I have to aske something specific if they do agree to let me use their pictures?? --Evelyn Zuñiga 22:04, 26 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Don't worry. We all forget things. About the picture(s) better check with GTBacchus. I've only uploaded one and the authorization was not to make it available to the wiki but only in my article and with due credit. See the caption in the Amancay image. Then click on the image and see how I tried to adapt the wiki template, badly. I understood that if they allow free GNU or similar permission then you can upload it to the wiki commons. Otherwise just to the wiki. I don't remember what did I write to peruecologico. I did it in a "feedback" form, I think ;-) so I suggest you check with BTBacchus that seems to know a lot and is very friendly with us "newbies"... Meanwhile I put a link to the amancae image. Jclerman 22:23, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * If they confirm their permission by email, you can paste a clip as I did with the image I got. Wiki doesn't seem to require "hard proof", it seems, from what I've seen. But I might be wrong... ;-) Jclerman 22:27, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

minor typos
Tranlating carreer should be Translating career Jclerman 22:44, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Images

 * Using images on your page that we already have here is even easier: for instance the code:


 * [[File:Capybara.jpg]]


 * inserts this:




 * If that image is too big, you can do something like:


 * Capybara.jpg


 * ...which does this:




 * Also, try clicking on any image to get to the image page, where you can find copyright information and see which articles use the image. I hope that helps get you started. -GTBacchus(talk) 15:42, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Palta species
Not only Persea americana es avocado. See, for other species,  Jclerman 09:39, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

This I know for sure, unlikely Persea Americana is the most common one in my country. I'm not sure if the others are here too, but I'll try to figure it out. =) --Evelyn Zuñiga 05:01, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Geography
Hi, Evelyn. I noticed Geography of Peru, and that it doesn't have any reference to Vidal and the eight regions. I think it would be good for that article to mention the regions, and link to their articles, but you would know far better than I how to work such reference into the existing text. I also found Altiplano, which seems to be a bit like Puna; I wonder if those articles should merge? -GTBacchus(talk) 00:54, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Actually the 8 regions and Mr. Vidal are well connected to the Geography of Peru. He was the one who propose that division according to the different kind of flora, fauna, climate and geographical altitude floors of our country. The reason you don't find so much information about it is because most people are used to talk about the three main regions (Coast, Highlands and Jungle) but it has to be known that this is an old division. New Regions are in the process to be created, but the ones I mentioned are still in used and defined our geography better. Maybe what we should do is to include this article (Physiographic Regions) in there too. What do you think?

Regarding the Altiplano, I don't think it would be a good idea to merge them. Altiplano is not a Region. We call the Altiplano to the department of Puno and its limits with our neighbour Bolivia. This part belongs to the Puna Region yes, but not all of them, just part of it. To be more clear, most of our departments have in them, two or three regions. Just to put an example, Lima, for instance, have Chala and Yunga Region in it.--Evelyn Zuñiga 04:18, 30 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I was thinking that the information you wrote at Category:Peruvian Physiographic Regions could be put into a proper article (as opposed to a category page); maybe merging it into the Geography of Peru article would be the way to go. I wonder if there's a Wikiproject relating to Peru?  I think I understand about Altiplano - that word is already used to designate a political region, which overlaps with the Puna geographic region, but isn't the same thing? -GTBacchus(talk) 04:24, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I got you about the Category. So how do I erase an article? I think I know hot to include in other, but to make it dissapear as category, I'm not sure about that. Regarding Altiplano and Puna, well the answer is simple (I guess). The reason that the immertion can not be possible is because Puna doesn't only include the Altiplano, also anothers departments. If the Puna Region will only include the part between Puno and its limits with Bolivia, the I'll agree, but it's not that way.--Evelyn Zuñiga 04:31, 30 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I think we should keep the category - it's good as a category - but move the content that's there, either into a new article, called Physiographic Regions of Peru, or into the existing Geography of Peru article. I think I'm understanding you about Altiplano; I don't think those articles need to merge. -GTBacchus(talk) 04:42, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Linking to es:
We don't have direct links to Spanish language articles. The best solution would be to create the English equivalent, even if it's just a few sentences, because it can always grow later. -GTBacchus(talk) 04:42, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Changing article titles
Hi Evelyn. The way we change titles of articles is by "moving" the page to a different title. You'll notice every article has a "move" link up at the top, after "edit" and "history". Just click on that, and it'll take you to a screen asking for the new title. If the new title is already taken, you may not be able to do the move, but an administrator (like myself) could help you in that case by deleting the page that's "in the way", if appropriate. I hope that helps. -GTBacchus(talk) 19:13, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

WP:Peru and Peru Portal
Hello, from viewing your edits and your userpage I thought you might be interested in checking out Portal:Peru and WikiProject Peru. We work on bringing Peruvian related articles up to par with other articles on Wikipedia and also do side projects (translating from Spanish Wikipedia, working on Collaborations, keeping the Peru Portal up to date, etc...). I see that you are relatively new to Wikipedia. If you have any technical questions don't hesitate to ask me. Bye.--Jersey Devil 00:25, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi Jersey Devil, thanks a lot for the invitation. I will definetely enjoy joining the Peruvian Portal. Thanks for your help. --Evelyn Zuñiga 17:06, 12 June 2006 (UTC)


 * You know, voting for the July collarboration is up at the WikiProject Peru. As a member of the project you are welcome to vote for any Peruvian related article you think should be heavily expanded.--Jersey Devil 23:13, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Departments, Regions, and Cities in Peru
Evelyn, I noticed you have renamed many of the city articles in Peru to Departments (such as Arequipa to Arequipa (Department of Peru)). However, these articles are about the cities, not the departments. There are separate articles about the regions of Peru, for example Arequipa (the city) vs. Arequipa Region. If Peru is no longer divided into regions, please consider renaming the region articles rather than the city articles.

It is also good to propose the move on the article's Talk Page before moving the article, so that other people can contribute their opinions.

Thanks for your contributions! Gsd97jks 19:05, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry for the mistakes. You are right next time I will put a comment in the talk page before renaming an article, but Peru is no longer divided by Region. Regions was actually a proposal that wasn't used for a long time because, sometimes joined more than one department. So, the 24 regions that are named in Peru's article are really departments. I will try to figure out how to improve these articles. Thanks --Evelyn Zuñiga 01:02, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Peru
Please understand, you're removing very large passages without offering any explanation, and that's a big reason why your edits are getting reverted. I encourage you to visit the article's talk page to build consensus before making further changes. Thank you for your time. Luna Santin 19:26, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi, I just wrote a message to the person who did the first reversal giving him my reasons User talk:Freakofnurture. I'm actually working on a better organization of this part of Peru's article. At least, wait for me to finished it please, and then before making the reversal, tell me your opinion or asked me about any doubts you will have. Thanks. --Evelyn Zuñiga 19:41, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Ahhh, I see. Sorry for the intrusion, hope things make sense for everybody, and just remember that leaving edit summaries is rarely ever a bad idea. In any case, feel free to let me know if you have any further questions, and thanks for your contributions. Luna Santin 19:44, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Yeap, now I can see the importance of that but... I'm still new at this matter of writing, improving or editing articles, so I do apologize for any mistakes I had, have or will have on my way. A class on how to edit summaries will be really great so if you have the chance and time, it would be wonderful. Thanks again. --Evelyn Zuñiga 19:47, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Regions of Peru Template
The regions of Peru template can be found at the following internal link: Template:Regions of Peru. Templates can be found simply by looking at an article, finding the template and putting "Template:" in front of it. For instance, if I found a template in an article called the page to it would be Template:Jersey Devil over all. One more thing is that you sould really enable your signature to have an internal link to your page. It makes it much easier for people to contact you. You might want to check on your "my preferences" to make sure that the phrase "raw signature" is not checked. Feel free to ask me any more questions whenever you have trouble, later.--Jersey Devil 01:42, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, I found the template you told me, but I still can't modify it. I want to add some information in this template Template:Peru region table like weather, temperature, road network, illiteracy rate, child's death rate and distance (from any province to the capital or nearest cities). I opened the edit page but I just freak out with so many symbols that I'm not sure to understand :(. Maybe you can help me a little bit more in this matter. Thanks. --Evelyn Zuñiga 01:47, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Inca empire intro
Hi... why do you keep adding back that paragraph to the Inca empire article? Almost all of it simply repeats information that's already in the other introductory paragraphs. If you like it so much, edit the other paragraphs so things aren't repeated and repeated and repeated. And the last paragraph is so vague as to be almost meaningless... what premodern empire isn't supported by mythology and dedicated to harmony between humans and gods? Zompist 20:07, 12 July 2006 (UTC)ç

Hi, before answering you, let me ak you one thing... where are your manners??? If you are in a bad mood, maybe it would be a better idea for you to relax first and then write somebody any questions or comments you may have. Passing to the article, I'm sorry but I've seen some vandalism made in it, and I do apologize because I didn't read the whole information first before reverted it. Still, if you read that paragraph, you will see that there are some information inside that are not in the introductory paragraph. For example the organization of the Tahuantinsuyo, and the perception of the Inca Empire nowadays. So for me, it would be much better than you, instead of erasing the whole information, edit and insert the information needed in another paragraph. In fact, I do like this article, and of course I'm trying to improve it, bad news is I don't have anough time now to do it. Remember that the fact that you don't understand something, doesn't mean anyone else isn't going to understand too. Again, you can ask first (maybe to the person who wrote it) and I'm pretty sure he or she may will be more than welcome to help you. (By the way, I didn't understand your last quotation, what do you mean?) --Evelyn Zuñiga 22:49, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


 * That article gets vandalized all the time, so I understand why you might have automatically reverted things. But that's why I always include comments on my edits.  This one said "Removed redundant and unclear paragraphs from beginning, as well as some minor vandalism. More work needed: see talk page."  I'm afraid it seems rather disrespectful to not check the comments, not check the talk page, and simply remove someone else's changes.  Please note that I also took the trouble to contact you instead of reverting your change.


 * But we're all here to make good articles. If you read the paragraph you'll see that all but the last sentence duplicate information that is already present in the previous paragraphs: the location, the capital, the time span, the extent, the title of the ruler.  The last sentences do try to add some new information, but not very well; that's why I suggested on the talk page that the introduction needs some work, and I supplied a possible model from another Wikipedia.  Of course, you don't have to work on this if you have no time, but no one else can, either, if you simply revert any changes.Zompist 19:31, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Amazonas Region; "Paso de Porculla"
Hey Evelyn. I've noticed you're contributions to Peruvian-related articles and was about to ask you to join the Peruvian collaboration effort, but then I noticed you had made it there already, lol. My attention was centered around the Amazon Region and you're contributions there concerning el "Paso de Porculla". I was planning on taking a trip there ...to the Amazon region of my country (though I'm not too sure when lol). Anyways, that section of the article seems to look a bit more like a travel information guide than an encyclopedic paragraph (don't take it the wrong way.. its just a constructive thought of mines :). I corrected some sentences and their structure and various typos and also removed some repetitive links to improve its overall appearance. Some of the information is quite vague and needs further development especially on "reaching the summit of the Andes". For a moment I thought you were tour guide since you seem to write in that sense, but then I realized you might know the region very well and have had the luck to travel around that part of our native and majestic country.. and now describe it to outsiders in fine detail. I was wondering if you had any images?? If I make it there some day, will sure take some good pics and upload them! Congrats again!! --Dynamax 17:35, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Dynamax, Thank you for fixing my article. I just want to improve a little bit the external image of my country (Peru). I've been lucky to have the chance to visit some departments in Peru, and I try to write from what I lived, from my own experience. And if there's something missing, then I tried to document myself about it and write also. Unluckily, I do not have many pictures about my trips, I mean I do have pictures, but according to Wikipedia rules, It's better if you upload pictures with no people on them, just the landscape =( . I'm new here at Wikipedia, and my travels were before I discover this wonderful and useful encyclopedia, but I promise next time I will take more pictures of landscapes, (more than my family, friends or me) and upload them. Thanks one more time. --Evelyn Zuñiga 18:36, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Hello Evelyn Z. I was looking for an article on Abra de Porculla and found that the article on Paso de Porculla had been deleted because of copyright violations. I've created a new article Abra de Porculla which Paso de Porculla redirects to. If you have any additional information that would be worth incorporating in the Abra de Porculla I hope you'll add it. I can check the English if you want me to. Incidentally is the pass in Lambayeque or in Piura, or is it in both? Opbeith (talk) 14:15, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Chachapoyas
Hola Evelyn, I have followed your work on the Chachapoyas and would like to say you have made some very important contributions. I have helped edit a few of them and will help more with the language when I find the time (I have a minor point to start with - since Chachapoyas is a proper name, it should be written with a capital 'C').

Myself, I have a strong interest in the archaeology and culture of the Chachapoyas and I have been on an expedition to the region with Dr. Peter Lerche.

A question - do you have documentation that links Chachapoyan religion and culture to the Tihuanaco/Huari? I was under the impression that the few linguistic tidbits we have link it to Chibcha (which extended from Colombia northwards) and the ceramics has similarities with that of cultures in the lower Amazon. Perhaps the Chachapoyas, unique as they were, were a synthesis of elements of Andean and Amazonian cultures. Do you know of any DNA studies on mummies, living populations etc?

Gracias y que te vaya bien. -Tom

Twalls 19:10, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi Tom, thanks for your words. I just try to do my best to make my country known abroad. All the things that we have here are wonderful and what a better way to show them to the world through here =). Regarding the Chachapoyas (you are right in the Capital letter correction), I have some information that link - as some parts of my articles says - The Chachapoyas culture with the Tiahuanaco-Huari. I'm trying to get the most important points of those researches and put them in. I haven't heard about the relation with the Chibchas, but I'm pretty sure I can figure it out and let you know asap.

It's so wonderful that you have the chance to be in an expedition. I'm pretty sure you might have tons of pictures. If it is not too much to ask... Do you think you can upload some of them in the articles??? That will really be awesome!!!

Gracias, --Evelyn Zuñiga 03:54, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Editing
Please stop reposting the same contents under multiple titles and locations. Articles only need broken up when they become to long. There is no benefit gained from having to re-edit the same text in multiple locations. Also only make links relevant to the context and only link once to each term - not every occurance of a term. Rmhermen 15:58, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I realized I did that mistake before. That's why I correct the Amazonas Region article, erasing some data and putting some links to other articles. Just by any chance, have you look at them before writing this messages? If you did, can you please put me some other example where you think the information have been repeated and innecesary?? --Evelyn Zuñiga 05:51, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Category:Public holidays in Peru
How about we rename it Category:Holidays in Peru, which was also one of the proposed options? Kimchi.sg 23:45, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure about the connotation of the word "Holiday". If Holiday doesn't mean that is a day off from work for everyone in the country, then it's more than perfect. If it does mean that, then it's a better choice than the first one, at least until we find a better choice. Thanks. --Evelyn Zuñiga 19:17, 9 December 2006 (UTC)


 * No, holiday doesn't imply that everyone takes a day off... I'll rename it to "Holidays in Peru" then. Kimchi.sg 01:52, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Your comments on my talkpage
Glad you liked my rating on the Amazonas Region article, and cuz you did a great contribution there check this.


 * Yeah, just went over it. Nice work on that, keep it up.--Jersey Devil 05:03, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Wow!!! I wasn't expected an award... But thanks a lot!!!! =) --Evelyn Zuñiga 15:21, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Suggestions/Questions on recent changes to articles on Provinces in Peru
Hi Evelyn,... Great to see i'm not the only one to add new articles and supplementing existing ones on the provinces of Peru. Well done! Some questions though: Why remove the recent articles from the Category:Provinces of Peru? All other provinces are still part of this category.

Some technical advise: the height:200px; on the district wiki tables in the province pages in not needed, it stretches tables with few lines to always use 200px which makes them too tall and look strange.

As per Wikipedia:Verifiability i try to use references to cite where the information i add originates from. Even though most of the times external links and references are the same, namely the www.munixxx.gob.pe web site i think it's good practice the incorporate both sections, so please don't remove them from the articles.

Just to be curious: why the different colours for the district tables per province? Is there any colour scheme you are using?

I hope i'm not being too blunt Ericbronder 21:17, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi Ericbronder,

I'm a little bit confused about your message. What do you mean I remove articles from the Category: provinces of Peru?? I'm not sure if this woul be the answer, when I fix the Amazonas article, I was putting sub categories under the catrgory you are mentioning, but someone else correct it with a new template. So that is why I try to keep that format. Let me know if I'm mistaken.

Thanks about the tip of height, I didn't know quite well how to make tables, so I just copy one from another article and it seemed to work (I mean nobody quoted as you did so if you can help me fix it, it will be very well appreciated).

Now the reference link I've been erasing is because the previos articles I'm changing from the provinces of the Ancash have been empty. I mean the subtitles were in there but no reference added, so I just take it out. However if I figured out the official web pages of these regions, I'll put them in (as I did in the Amazonas Region article). So thanks for the advise =)

--Evelyn Zuñiga 21:41, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Some thought about restyling all the Province articles
Evelyn, Hi again...

The line i was missing after your edit was: But it's OK now, i changed the template, so for the Ancash region there is no need to add this line again, saves a lot of time.

There is still a challenge for us to keep all the XXXXX Province articles in the same style, most of them use a style different from the one you are using. The Amazonas and Ancash Region now look the same, maybe we can come up with a style we can use, a "Best of both worlds"... There already is a lot of info on other Province articles!

for example opening line of article: The Casma Province is one of 20 provinces of the Ancash Region in Peru. or The Casma Province (Spanish: Provincia de Casma) is one of 20 provinces of the Ancash Region of Peru.

for example Section title for subdivision in districts Administrative division or Political Division ???

Do or don't: section for Capital / Location / Boundaries etc. etc. ??? Got any suggestions?

Something else: It's ok to alter articles but don't just remove data like the map showing the districts of the Huaylas Province. It's there to show the location of the districts within the province, so if it doesn't fit the style we are using anymore, please, reposition it on the page or add a line to the talk page of the article or some other user.

happy editing :-) Ericbronder 22:38, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about the image, you are completely right. It just slip from my eyes the picture that was there before.

I do agree about having the same style in all the articles of the Peruvian provinces.


 * I don't think is necessary to put the equivalent in Spanish for the opening line. That will be because other articles regarding provinces of other countries do not use it, but even most important is that most of time the reference of the article in Spanish do not have any kind of information in them.


 * Now I am not pretty sure about the diference between Administrative or Political division. So if you can explain to me the diference between both maybe we can arrive to a conclusion. For me it was very common to talk about Political Division but I am open to any new information about the topic.


 * I do not agree with the Capital subtitle, because this should be included in the first part of the article, next to the opening. The problem is that we have to be very sure of which district to put as the capital. For instance check this page: http://sigod.cnd.gob.pe/. This is a page kept by the Peruvian government but there are others that do not agree with the capital that here is established. Worst! some of these Provinces do not have its own web page so there is not a chance to re-check them. That's why I prefer to omit them until someone else (or myself) are sure about them.


 * The location subtitle is perfect. Inside of it we should include the boundaries. =)

Any other advices, please let me know. --Evelyn Zuñiga 23:36, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Some technical advise on References
Evelyn... Please do not just simply remove the references sections. The following code: ==References== is NOT an empty section. It means the section will be automatically filled with information from the article, namely everything between. I have reinserted the sections in some of the articles for the provinces in Ancash. Ericbronder 23:24, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok. I will keep them on. =) --Evelyn Zuñiga 23:37, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Disambiguation vs. Redirecting
Hi Evelyn. Take a look at the way the Ocros disambiguation is now handled. This is the preferred way and friendlier in use then to just redirect Ocros to Ocros Province. Involved pages:
 * Ocros, created as a stub for the town Ocros, add a dablink line as first line and point to Ocros (disambiguation)
 * Ocros (disambiguation), page with a list of all the Ocros articles, including links to that articles. This page also uses the disambig template.

Please let me know if you have any further questions... Ericbronder 17:39, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi Eric (I hope that's your name),

Thank you for the tip about creating those articles. Actually they are very helpful and more accurate than the way I was doing them. =)--Evelyn Zuñiga 17:20, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Ancash Region
Olah!

You obviously have a concern that the Ancash Region article be fair and accurate. However, there were major problems here with the English prose, readability, and suitability of the article as a Wikipedia entry. After you read WP:OWN, I would like to discuss with you at Talk:Ancash Region how we can collaborate to make this article better. As a native speaker of English trying to learn another language (German) in a foreign country (Austria), I certainly appreciate your efforts to write in a second (third?) language. (I even have [difficulties with my own language! :)  So I hope you will view my edits not as an attempt to insult your efforts, but instead as an opportunity to become increasingly proficient. --Otheus 12:35, 6 April 2007 (UTC)


 * My concern doesn't have to be only with that article, but with all the Peruvian articles in Wikipedia. I do not think that the "improvement" (regarding information) that I'm doing to them is extremely wrong. I may have (and actually do) some mistakes because as you said, being able to speak another language in a fluent way, is very difficult to do. However, I do not see with bad eyes any of yours (or any one else) edit as wrong. I'm very thanksful actually. But I would prefer for you to edit them, or tell me to do it, instead of erasing information that I may consider important. As an article is not only one person cooncern, but a lot of people, then you may also try to talk to the members of the Peruvian Portal wikipedia project, and if they that information is irrelevant, I do not have any proble to erase it myself. Thanks. --Evelyn Zuñiga 20:43, 6 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Good. Then, let's continue to work constructively on the Talk page. Though I reverted to my version, I then added portions you had put back in (I must have erred in removing them, originally, or they had already been removed). Let's continue this on Talk:Ancash Region page. IGF, --Otheus 21:42, 6 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Very good changes! I made some changes to that as well -- first see my comments on the talk page. Or click here. :) --Otheus

Independence of Peru
Hello, I've come across you recent revert in the Independence of Peru article, in which you argue that all the information in the article about Peruvian History since independence until the 1990s is relevant for it. Actually, since the article's name is Independence of Peru, the rest of the Peruvian Republic history is not relevant for it, it should be posted in the proper articles, for example: History of Peru or History of the Republic of Peru. Please don't post it back on the Independence of Peru article. Greetings, --Victor12 00:09, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Purtumute
Hi. The revision to Purtumute are to remove what appears to be original research. If you can attribute these claims to reliable sources, they should stay. Only then can their relevance be assessed (and they are no doubt relevant).- Tiswas (t/c) 15:32, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Ancash Region Proofing
Hi Evelyn, I've nearly finished proofreading Ancash Region, which I very much enjoyed. However, it's getting late in the evening, and my brain is nearly fried. I must stop. I will look again at the article tomorrow. I made quite a few minor changes to syntax, made one more serious change to one sentence in the History section, and added a bunch of templates that convert metric distances to English so that both appear side-by-side in the text. I hope I have not messed anything up or introduced any kind of error. If you could take a look and let me know what you think of my changes, I'd appreciate it. Also, I notice that someone else added several "citation needed" templates to the article, and I added two more, as I recall. I personally find attribution extremely important. If you want to add some attribution, which will appear in the Reference section (which does not now exist), I'd be happy to show you how the reference stuff works. You'd need to supply the data (the who, what, where, when of the citation), and I could fit it into the format and show you what I'm doing. A good example of what I'm talking about would be the Tello quote. Readers will want to know where (what book or journal or web page) it came from, who wrote or said it, when it was published, and by whom. Anyway, if pursuing the references interests you, just let me know. Finetooth 04:38, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I just read. Thank you so much for improving the article. I didn't write all the article, so some of the citations you are talking about, I may not have, but others I do. I'll give myself sometime to send them to you. The article is much more understable now. As much as I tried to make it sound natural, it's not the same as if it is written by a native speaker. Anyway I'll continue doing my best. Thanks again. --Evelyn Zuñiga 16:36, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi Evelyn, The citation material was helpful. I added a Reference section and a reference template to the bottom of the Ancash Region page. It's the Reflist|1 inside of double curly braces. The number 1 is for a one-column list; you could change it to 2 to make a two-column list if you preferred. After that, I used the information you gave me to find the source pages and to create the references. For example, immediately after the period ending the sentence ". . . top fishing port of the world," I entered the reference information you gave me and some mark-up code. (You'll have to visit the Ancash page to see exactly what I mean because if I put the whole code here, it becomes unreadable.) After I saved the page, Wikipedia software associated with the template put the correct superscript number into the text immediately after the sentence ". . . top fishing port of the world" and put the reference information in the correct place in the Reference section.

The software is really nice because if someone later adds more references anywhere in the article, the software automatically re-numbers the notes correctly and puts everything in the proper order in the Reference section.

Working in two languages is more complicated than working in one. I suppose most readers of the article will not actually be able to check every reference unless the readers are bi-lingual. Your English is strong, and my Spanish is weak but better than nothing.

I am done proofing this article. It was fun. Finetooth 04:14, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Copyright problems
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However, for textual content, you may simply consider rewriting the content in your own words. Thank you. Victor12 (talk) 03:49, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi Victor12. This brief message is to let you know that the article we are talking about is not whatsoever a copy or violation to any other article. I read some books on Peruvian Geography to add some more information on my trip and studies to the Amazon region. Seems to me that the page you are actually citating, did the same thing. That happened to me already before, once they tried to erase a page I've written without noticing that the web page they were talking about actually read wikipedia information before posting those articles into the web, so it was the other way around. Please do the research you actually have to do before deleting any article without previous noticing. Thanks, --Evelyn Zuñiga 22:50, 28 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but it is extremely unlikely that two authors (the webpage author and you) can write an identical text independently. My reasoning for this article being a copyright violation is that the webpage text is written in correct Spanish whereas your text is written in an awkward English that follows the original Spanish grammar and forms of expression word for word. Thus, it is likely that your text was translated from the Spanish original, probably using an on-line translator. Furthermore, the website's copyright is from 2005 while your Wikipedia entry was written in 2006. See, I did my research. Greetings, --Victor12 (talk) 00:02, 29 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, thanks for your answer, but I'm not used to use any kind of online translation. But maybe I can prove you that is not a copyright, if you see that text of the web page in Spanish you'll see that is not only in one, but more than one. So, the information was taken from a geography book (as I already said), in their case taken exactly, in mine, just making a brief summary so I can complete the information I already have. Instead of erasing or deleting it, I would prefer if you give me the chance to do some changes in the parts of the article that you feel sound as copyright violation. Thanks, --Evelyn Zuñiga 00:18, 29 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Translating a text book verbatim is also a copyright violation. Plus, the website in question has a clear copyright notice, so you cannot use an identical text at Wikipedia, see Copyright violations. Now if you think the article has been wrongfully deleted you can can make your case at Deletion review. --Victor12 (talk) 01:13, 29 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll do. Thanks for the answer. --Evelyn Zuñiga 01:55, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

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Cañón del Pato
Hi, I'm wondering why you've added information about the Cordillera Huayhuash to the Cañón del Pato article - The Cordillera Huayhuash is a long way from the Cañón del Pato, and seems to have little relevance, especially descriptions of lakes in the cordillera. Of much more use would be information about the part of the Cordillera Negra through which the canyon travels. --Ozhiker (talk) 12:58, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I'm not so sure if you are right. Up to what I know, The Cañón del Pato is part of the Cordillera Huayhuash. However if you think this information is more useful being inside the Cordillera Negra article, be free to paste it there. --Evelyn Zuñiga 04:27, 2 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Perhaps there is more than one place named "Cañón del Pato". The one I know of is the main route from Trujillo to Caraz, and is about 140 miles from the Cordillera Huayhuash - see this map: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=2535427 --Ozhiker (talk) 01:10, 4 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah. It's the same one. So, taking this map as an evidence, I guess you are right and it would be much better to move the Cordillera Huayhuash article as part of the Cordillera Negra. Thanks for clearing me things up =) --Evelyn Zuñiga 03:31, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Manuel Antonio Mesones Muro
Hello Evelyn Z

I hope you don't mind but I've been rewording your original text at the article about Manuel Antonio Mesones Muro to bring it closer to native English. I hope I haven't affected the sense. If you're still active at Wikipedia I'd be grateful if you could have a look and check whether I've caused any damage to the orginal. Also I have some specific queries - I've noted a couple on the article talk page Talk:Manuel Antonio Mesones Muro. Opbeith (talk) 14:06, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Carne arrollada
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